It's forii you dolts.

Denuvo substantially increases kitten mortality, but may lower cholesterol. Fact.

I share your frustration unfortunately. I used to be an extremely frequent poster here and to begin with the "no rules" policy worked pretty well. But then we saw the rise of the alt-right, a lot of whom saw an opportunity to exploit GOG's lenience in this regard to establish the GOG forum as an alt-right/Gamergate friendly cesspool of insults and hate. It made it clear that rules had become necessary.

Fables' rules were a start but they had two fundamental problems: they were too "defined" in that they prohibited behaviour that was perfectly harmless and acceptable before (e.g. swearing, other NSFW content), and they tended to lett problematic conduct off on technicalities.

I don't tend to frequent the forums much anymore unless I'm looking for a specific response to a specific GOG game-related question, but one exception was when GOG ended up finding itself with unwanted publicity regarding that tweet. I personally had no opinion on it apart from its potential to be inflammatory, and I came back to find out GOG's response on the matter, but after looking at the various threads on it, I decided not to - the community was as toxic as ever.

There are some members of the community that I still respect here: PaterAlf, tinyE, hedwards...Wishbone if he's still kicking around, but it seems most of the decent gaming-centric crowd have left for greener, more decent pastures.

Interesting that you should believe that insults are meant to be a natural part of public discourse.

I never said I believed any such thing. Don't put words into my mouth.

Yet he did not say that at all. Read it again if you will and you will see the meaning you attributed to his words just isn't there.

Public forums are open to anyone, and there's bound to be inflammatory remarks and insults thrown around - I would compare this to a market/bazaar which attracts pickpockets. In an ideal world they would not belong there, but realistically speaking it's naive to assume there won't be any and flaunt your shiny coins around.

Indeed. If a forum moderator doesn't ban people for disagreeing "social justice" rant it is alt-right friendly. And any criticism of "progressive" worldview is harrassment and insulting, so there should be rules against it. </sarcasm>

I only peek in every now and again, but really, the only TRULY unreasonable pissantry has been during the whole VG247 nonsense, and maybe a few entitled twats over the No Man's Sky update (which really should have been pushed back anyway, but that's another issue).

Overlall, the place seems chill enough.

But then we saw the rise of the alt-right, a lot of whom saw an opportunity to exploit GOG's lenience in this regard to establish the GOG forum as an alt-right/Gamergate friendly cesspool of insults and hate. It made it clear that rules had become necessary.

Again, I feel the need to stress that toxicity is not the domain of one extreme. The far left/SJW types are just as insufferable as the far right/alt-right. Honestly, the only way to prevent any public space from becoming a hive of culture war bullshit is to BFG9000 any potential extremism from the forums, and that would present its own issues with interpretation.

While I do think that a site that can't be arsed to have forum moderators doesn't need a forum, moderation isn't a science. We must be careful not to deify one set of extremists while demonizing another. At the end of the day, the only acceptable response to two factions of ideologues demanding absolute loyalty is "no" to both.

Jamyskis is off his meds again... :D

As for the OP: I'm sure there are more dignified hills to die on than shilling for a particularly disliked brand of DRM. Just because you've been in this industry longer than some of us have been alive doesn't mean that people have to take your opinions on Denuvo as scripture. That is a weird thing to take personal offense at.

That's it! I've had it!

I'm jettisoning the rest of you from the forums! This forum will be all mine, alone. Only then we can have a lasting peace here.

Bye!






You still here? I said BYE! Which part of "bye" you don't understand? It is pronounced like "pie" but with more ooomph!

Exploded pie chart!

I thought the same thing. "Denuvo doesn't cause performance impacts" has already been debunked and discussed literally only a few days before on the thread called "What is the issue with Denuvo really"?. So when someone pops up and says "Denuvo has no impact on hardware and causes no performance issues, people should know the facts and not make things up just because they believe it to be true" then later quickly deletes those posts and replaces them with the single word "Trolled", then claims to be "attacked" yet refuses to say where and no-one else can pinpoint any post that does that, it tends to suggest that OP is more the troll than the one being trolled.

As for Denuvo, the only truth is that it doesn't "damage hardware" (the "it kills SSD's" claim). However, the "zero impact on performance" claim is blatantly false that I made a detailed post here the other day giving at least 3-4 examples involving measurements rather than "beliefs". The performance impact may not be the same for every game, nor may it even be the same kind of impact (eg, games with vs without Denuvo may have the same average fps (the only thing most people bother to test for) but the one with Denuvo can still have much longer startup / save-load times or higher CPU spiking (increased stutter due to lower min fps / worse frame-times than avg fps) on quad-core CPU's.

As for "I had a meeting today at work and posted comments from the person here on the forums and my staff laughed at reading them", bringing personal Internet arguments into work in general doesn't come across as being particularly professional...

So...

You call people, who have had experiences different from yours, trolls and liars - and you're the one who's been insulted?

So, you corrected me by admitting that I'm correct?

The term forum for an internet discussion board comes from the Latin for public square, hence why the proper plural is fora and not forums. Forums is also generally accepted, even though it's technically incorrect. In the same way that we tend to accept octopi, and octopuses even though neither one is technically correct as the root word is Greek which means the technically correct forum is octopodes.

The plural is "forums". You're speaking English, not Greek or Latin. And if you insist on using plural forms of other languages, why restrict it to those two?

Exodi.












I AM JUST KIDDING. It's too hot folks. Losing your cool over latin vs. English declension, simple corporate apologies or positive experiences with DRM, it's not worth it. It's just not worth it.