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Posted October 11, 2018
Lady Aribeth, you'll never walk alone.

Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition is now available DRM-free, 25% off until October 18th 1pm UTC. Neverwinter Nights Diamond is now included in the Enhanced Edition as a free bonus goodie. Current owners of Diamond get an additional 25% off when purchasing the Enhanced Edition.

The D&N epic returns, now with subtle graphical improvements and a completely rebuilt multiplayer system, backwards compatible with all the mods, modules, and save games you were using in the original.

Get the Digital Deluxe Edition which includes several adventure modules, the game's Soundtrack and the Heroes of Neverwinter pack or grab each of them separately.
Posted October 12, 2018
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Matewis: I tend to stay away from fan-created content because I'm deathly afraid of the cringe :P
I probably cringed more during the official campaign than during any of the dozens of fan-created modules I played through combined. You don't really have to fish for the good ones, just ask or browse threads like this one.
Posted October 12, 2018
I'm installing now! Maybe we should have a treasure hunt in this thing soon
Posted October 13, 2018
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gozer: In the end, anyone interested just in the original is forced to pay extra for product they don't want nor need.
This argument is absurd, no matter how many people sing its verses...

If you didn't already buy NWN then face it, you weren't going to. It was never going to be a giveaway, and would never hit that magic 99¢ price point you were willing to pay.

Technically NWN is exactly the same price it was: $10 for the original, $10 for the Enhanced Edition = $20.

Why anyone would choose to waste time hacking together a compatible version over downloading something ready-to-go requires a clinician...
Posted October 13, 2018
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gozer: In the end, anyone interested just in the original is forced to pay extra for product they don't want nor need.
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Mobeeuz: This argument is absurd, no matter how many people sing its verses...

If you didn't already buy NWN then face it, you weren't going to. It was never going to be a giveaway, and would never hit that magic 99¢ price point you were willing to pay.

Technically NWN is exactly the same price it was: $10 for the original, $10 for the Enhanced Edition = $20.

Why anyone would choose to waste time hacking together a compatible version over downloading something ready-to-go requires a clinician...
It actually was s giveaway at some point. And a bonus for s pre-order once, too.
Posted October 13, 2018
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Tallima: It actually was s giveaway at some point. And a bonus for s pre-order once, too.
I stand corrected, there is NO reason for this argument...
Posted October 13, 2018
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Ganni1987: The game is Linux native (no wrappers / Wine etc) and comes with a 32bit binary.
How can you release a game in 2018 without a 64-bit version? At least for Debian 64-bit installations have outnumbered 32-bit installations already 5 or 6 years ago. Oh, and looking at the system compatibility, Fedora 21, Debian 8? This is sooo 2018... ;P
Post edited October 13, 2018 by eiii
Posted October 13, 2018
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Ganni1987: The game is Linux native (no wrappers / Wine etc) and comes with a 32bit binary.
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eiii: How can you release a game in 2018 without a 64-bit version? At least for Debian 64-bit installations have outnumbered 32-bit installations already 5 or 6 years ago.
Most probably getting the code to compile on 64bit is a daunting task or creates issues within the game itself. The only game Beamdog was able to provide in 64bit is Planescape.

Just today I was reading about ET: Legacy and that mods aren't compatible with the 64bit version despite the game able to compile and run in that arch.
Post edited October 13, 2018 by Ganni1987
Posted October 13, 2018
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Ganni1987: Most probably getting the code to compile on 64bit is a daunting task or creates issues within the game itself. The only game Beamdog was able to provide in 64bit is Planescape.
When their tools are as outdated as their supported Linux distributions then this of course might be a hard task. :P
Posted October 13, 2018
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Ganni1987: The game is Linux native (no wrappers / Wine etc) and comes with a 32bit binary.
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eiii: How can you release a game in 2018 without a 64-bit version? At least for Debian 64-bit installations have outnumbered 32-bit installations already 5 or 6 years ago. Oh, and looking at the system compatibility, Fedora 21, Debian 8? This is sooo 2018... ;P
This is a legit criticism of Beamdog;they really have dropped the ball with 64 bit support.
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gozer: In the end, anyone interested just in the original is forced to pay extra for product they don't want nor need.
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Mobeeuz: This argument is absurd, no matter how many people sing its verses...

