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Posted February 25, 2015
A haze of neon carnage.



<span class="bold">Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number</span>, a conclusion to the psychotic saga, is now available to pre-order for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux, DRM-free on GOG.com with a 10% discount.

Limbs strewn everywhere, pulsating to the rhythmic thumping of a haunting (hauntingly good) mixtape. <span class="bold">Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number</span> is a conclusion to the maddeningly good saga that's conquered so many of our hearts, then left them bleeding out in the corner of a musty motel room. A quiet end, we should count ourselves lucky. Should have, because Hotline Miami is back with a thick, bloody vengeance. If there is one thing to love about the series (other than than the incredible soundtrack and gritty neon-laced setting), it's the precise, fast-paced gameplay which just got better and a bit more varied. There are new unique mask abilities like dual wielding or chainsaws (maybe dual-wielding chainsaws, if we're lucky), and seven new playable characters to make up this twisted part-prequel, part-sequel story of Jacket's aftermath.

If there was ever a good reason to pick up the bigger package, the <span class="bold">Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number Digital Special Edition</span> comes with the Remix EP and 6 unique tracks. An absolute treat, if you're into the Hotline musical stylings. Nothing's lost if you don't want to make the commitment just yet. You can always get the standard edition, and get the upgrade pack when it becomes available later on.

Once it's complete, all versions of the game will also come with a DRM-free Custom Level Editor to create your own maps and share them with friends. While you're waiting, make sure to grab the Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number Digital Comics for free!



Ring ring. It's <span class="bold">Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number</span>. Will you pick up? The pre-order is available now on GOG.com, with a 10% discount.











Why is Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number not available for pre-order in Australia?
Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number was refused classification by the Australian Classification Board - the classification and censorship body formed by the Australian Government - this means that we are legally unable to sell the game to our Australian customers. We hated to hear it as much as you do, but after thoughtful consideration we felt that by refusing to sell the game worldwide, we would effectively apply the Australian censorship to 190+ other countries in the world. That would be unfairly punishing not just to our customers, but also the developers who took a stand against censoring their game.
By preventing purchases from IP's located within the borders of Australia, we make sure that the smallest number of people are affected by the ban. It sucks, but we believe it's the least of all evils.
Post edited February 25, 2015 by Konrad
Posted February 26, 2015
Would anyone be up for "gifting" it to me. Of course I wouldn't ask this for free ;)

Never mind I found a way to teleport to the US =P
Post edited February 26, 2015 by Magmarock
Posted February 26, 2015
Australia has a long history with this kind of patronizing "Father Knows Best" approach of treating everyone like children, heck you can see it in the way the government deals with welfare and the indigenous population (not to mention how the former labor govt tried to sell the proposed internet censorship blacklist as "PROTECT TEH CHILDRENZ!!"), everyone is a "child" who needs the stern hand of The State to set them right with "tough love". Seriously if you ever find yourself in a position in this country of being unemployed and needing c'link benefits, prepare to feel utterly humiliated and emotionally wrecked by the process of being treated like a child just to get a measly fortnightly allowance.

I could go into a rant about how this is a result of Australia's history as a convict colony (the same way America's history as colony for religious exiles) but you probably get the point.
Post edited February 26, 2015 by Crosmando
Posted February 26, 2015
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EnforcerSunWoo: I didn't say that. Don't put words into my mouth.
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tfishell: I didn't say you said it, you posted above a picture of the email Jonatan Söderström sent to someone, and then deleted it it seems. That's what I was referring to and quoting.

However, I will say perhaps I shouldn't have been so candid in encouraging piracy.

In any case, this thing is what I was referring to:

http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/2si0b2/i_contacted_jonatan_s%C3%B6derstr%C3%B6m_hotline_miami_2/
Holy, I never played the first game and I'm not even sure I would like it, but after reading that I feel like buying this anyway.
Posted February 26, 2015
Regardless of regional locking I would like to thank gog and devs for giving all of us a free comic to read. Will definitely put this game up on my wishlist for later buys.
Posted February 26, 2015
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htown1980: This is entirely untrue.

The Australian Classification Board can only classify material. There is no censorship body with any enforcement powers whatsoever. (...) There is no ability to compel google to "blacklist" a website.
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d2t: Officially maybe there isn't and I didn't say that it's ACB that specifically enforces censorship, however I present you this interesting article:

https://www.efa.org.au/2009/03/19/leaked-government-blacklist-confirms-worst-fears/

"The blacklist, which EFA tried unsuccessfully to obtain under Freedom of Information laws, was expected to contain not only some sites publishing illegal material involving minors, but also a majority of sites that were blocked for other reasons. Nevertheless, an examination of the list by EFA has turned up a few very surprising additions. YouTube videos, a MySpace profile, online poker parlours and a site containing poison information were present, as well as many apparently harmless sites such as that of a tour operator and a satirical encyclopedia."
That has nothing to do with the Australian Classification Board or the Office of Film and Literature. It also has nothing to do with google.

