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Posted October 11, 2018
Lady Aribeth, you'll never walk alone.

Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition is now available DRM-free, 25% off until October 18th 1pm UTC. Neverwinter Nights Diamond is now included in the Enhanced Edition as a free bonus goodie. Current owners of Diamond get an additional 25% off when purchasing the Enhanced Edition.

The D&N epic returns, now with subtle graphical improvements and a completely rebuilt multiplayer system, backwards compatible with all the mods, modules, and save games you were using in the original.

Get the Digital Deluxe Edition which includes several adventure modules, the game's Soundtrack and the Heroes of Neverwinter pack or grab each of them separately.
Posted October 13, 2018
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Mobeeuz: The only thing I've proven is that you had no argument to begin with... Cheers.
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takezodunmer2005: That was the entire point!

As you were the only one starting an argument over an issue I had already resolved for myself in my original post!
Next time, put your edit *after* the original post. o.O
Posted October 13, 2018
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takezodunmer2005: That was the entire point!

As you were the only one starting an argument over an issue I had already resolved for myself in my original post!
Your resolution didn't exist when I first posted. Instead of just admitting you were wrong, you attacked my response.
Posted October 13, 2018
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What the HELL!? I just bought the EEdition and NOW you release the DDEdition a day later!? I would have bought this version over the EEdition but now, I have to spend double in order to get this version! Why not discount it to $10 for those who were duped in buying the EE version!?

Dick move beamdog, for not even allowing for an upgrade path...
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My mistake, I logged out and can see my discount for $10, the amount that I originally paid; leaving my original post as I hate it when people delete and re-edits their posts!

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If gog had better markup I could have used strike-out to get better illustrate this, but instead I used italics and put it on the bottom due to people reading top-to-bottom, I'll switch it next time...
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takezodunmer2005: That was the entire point!

As you were the only one starting an argument over an issue I had already resolved for myself in my original post!
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richlind33: Of course, it didn't, I edited it in when I found out that I had the discount, and after which you conveniently "snipped" out that part when you responded...

Next time, put your edit *after* the original post. o.O
Screwed up the quote system, I'll try a new post!
Post edited October 13, 2018 by takezodunmer2005
Posted October 13, 2018
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takezodunmer2005: That was the entire point!

As you were the only one starting an argument over an issue I had already resolved for myself in my original post!
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Mobeeuz: Your resolution didn't exist when I first posted. Instead of just admitting you were wrong, you attacked my response.
Of course, it didn't, I edited it in when I found out that I had the discount, and after which you conveniently "snipped" out that part when you responded...
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There, much better! : )
Posted October 13, 2018
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Mobeeuz: Your resolution didn't exist when I first posted. Instead of just admitting you were wrong, you attacked my response.
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takezodunmer2005: Of course, it didn't, I edited it in when I found out that I had the discount, and after which you conveniently "snipped" out that part when you responded...
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There, much better! : )
Honestly I read your original post (before edits) and thought it was humor. I found it amusing. I guess that was not the intent.
Posted October 13, 2018
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After seeing this, I installed NWN1 Diamond, and played a few minutes. It displayed correctly for me at 1080p and ultrawide. The graphical enhancements don't really do that much in my opinion, and I do not use 4k res. The EE is not worth it for me.

So I looked at the deluxe version with all expansions that I never heard of before. Don't care about sound tracks, which leaves 4 expansions (3 @ $3 and 1 @ $10) for $20, plus base EE version. Still trying to decide if that is worth it or not. Kind of leaning no, because they didn't really improve camera, gameplay, or interface from what I have read.
Posted October 13, 2018
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qwixter: After seeing this, I installed NWN1 Diamond, and played a few minutes. It displayed correctly for me at 1080p and ultrawide. The graphical enhancements don't really do that much in my opinion, and I do not use 4k res. The EE is not worth it for me.
Most old 3D games (the UI!) look fine if you have a low dpi screen.
Posted October 15, 2018
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qwixter: After seeing this, I installed NWN1 Diamond, and played a few minutes. It displayed correctly for me at 1080p and ultrawide. The graphical enhancements don't really do that much in my opinion, and I do not use 4k res. The EE is not worth it for me.

