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Posted October 01, 2015
FPS Immortals are here.

Quake II: Quad Damage, Quake III: Gold, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny - are available now, DRM-free on GOG.com. You can pick them up at 33% off in two bundles:
<span class="bold">Quake Damage</span> & <span class="bold">Return to Wolfenstein</span>.





Wolfenstein 3D (with Spear of Destiny) is widely considered to be the first true 3D FPS ever. It single handedly kickstarted a generation of id Software greats, and thus influenced just about every FPS we've played ever since. Its mazes, shades of gray, and blue hues are burned into the collective gaming memory - plus you get to kill a mechanized Hitler. Classic.
In the early days of FPS gaming, Quake II: Quad Damage was the milestone. In a spot-on review from 1997, GameSpot calls it "the only first-person shooter to render the original Quake entirely obsolete." It was bigger, better, prettier, and smoother than any clone or predecessor - it also offered one of the most playable, and by far most popular multiplayer experiences of its day.
Quake III: Gold, aka. multiplayer revolution. Despite a controversial removal of the lauded single-player experience the series was known for, Quake III: Arena became a smash-hit and (together with Unreal Tournament) essentially defined arena-style, movement-based competitive gaming for years. The shooter spawned a community that's been living and breathing to this day.
In B.J. Blazkowicz's Return to Castle Wolfenstein, another legend is born. A unique, objective-based multiplayer mode saw immense popularity back in the day - and it was actually pretty okay if you're into that sort of thing. The single-player campaign is a dark, somewhat ridiculous freak show of morbid, scientific fantasy. An ever present sense of dread emanates from the disturbing experiments and cult-like universe, just waiting to be set afire - by you.


As with any Bethesda purchase, you'll also get The Elder Scrolls: Arena & Daggerfall for free!


Prepare to fight in Quake II: Quad Damage, Quake III: Gold, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny - now DRM-free on GOG.com. Return to the FPS immortals at 33% off in two bundles: <span class="bold">Quake Damage</span> & <span class="bold">Return to Wolfenstein</span>. The promo will last for one week, until October 8, 12:59 PM GMT.



The four titles released today are not available for purchase in Germany. These are legal restrictions that are beyond our control, and we're very sorry for the inconvenience.
Posted October 02, 2015
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Sok4R: Nope. Nothing on the front page and the search does also not show them. Its like they aren't even their, so I can understand the 404 from a technical standpoint, but other customers might get confused as they can see the news and the forums.
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Smannesman: Too bad, it would've been funnier if they'd been like "Look at these new games!" and then you click on them and it's like "No, not for you!". But they definitely should have a "This product is not available for your region" page.
Another GOG fail.
Or a meme. You want game? Y u no move?
Posted October 02, 2015
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hedwards: Or a meme. You want game? Y u no move?
GOGBear memes?
"Why you on wrong side of world?"
"Much region lock this side of world!"
Posted October 02, 2015
"the only first-person shooter to render the original Quake entirely obsolete."
Who actually believes this? Quake 1's SP campaign is superior in every to Quake 2's.
Posted October 02, 2015
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Konrad: Hey guys,
It probably doesn't need to be said, but if it was only up to us - we'd love to release these games worldwide. In this particular case, the games' publisher is forbidden from offering the titles to German customers, and we have to respect these limitations.

Still, we did not want to refuse the games altogether, simply because we felt this would be unfair to gamers from all remaining 190+ countries.
This is bullshit. A publisher should't have too much power at GOG. Either you publish a game everywhere where it's possible by law or nowhere.
Just a few questions:
- when do we get regionlock in installers?
- when do we need to be only while playing SP to secure that we don't play in GER (like in Wolfenstein TNO)?
- when do we need to activate games?
- when do we need Galaxy even fpr SP (for MP it's already needed)?
All these things MUST come in near future, especially for Bethesda games.