That article relates to a proposal in 2009 from a former government (no longer in power) to introduce legislation which would create a mandatory internet filtering scheme. That proposal was widely criticised and rejected in several years ago. No legislation was even put forward.
Posted February 26, 2015
Must have. Luckily I'm in New Zealand at the mo. Still, someone at work tried to pre-order, I think it hasn't been rated yet here or something.

GoG, you can email me when it is available in NZ.
Posted February 26, 2015
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GOG.com: Why is Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number not available for pre-order in Australia?
Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number was refused classification by the Australian Classification Board - the classification and censorship body formed by the Australian Government - this means that we are legally unable to sell the game to our Australian customers. We hated to hear it as much as you do, but after thoughtful consideration we felt that by refusing to sell the game worldwide, we would effectively apply the Australian censorship to 190+ other countries in the world. That would be unfairly punishing not just to our customers, but also the developers who took a stand against censoring their game.
By preventing purchases from IP's located within the borders of Australia, we make sure that the smallest number of people are affected by the ban. It sucks, but we believe it's the least of all evils.
See, now the regionalisation door is open you can't close it. You could sell it to Australians if you weren't in the business of checking where people live.
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bad_fur_day1: Must have. Luckily I'm in New Zealand at the mo. Still, someone at work tried to pre-order, I think it hasn't been rated yet here or something.

GoG, you can email me when it is available in NZ.
Either that or they aren't making a distinction. GOG has a history of treating people in NZ as if they're in Australia.
Post edited February 26, 2015 by SirPrimalform
Posted February 26, 2015
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bad_fur_day1: Must have. Luckily I'm in New Zealand at the mo. Still, someone at work tried to pre-order, I think it hasn't been rated yet here or something.

GoG, you can email me when it is available in NZ.
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SirPrimalform: Either that or they aren't making a distinction. GOG has a history of treating people in NZ as if they're in Australia.
Inside Australian borders I thought was pretty clear. I hope not, can we get some confirmation of this GoG? I would like to pick this up on release day.
Posted February 26, 2015
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bansama: Also, lets remember that GOG built their service on three main principles.

1 - DRM free
2 - Fair worldwide pricing
3 - Worldwide availability
The other two principles were apparently only valid until GOG was a young idealist now they have sadly just become jaded with a corporate mindset judging by all these changes and lack of any communication on them without hardly putting up any resistance for said principles.
Post edited February 26, 2015 by stg83
Posted February 26, 2015
A must purchase for me. The first one has become one of my all time favorites.
Posted February 26, 2015
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bansama: Also, lets remember that GOG built their service on three main principles.

1 - DRM free
2 - Fair worldwide pricing
3 - Worldwide availability
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stg83: The other two principles were apparently only valid until GOG was a young idealist now they have sadly just become jaded with a corporate mindset judging by all these changes and lack of any communication on them without hardly putting up any resistance for said principles.
GoG has neither time, money or resources to fight the Australian government on this. They are not in the business of making a political stand in a certain country, they are in the business of selling digital PC games. It's also a fight that more than likely they cannot win. You guys want GoG to be the robin hood of the digital marketplace but being robin hood doesn't keep the lights on or pay the bills.
Posted February 26, 2015
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Disappointed to see you going down this path GOG, I thought you guys were different.
Posted February 26, 2015
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Tannath: Hum. According to this list, there are other games in GOG's catalogue that have also been denied classification in Australia. Are those going to be restricted too?
Worst thing is once they ban it unless a publisher puts it up with money for a re-review it will always be banned.
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ReynardFox: Is anyone getting a 404 when trying to view the gamecard? Or is this what happens now when I try to access blocked content?
Someone probably has responded already seems to be the case.

I'm not even particularly interested in the game but it leaves me worried with our censorship board. While technically not the government. The board is made up apparently of individuals from diverse backgrounds (I get the feeling they recruit the more conservative types to fill it).
Post edited February 26, 2015 by deonast
Posted February 26, 2015
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ReynardFox: I'm going to guess it's down to drug use, by the look of it, our ratings board considers drug use to be the most morally corrupting and unacceptable content on the planet... when it's in video game form. They couldn't care less in other media it seems.

Also GOG, giving me a 404 when trying to access the gamecard is not cool. I know it's due to the ban because I can fire up Tor and view the card just fine.
That sounds pretty hypocritical, if the case.


The publisher decision to not appeal the ruling and do what is necessary to obtain a classification puts a different light to the whole matter and discussion. It's appear that AU/NZ markets are of little to no interest to them from a business POV, perhaps to GOG too.
Posted February 26, 2015
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Bigs: Ummm.. apparently I don't...
I have an unlocked Steam account
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Austrobogulator: What does this mean?
I'm curious how that would work as well. Steam do region checks on payment method as well, paypal or credit card with Australian address etc.
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