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snowkatt: oh you mean the same consoles where gta 5 shifted 33 million units ?
the same consoles where the ps2 sold 155 million units and the wii 101 million units ?
the same consoles where super mario bros 3 sold 18 million units and where cod is a multi million seller each year year in and year out ?

same consoles where there are ps1 and 2 games on psn and a eshop ony for virtual console games on the nintendo side of this

those consoles right ?

apparantly you are rejecting reality and subsituting it with your own
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Shmacky-McNuts: No smart ass! NES, Sega Master System, old systems. This is the debate. >=P
oooh right
the consoles that are available on the eshop on the wii U then
oh hay sega released a megadrive collection on the ps3 and 360 a few years ago
and they are also availabel on steam and dot emu

...yes absolutley not commercially viable at all

lets ignore the fact that nintendo sold nes ports on the gba 10 years ago which were a huge succes in japan
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Barry_Woodward: Many of those games are available on Nintendo's Virtual Console and sell pretty well.
While they should be simply downloaded for free from a rom site, which was deemed illegal like half a decade ago. All this when 14 years ago no one had a problem and even magazines were giving out rom collections with emulators, for free.
Post edited February 01, 2015 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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Barry_Woodward: Many of those games are available on Nintendo's Virtual Console and sell pretty well.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: While they should be simply downloaded for free from a rom site, which was deemed illegal like half a decade ago. All this when 14 years ago no one had a problem and even magazines were giving out rom collections with emulators, for free.
This^ =D

Yall miss the point. The companies use the same FREE emulators as their own(ironic theft?) and often change the packaging. Kinda funny they claim piracy, but steal the emulator which wasn't theirs to sell a game they flatout used to say wasn't worth wasting their time with.

Only AFTER people got all the roms etc for nothing and AFTER the bugs worked out of the emulators, did they market them.

Nobody helped nor programmed the stuff but for free by random people. The companies came AFTER to sell when the work was done.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: While they should be simply downloaded for free from a rom site, which was deemed illegal like half a decade ago. All this when 14 years ago no one had a problem and even magazines were giving out rom collections with emulators, for free.
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Shmacky-McNuts: This^ =D

Yall miss the point. The companies use the same FREE emulators as their own(ironic theft?) and often change the packaging. Kinda funny they claim piracy, but steal the emulator which wasn't theirs to sell a game they flatout used to say wasn't worth wasting their time with.

Only AFTER people got all the roms etc for nothing and AFTER the bugs worked out of the emulators, did they market them.

Nobody helped nor programmed the stuff but for free by random people. The companies came AFTER to sell when the work was done.
Are you saying that Nintendo have stolen or taken the emulators others have made withouth permission?
If they sell games using the emulators withouth permission or paying the creators im pretty sure Nintendo is guilty of theft.
The emulators themself are not against the law.
Also if you have a copy of Super mario bros 3 you are allowed to emulate it.
You cant emulate it if you dont own a cartrigde with super mario bros 3.
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Shmacky-McNuts: This^ =D

Yall miss the point. The companies use the same FREE emulators as their own(ironic theft?) and often change the packaging. Kinda funny they claim piracy, but steal the emulator which wasn't theirs to sell a game they flatout used to say wasn't worth wasting their time with.

Only AFTER people got all the roms etc for nothing and AFTER the bugs worked out of the emulators, did they market them.

Nobody helped nor programmed the stuff but for free by random people. The companies came AFTER to sell when the work was done.
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Lodium: Are you saying that Nintendo have stolen or taken the emulators others have made withouth permission?
If they sell games using the emulators withouth permission or paying the creators im pretty sure Nintendo is guilty of theft.
The emulators themself are not against the law.
Also if you have a copy of Super mario bros 3 you are allowed to emulate it.
You cant emulate it if you dont own a cartrigde with super mario bros 3.
Just sayin it is awfully coinicidental they didn't care for years and AFTER the work is done, the @$$hats magically come up with "their" version >_>

As bradley mentions, ordinary people lifted the games and I have said the emulators did their work. Just seems odd these companies want a piece of the pie after the fact.
(lifted/getting a rom off a physical device, I don't play these games though so I don't care)
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Lodium: Are you saying that Nintendo have stolen or taken the emulators others have made withouth permission?
If they sell games using the emulators withouth permission or paying the creators im pretty sure Nintendo is guilty of theft.
The emulators themself are not against the law.
Also if you have a copy of Super mario bros 3 you are allowed to emulate it.
You cant emulate it if you dont own a cartrigde with super mario bros 3.
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Shmacky-McNuts: Just sayin it is awfully coinicidental they didn't care for years and AFTER the work is done, the @$$hats magically come up with "their" version >_>

