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vcatalanov: Nah,your mom gave me a candy last night. I don't need another one
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P1na: Oh great. She's always been nice, and I like not having to waste money on you. I'd offer a Deus Ex copy instead, as I usually do, but your brain would probably overheat and I don't want to cause you harm.

So, with that out of the way, you might want to clarify your previous statements? I'm still waiting for an answer on that one.
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snowkatt: hey he is all yours
his highschool level "witty repartee" are already starting to bore me

have fun
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P1na: yeah, he's not putting all that much effort.
hopefully spuddy and tinyP wont see this thread
they would have a field day
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snowkatt: i am only interested in vampire to be honest
an thats thanks to bloodlines

the last hurrah of the original world of darkness before it got rebooted
wait wait wait. It got rebooted? Does that mean they just washed away all the old lore and we will get nothing on that setting anymore?
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snowkatt: i am only interested in vampire to be honest
an thats thanks to bloodlines

the last hurrah of the original world of darkness before it got rebooted
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P1na: wait wait wait. It got rebooted? Does that mean they just washed away all the old lore and we will get nothing on that setting anymore?
pretty much yes
its now the requiem

http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire%3A_The_Requiem

personally i like the lore of masquerade more if there every will be a new vampire game it wil no doubt be based on the requiem
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snowkatt: i am only interested in vampire to be honest
an thats thanks to bloodlines

the last hurrah of the original world of darkness before it got rebooted
Never been much of a WOD player myself, although some of my friends were massively into the stuff. And I prefer the streamlines WOD2 over the original (yeah, I know, "Boo", Hiss", "Burn the heretic!" and all that jazz ^^).
I can do investigation or scheming when I play, but I'm more into adventure. When I GM, a game session without at least one explosion, a chase scene or an epic battle (and some good drama) is a missed opportunity :)
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snowkatt: i am only interested in vampire to be honest
an thats thanks to bloodlines

the last hurrah of the original world of darkness before it got rebooted
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Kardwill: Never been much of a WOD player myself, although some of my friends were massively into the stuff. And I prefer the streamlines WOD2 over the original (yeah, I know, "Boo", Hiss", "Burn the heretic!" and all that jazz ^^).
I can do investigation or scheming when I play, but I'm more into adventure. When I GM, a game session without at least one explosion, a chase scene or an epic battle (and some good drama) is a missed opportunity :)
burn burn buuuuuuuuuuuuuurn BURN !!!

actually i think wod 2 is a bit too streamlined vampire got cut down from 13 clans to 5
thats a bit extreme

off course the gangrels are still there so i shouldnt complain too much
I don't see why GOG could not or should not host an MMO, sure it isn't something GOG has done before but if there are people out there that want to play this game and the market is large enough to sustain the servers and maintenance, why not?
On the other hand, active developement of PotCO will probably not take place since the devs are doing other work now.
As for the DRM question, I don't see why making an account to play an MMO is any different than making an account on GOG to download and play games.
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snowkatt: pretty much yes
its now the requiem

http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire%3A_The_Requiem

personally i like the lore of masquerade more if there every will be a new vampire game it wil no doubt be based on the requiem
hmmm... interesting. I like some of the things I read, specially taking focus off combat. That said, I've been really into the masquerade, so I'm quite sad they did away with it.

Regardless of requiem or masquerade, I'd love another vampire game like bloodlines.
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Strijkbout: I don't see why GOG could not or should not host an MMO, sure it isn't something GOG has done before but if there are people out there that want to play this game and the market is large enough to sustain the servers and maintenance, why not?
On the other hand, active developement of PotCO will probably not take place since the devs are doing other work now.
As for the DRM question, I don't see why making an account to play an MMO is any different than making an account on GOG to download and play games.
I think it's safe to say the game got shut down because that wasn't true.
Post edited January 20, 2015 by P1na
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snowkatt: pretty much yes
its now the requiem

http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire%3A_The_Requiem

personally i like the lore of masquerade more if there every will be a new vampire game it wil no doubt be based on the requiem
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P1na: hmmm... interesting. I like some of the things I read, specially taking focus off combat. That said, I've been really into the masquerade, so I'm quite sad they did away with it.

Regardless of requiem or masquerade, I'd love another vampire game like bloodlines.
yeah bloodlines 2 would be awesome

but from the looks of it bloodlines is vtm canon it dies in to the endtimes
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snowkatt: yeah bloodlines 2 would be awesome

but from the looks of it bloodlines is vtm canon it dies in to the endtimes
I haven't read that much of it. I never got into a role playing group, as much as I would have liked, and my constant moving around doesn't exactly help with that. I did read the clan novels a while ago, the one where the Gangrels left the Camarilla and some idiotic Toreador was killing tons of people with an... eye, was it? And some old anti-Giovanni vampire was waking up? I'm sorry, it's been a while. Was all that even canon?
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snowkatt: i am only interested in vampire to be honest
an thats thanks to bloodlines

the last hurrah of the original world of darkness before it got rebooted
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P1na: wait wait wait. It got rebooted? Does that mean they just washed away all the old lore and we will get nothing on that setting anymore?
They rebooted the whole stuff 10 years ago.