So I looked at the deluxe version with all expansions that I never heard of before. Don't care about sound tracks, which leaves 4 expansions (3 @ $3 and 1 @ $10) for $20, plus base EE version. Still trying to decide if that is worth it or not. Kind of leaning no, because they didn't really improve camera, gameplay, or interface from what I have read.
Those expansions can all be gotten for free online at the neverwintervault. Bioware released the files for the premium modules for free online a while ago and they shut off the authentication servers for them so as far as i know even if you bought them before you wouldn't be able to authenticate them through normal means anyways. So you'll have to use the offline authenticator that someone made.
Posted October 15, 2018
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Loger13: Yeap, really. They sell it (because they take money for it). They MUST support, what they sell.
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paladin181: Sure. You tell yourself that. Rage, rage against the dying of the light. But remember that the game costs the same on Steam and has no classic version there, and it is therefore a free bonus, not something they are charging for.
Besides, how many devs don't support anything they've released here? Saying they must because you deem it so holds no weight whatsoever.
The game still exists in the libraries of everyone who bought it, so it' should still be supported as its own game.
Posted October 15, 2018
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Point_Man: Those expansions can all be gotten for free online at the neverwintervault. Bioware released the files for the premium modules for free online a while ago and they shut off the authentication servers for them so as far as i know even if you bought them before you wouldn't be able to authenticate them through normal means anyways. So you'll have to use the offline authenticator that someone made.
Incidentally, that someone made a post here, in order to clarify some things.
Posted October 15, 2018
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Point_Man: Those expansions can all be gotten for free online at the neverwintervault. Bioware released the files for the premium modules for free online a while ago and they shut off the authentication servers for them so as far as i know even if you bought them before you wouldn't be able to authenticate them through normal means anyways. So you'll have to use the offline authenticator that someone made.
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Leroux: Incidentally, that someone made a post here, in order to clarify some things.
Interesting read. Hope you're not implying i did what that post said some people were doing. Never said anything about how Beamdog shouldn't be selling them. The poster i replied to implied they didn't think the EE was worth buying. As far as i know you can't buy the DLCs for the EE to use with the Diamond Edition without buying the EE. So their only other option is to download the modules for the Diamond Edition and use the offline authenticator.
Posted October 15, 2018
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Leroux: Incidentally, that someone made a post here, in order to clarify some things.
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Point_Man: Interesting read. Hope you're not implying i did what that post said some people were doing. Never said anything about how Beamdog shouldn't be selling them. The poster i replied to implied they didn't think the EE was worth buying. As far as i know you can't buy the DLCs for the EE to use with the Diamond Edition without buying the EE. So their only other option is to download the modules for the Diamond Edition and use the offline authenticator.
Got it. I wasn't impliyng any pro or contra stance towards Beamdog on your part, I just wanted to clarify that Bioware did not officially release the modules for free, since your post could be interpreted that way, regardless of your intent, and that's a common misconception that keeps spreading.
Posted October 15, 2018
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Point_Man: Interesting read. Hope you're not implying i did what that post said some people were doing. Never said anything about how Beamdog shouldn't be selling them. The poster i replied to implied they didn't think the EE was worth buying. As far as i know you can't buy the DLCs for the EE to use with the Diamond Edition without buying the EE. So their only other option is to download the modules for the Diamond Edition and use the offline authenticator.
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Leroux: Got it. I wasn't impliyng any pro or contra stance towards Beamdog on your part, I just wanted to clarify that Bioware did not officially release the modules for free, since your post could be interpreted that way, regardless of your intent, and that's a common misconception that keeps spreading.
I guess i can see how it can be interpreted that way. They released the modules themselves online for free like i said but they never removed the DRM. As far as i know, that also means when they shut down the authentication servers without doing that they also fucked over all the people who legitimately bought them. So it seems like that offline authenticator is necessary even for people who actually payed for them. Correct me if i'm wrong, but there's no way to pay for them if you only just recently got NWN Diamond from GOG for example, or from a used physical copy. Unless you buy the EE from Beamdog of course. Bioware & the publisher also didn't seem to care about fucking over those who actually payed them for that content, so make of that what you will.
Posted October 15, 2018
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Point_Man: I guess i can see how it can be interpreted that way. They released the modules themselves online for free like i said but they never removed the DRM. As far as i know, that also means when they shut down the authentication servers without doing that they also fucked over all the people who legitimately bought them. So it seems like that offline authenticator is necessary even for people who actually payed for them. Correct me if i'm wrong, but there's no way to pay for them if you only just recently got NWN Diamond from GOG for example, or from a used physical copy. Unless you buy the EE from Beamdog of course. Bioware & the publisher also didn't seem to care about fucking over those who actually payed them for that content, so make of that what you will.
They had always provided download links to the modules on their website, meant as backup service for the original customers, so it wasn't really a free release. And you're right, they never did anything official to help rightful owners after the authentification servers went down. That's what's most likely to happen with any DRM-infested software eventually. You can't rely on the companies for fixing issues like that, just because it would be the right thing to do. It's possibe that Bioware wouldn't have been able to do anything about it even if they wanted to, because it was either unclear who had the rights to the premium modules or they were owned by Atari and Bioware wasn't working with Atari any more at the time. I guess that's why they silently tolerated the offline authentificator and free distribution of the mods in the NWN community.

Don't get me wrong, personally I have no problem with people downloading abandonware, when it's not available for sale anymore (like the premium modules for use with the Diamond Edition), least of all if they originally paid for the games. It just bothers me if abandonware is misunderstood and passed off as legal freeware (not referring to you here).
Post edited October 15, 2018 by Leroux
Posted October 15, 2018
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Leroux: It just bothers me if abandonware is misunderstood and passed off as legal freeware (not referring to you here).
Ya i agree that kinda bothers me as well when i see it.

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Leroux: That's what's most likely to happen with any DRM-infested software eventually. You can't rely on the companies for fixing issues like that, just because it would be the right thing to do.
This reminds me of that Steam support quote that's always being passed around. People actually think if Valve goes under they will release some sort of update to remove DRM off of all the Steam games people have. Do they even have the legal right to do that? I don't think publishers would be okay with Valve removing all DRM from all games on Steam even if they went under. Also, i assume they meant Steam DRM, because games with an extra layer of DRM like Denuvo are screwed unless you download a crack.
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