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Impaler26: More regionally-locked games on GOG... Screw this! :(
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JudasIscariot: I am sorry but this is required by law.
No, not for Q2/3.
Post edited October 02, 2015 by classic-gamer
Posted October 02, 2015
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JudasIscariot: I am sorry but this is required by law.
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classic-gamer: No, not for Q2/3.
I tried to find information about this but couldn't find any saying that they are not on the Liste der indizierten Spiele anymore. Do you have a link?
Posted October 02, 2015
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classic-gamer: No, not for Q2/3.
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Piranjade: I tried to find information about this but couldn't find any saying that they are not on the Liste der indizierten Spiele anymore. Do you have a link?
They are still "Indexed". But that does not mean you are not allowed to sell or buy them. Just make sure the customer is aged 18 or above.
Posted October 02, 2015
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Piranjade: I tried to find information about this but couldn't find any saying that they are not on the Liste der indizierten Spiele anymore. Do you have a link?
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DarthKant: They are still "Indexed". But that does not mean you are not allowed to sell or buy them. Just make sure the customer is aged 18 or above.
That means that GOG won't be able to do it. The hurdles to be allowed to do that are extremely high, as outlined in this article:
http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html
(especially part V.)
And yes, GOG as a distributor targeting a German audience has to comply with these rules.
Posted October 02, 2015
I'll just buy Quake 2 because Q3 price is absolutely crazy
Posted October 02, 2015
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DarthKant: They are still "Indexed". But that does not mean you are not allowed to sell or buy them. Just make sure the customer is aged 18 or above.
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Piranjade: That means that GOG won't be able to do it. The hurdles to be allowed to do that are extremely high, as outlined in this article:
http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html
(especially part V.)
And yes, GOG as a distributor targeting a German audience has to comply with these rules.
You realized that this IT-Recht-Kanzlei is based in Munich / Bavaria, right? That's the most conservative bunch of lunatics in Germany.
Posted October 02, 2015
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Grargar: Hmmm, I wonder if the Wolfenstein games are regionally-locked for Germans...
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JudasIscariot: Unfortunately, they are :(
Nooooooooooooo :O =(

But I am over 18. So no way for us to get it legally through GOG?

And what if we use some proxy?
Post edited October 02, 2015 by DanielRuf
Posted October 02, 2015
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Konrad: Hey guys,
It probably doesn't need to be said, but if it was only up to us - we'd love to release these games worldwide. In this particular case, the games' publisher is forbidden from offering the titles to German customers, and we have to respect these limitations.

Still, we did not want to refuse the games altogether, simply because we felt this would be unfair to gamers from all remaining 190+ countries.
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viperfdl: In other words: Bethesda/Zenimax commands:"Jump!" and gog.com asks:"How high?"...
No, it means German government says "No!" and Zenimax and GoG have to comply or else there will be angry German lawyers on there backs.
Posted October 02, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Unfortunately, they are :(
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DanielRuf: Nooooooooooooo :O =(
Well it makes sense, after all "Nothing bad happened. Sie werden sich hinsetzen. Sie werden ruhig sein. Sie werden nicht beleidigen Deutschland."
Posted October 02, 2015
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DanielRuf: Nooooooooooooo :O =(
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Smannesman: Well it makes sense, after all "Nothing bad happened. Sie werden sich hinsetzen. Sie werden ruhig sein. Sie werden nicht beleidigen Deutschland."
But Quake 1 was removed from the index.

The media industry here is weird, also USK / FSK and the people behind the index.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Spiele-Thema-239104/Specials/Indizierte-Spiele-Liste-1025645/
Post edited October 02, 2015 by DanielRuf
Posted October 02, 2015
It finally happened! YESSS!!! Thanks guys! :D
Posted October 02, 2015
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Piranjade: That means that GOG won't be able to do it. The hurdles to be allowed to do that are extremely high, as outlined in this article:
http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html
(especially part V.)
And yes, GOG as a distributor targeting a German audience has to comply with these rules.
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viperfdl: You realized that this IT-Recht-Kanzlei is based in Munich / Bavaria, right? That's the most conservative bunch of lunatics in Germany.
It doesn't make the article less true.
Also for law the perceived distinction between the conservative south and progressive north doesn't really work. Best example are the decisions of a certain judge in Hamburg concerning internet issues.
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