Then re-rebooted it again last year to bring back the old WOD with the 25th aniversary edition, while WOD2 is still alive. So basically, we have 2 versions of the WOD, both semi-active at the same time, and very much NOT compatible (The vampires did not change much, but Changeling became an horror game about people tortured and transformed into monsters by crazy aliens, for example)

So it's a mess. But the WOD has always been a glorious mess anyway ^^
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snowkatt: yeah bloodlines 2 would be awesome

but from the looks of it bloodlines is vtm canon it dies in to the endtimes
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P1na: I haven't read that much of it. I never got into a role playing group, as much as I would have liked, and my constant moving around doesn't exactly help with that. I did read the clan novels a while ago, the one where the Gangrels left the Camarilla and some idiotic Toreador was killing tons of people with an... eye, was it? And some old anti-Giovanni vampire was waking up? I'm sorry, it's been a while. Was all that even canon?
i mostly read the wiki and bloodlines seems to tie in with the wod endtimes before it got rebooted in 2004

i had a vtm core book a while back but im not sure if i still got it
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Kardwill: They rebooted the whole stuff 10 years ago.

Then re-rebooted it again last year to bring back the old WOD with the 25th aniversary edition, while WOD2 is still alive. So basically, we have 2 versions of the WOD, both semi-active at the same time, and very much NOT compatible (The vampires did not change much, but Changeling became an horror game about people tortured and transformed into monsters by crazy aliens, for example)

So it's a mess. But the WOD has always been a glorious mess anyway ^^
Oh great, alternate realities! Awesome!

I like messes. Provided that I have the time to delve into them and get to understand it a bit. That's why I love arguing about Legacy of Kain with my friends, and I'm trying to get them to play the Fate/stay night games too.
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snowkatt: i mostly read the wiki and bloodlines seems to tie in with the wod endtimes before it got rebooted in 2004

i had a vtm core book a while back but im not sure if i still got it
This is what I don't like about all this stories, it's all so fragmented. I love a good story and worldbuilding, it's awesome, but I like to have a way to get into it. It's the same with warhammer 40k: it looks awesome, and they seem to have tons of books and stuff with side stories (some of which are bound to be good). But there's no main story, is there? Such a pity, I have to make do with this stuff.
Post edited January 20, 2015 by P1na
i dunno about warhammer 40k
but vampire at leats does have a main story ...ish

and two games which served for me as the gateway
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Strijkbout: As for the DRM question, I don't see why making an account to play an MMO is any different than making an account on GOG to download and play games.
Well, what is happening right now with PotCO is the proof that there IS a difference. They shut down the server, so nooone can play it anymore. On the other hand, if GOG shuts down today, I will still be able to play every game I already downloaded, and even install them on some new computer in 12 years. That's a pretty huge difference.


Not to say I would be shocked to see a MMO here. For me, GOG has always been more about getting old games to work on new computers than about DRM free. But since the DRM free crusade has become their main selling point, I don't really see it happening.
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P1na: This is what I don't like about all this stories, it's all so fragmented. I love a good story and worldbuilding, it's awesome, but I like to have a way to get into it. It's the same with warhammer 40k: it looks awesome, and they seem to have tons of books and stuff with side stories (some of which are bound to be good). But there's no main story, is there? Such a pity, I have to make do with this stuff.
For those, the core story tends to be in the game itself, since it needs to be explained to the players and GMs. So the books tend to be about side stories and details. Especially since big, central, game-spoiling secrets will not get much screentime in books that could be read by unwary players.
I imagine that someone who uses these books as an entry point into the storyline will find it very confusing indeed. It's like trying to read the Lord of the Rings Appendix, but not the novel. ^^
Post edited January 20, 2015 by Kardwill
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snowkatt: i dunno about warhammer 40k
but vampire at leats does have a main story ...ish

and two games which served for me as the gateway
I know there's some lore and backstory, but can I pick a book up and read a propper story? Because if there is, I'll go look for it.
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Kardwill: I imagine that someone who uses these books as an entry point into the storyline will find it very confusing indeed. It's like trying to read the Lord of the Rings Appendix, but not the novel. ^^
Oh, it most certainly is, trust me on that. As I don't have a group to play with, I just know what it's been told to me and pieces I've picked up here and there. All in all, kind of unsatisfactory.
Post edited January 20, 2015 by P1na