If you didn't already buy NWN then face it, you weren't going to. It was never going to be a giveaway, and would never hit that magic 99¢ price point you were willing to pay.

Technically NWN is exactly the same price it was: $10 for the original, $10 for the Enhanced Edition = $20.

Why anyone would choose to waste time hacking together a compatible version over downloading something ready-to-go requires a clinician...
Yeha, people only had eight years to buy the original at GOG.....

I suspect a lot of this is just basically "BUSINESSMAN ARE EVIL" mentalty at work.
Post edited October 13, 2018 by dudalb
Posted October 13, 2018
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trueshot: You have to recognize that Beamdog doesn't have a lot of resources. They likely don't have the resources to maintain both Diamond Edition and EE.
What do you mean by saying that? They ALREADY sell Diamond Edition as a bonus to EE, which means they MUST support it and "maintain both Diamond Edition and EE".
Posted October 13, 2018
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trueshot: You have to recognize that Beamdog doesn't have a lot of resources. They likely don't have the resources to maintain both Diamond Edition and EE.
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Loger13: What do you mean by saying that? They ALREADY sell Diamond Edition as a bonus to EE, which means they MUST support it and "maintain both Diamond Edition and EE".
Not really. They're giving it as is. There is no implied continued support for the classic edition.
Posted October 13, 2018
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Loger13: What do you mean by saying that? They ALREADY sell Diamond Edition as a bonus to EE, which means they MUST support it and "maintain both Diamond Edition and EE".
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paladin181: Not really. They're giving it as is. There is no implied continued support for the classic edition.
Yeap, really. They sell it (because they take money for it). They MUST support, what they sell.
Posted October 13, 2018
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paladin181: Not really. They're giving it as is. There is no implied continued support for the classic edition.
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Loger13: Yeap, really. They sell it (because they take money for it). They MUST support, what they sell.
Sure. You tell yourself that. Rage, rage against the dying of the light. But remember that the game costs the same on Steam and has no classic version there, and it is therefore a free bonus, not something they are charging for.
Besides, how many devs don't support anything they've released here? Saying they must because you deem it so holds no weight whatsoever.
Post edited October 13, 2018 by paladin181
Posted October 13, 2018
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Loger13: Yeap, really. They sell it (because they take money for it). They MUST support, what they sell.
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paladin181: Sure. You tell yourself that. Rage, rage against the dying of the light. But remember that the game costs the same on Steam and has no classic version there, and it is therefore a free bonus, not something they are charging for.
Besides, how many devs don't support anything they've released here? Saying they must because you deem it so holds no weight whatsoever.
This is correct. The fine print for most software sales (like a "EULA") usually includes a disclaimer of warranty that stipulates you accept the software without any conditions on your end, such as a requirement for continuous updates. Obviously MMORPG subscriptions have some additional unique terms but it's still similar. It's pretty clear that Diamond is way past its end of life support and that the only users who are still playing it- if they own EE as well- are doing so because the persistent worlds they are a part of have not yet transitioned. My understanding is that the consensus among PW admins on 1.69 (Diamond's last official update) is that they will transition in the future, and it's been more about ensuring that their communities are also ready and comfortable with moving as well.

With that said, I'm stoked that Beamdog has an extensive roadmap with EE and has already fixed numerous longstanding issues. Just hoping they get "NWSync" out in the open as soon as possible.
Post edited October 13, 2018 by trueshot
Posted October 13, 2018
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takezodunmer2005: My mistake, I logged out and can see my discount for $10, the amount that I originally paid; leaving my original post as I hate it when people delete and re-edits their posts!

What the HELL!? I just bought the EEdition and NOW you release the DDEdition a day later!? I would have bought this version over the EEdition but now, I have to spend double in order to get this version! Why not discount it to $10 for those who were duped in buying the EE version!?

Dick move beamdog, for not even allowing for an upgrade path...
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Mobeeuz: Refunds available, help yourself.
Re-read my post instead of literally taking it out of context as it renders your post moot...
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