As bradley mentions, ordinary people lifted the games and I have said the emulators did their work. Just seems odd these companies want a piece of the pie after the fact.
(lifted/getting a rom off a physical device, I don't play these games though so I don't care)
Read this :
http://arcadesushi.com/retron-5-allegedly-using-licensed-emulator-code-without-creators-permission/
lol ^

Oh well...
Post edited February 01, 2015 by Shmacky-McNuts
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Shmacky-McNuts: Yall miss the point. The companies use the same FREE emulators as their own(ironic theft?) and often change the packaging. Kinda funny they claim piracy, but steal the emulator which wasn't theirs to sell a game they flatout used to say wasn't worth wasting their time with.

Only AFTER people got all the roms etc for nothing and AFTER the bugs worked out of the emulators, did they market them.

Nobody helped nor programmed the stuff but for free by random people. The companies came AFTER to sell when the work was done.
Technically, its not theft most emulators are licensed under one Free/Libre software license or another
Post edited February 01, 2015 by king_mosiah
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Barry_Woodward: Many of those games are available on Nintendo's Virtual Console and sell pretty well.
What's funny is watching "today's kids" playing old NES games. They think they are harder. I've seen this a few times and find it quite funny.
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Shmacky-McNuts: Yall miss the point. The companies use the same FREE emulators as their own(ironic theft?) and often change the packaging. Kinda funny they claim piracy, but steal the emulator which wasn't theirs to sell a game they flatout used to say wasn't worth wasting their time with.

Only AFTER people got all the roms etc for nothing and AFTER the bugs worked out of the emulators, did they market them.

Nobody helped nor programmed the stuff but for free by random people. The companies came AFTER to sell when the work was done.
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king_mosiah: Technically, its not theft most emulators are licensed under one Free/Libre software license or another
I know this. But it is breaking the license when they do not give express credit. But I cannot speak for every company as I don't own all of them.
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Barry_Woodward: Many of those games are available on Nintendo's Virtual Console and sell pretty well.
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flashpulse: What's funny is watching "today's kids" playing old NES games. They think they are harder. I've seen this a few times and find it quite funny.
Yeah, like The Fine Brothers on youtube?

Kids are funny as hell trying to figure out a gameboy or NES lol XD
Post edited February 01, 2015 by Shmacky-McNuts
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https://twitter.com/sethdavis/status/561058457059459072

Vote for LucasArts SNES games on the wishlist:

Super Star Wars
Super Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back
Super Star Wars: Return Of The Jedi
Indiana Jones' Greatest Adventures
Zombies Ate My Neighbors
Ghoul Patrol
Big Sky Trooper
Metal Warriors
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king_mosiah: How is me running my legally bought copy of Daggerfall in dosbox under Linux piracy?
Did you read the post i replied to? The guy i replied to is talking about emulating old games for free without owning the original copies, just read his posts. Context is important, you know.
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Neobr10: Did you read the post i replied to? The guy i replied to is talking about emulating old games for free without owning the original copies, just read his posts. Context is important, you know.
Except that copyright was never planned/intended to last forever, and if the original 14-28 year copyright length was still followed, they would probably be totally legal to acquire and enjoy.

But i doubt anyone cares about my random thoughts...
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rtcvb32: Except that copyright was never planned/intended to last forever, and if the original 14-28 year copyright length was still followed, they would probably be totally legal to acquire and enjoy.

But i doubt anyone cares about my random thoughts...
And since when am i defending that the current copyright model is perfect? I don't even know why you replied to me, your post has absolutely nothing to do with what i said.
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Neobr10: Did you read the post i replied to? The guy i replied to is talking about emulating old games for free without owning the original copies, just read his posts. Context is important, you know.
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rtcvb32: Except that copyright was never planned/intended to last forever, and if the original 14-28 year copyright length was still followed, they would probably be totally legal to acquire and enjoy.

But i doubt anyone cares about my random thoughts...
I view the copyright extensions as a breach of the social contract: By giving themselves rights without compensating the public, the virtue of corporations is suspect at best. This also applies to Valve and other companies that change the terms of a EULA at their discretion, without any input from the customer.

How in the world can law be respected, when it is clearly meant to enrich one particular group at the expense of others?