Old games are great and I've created my account here with this objective in mind but I don't mind new games showing up. We're living dark times on the gaming industry and GoG is possible the last bastion against terrible market pratices. For now, as long as they keep alive, I'm okay with their decisions.

That bastion has crumbled down to the last pillar.

Don't forget Wizards & Warriors, never played it back in the day (just started yesterday) and it's awesome!

Every once in a while there's an article detailing the process of obtaining older games, yet it doesn't seem to slow these threads. Here's the latest:

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/gogs-10-year-journey-to-bring-old-games-back-to-life/

And here's a quote from the article:

'With classic titles, most rights are lost between companies, liquidation, bankruptcies, mergers and acquisitions. And it’s not always that obvious. Some agreements are written in a way where after a certain amount of time the rights revert to the developer. But the rights for what? The code? The IP? The character, the music? Actually, every one is separate. There are games where we’ve signed five-way agreements, and some rights went to one party and are blocked by another. It’s insanely complicated to track it all.

I come from the perspective that the creator is the one who is going to care most, and [is the] most likely to know where the rights remain. Then I go to the publisher, who has probably gone bankrupt. But nothing disappears when it comes to rights. They’re there somewhere, and someone must have inherited or acquired them. That was the case for the Forgotten Realms games. They were really difficult. They were journeys through pain, but Oleg managed to find all the people who were involved. He worked for years to make that happen.'

Years. And that's just the first step. After that they've got to pray someone still has the source code before they can even begin to rework it for modern systems.

That was from before the redesign on Oct 1, didn't go that far.
You can say that again. Though this pillar had crumbled 5 years ago, now it just completely turned to dust.

So you missquote me and then agree with yourself. Shitposting in its lowest form. Hacking? I'm talking about basic stuff like playing pre-patched, playing a certain patch version or playing expansion-less. GoG offers no convenience there. They also employ unofficial patches and even mod cult classics. If you don't want your game unofficially patched or modded, that's the definition of inconvenience.

GoG don't care about authenticity or preservation in these cases. Only the originals and pirated originals (assuming the pirate didn't modify the game) supply the authentic experience and preserve an accurate knowledge-base. Why would I be talking about myself in a negative light? I've already said I own the originals for the games I commentate on. These I purchased back when they came out. You don't have to believe me, but then, I don't have to believe you own a single original game either. More doubt is cast on your assertion, though, since you claim to own 2000 originals and yet still repurchased 1600 of them from GoG in addition. Also, I'm sure you're an expert on each and every one of them. Please provide citations that prove your expertise, your credibility, and why anyone should take you seriously. Here is my proof:

https://lilura1.blogspot.com/p/baldurs-gate.html

Read that and try to tell me I wasn't around when those games came out. I have more credibility than you, son.

Btw, I'll be posting some of these comments on my blog and writing another article about this, so keep 'em coming.

I agree with Breja who said:
"I didn't realise we have to choose one and hate the other. Here I was, perfectly happy playing new and old games alike. I guess I screwed everything up."

I buy and play both old and new. And, I have been buying from GOG since they started. My library spans from 90's to today.


Regarding GOG forum- IMHO, most people on GOG forum aren't toxic. I have gotten a lot of useful info here about particular games. I like chatting about gaming. A minority of participants talk toxic and GOG ought to moderate the more toxic talk like other forums doep to keep the customer experience pleasant.

The last pillar is DRM-free and even that is under attack due to Galaxy's account tie in and some additional sneaky online authentications like the whole Gremlins Inc. disaster.

Does anyone really believe the debate about DRM-free vs DRM is really relevant - anymore, unless it gets lifted from its gaming-niche into the broader aspects of freedom vs safety in our daily - digital - realm?

If GOG should be the "last bastion" here, we're certainly in dire need.

GOG decided to alienate it's fan base by wanting to only offer new games now instead of old. I don't want to buy new games from GOG, if others do then great but I'm sure I'm not the only one that comes to GOG wanting to buy old games no longer available in retail or other platforms. I want some good old games.

80% of those that were released here, when they finally were. I don't need to prove anything. You were the one promoting piracy: ... while claiming you have all the originals on CD... why pirate them then? Lol, you certainly have a lot of expertise on BG, NWN and co, I don't doubt that.
As for credibility - you're really working hard on destroying that with your ad hominem attacks on other users...

I have to say I haven't bought much from GOG over the past 12 months compared to what I used to. It just feels like GOG are losing their way and are now more interested in new titles. There have been a few older releases but it is mainly strategy which becomes a bit tiresome if it isn't a preferred genre.

I do appreciate that there are licensing problems etc for a lot of the old games and it has to be hard sorting stuff out. I would love to see the rest of the Gathering of Developers games to land here like Fakk 2 and then games like Nocturne need a new lease of life and who can forget classics like Klingon Honor Guard which is a nightmare to get running on modern systems. There are plenty older titles out there but things have really slowed down with the classics and it feels like GOG are now concentrating on new and indie titles.

Hopefully it will be a blip but I can't see it, I came for the classics, the first games I bought here was Giants : Citizen Kabuto & Redneck Rampage.....Now thopse were the days

You keep buying older games, I will keep buying the games I like. Deal? Deal.

It's obviously clear due to the issues that GoG are in, that old games don't sell in the volumes that you/me think they do.
We are not 'faithfull' to one platform anymore. Digital put paid to that. You want a game today it's on Steam. You want to watch sport or films, subscribe to a pay per view (Sky/BT) When i bought Half Life and it required to be installed on a thing called 'steam' and connected to the (dial-up) internet. The uproar on magazines and forums was monstrous! With many taking the game back for a refund - which they got. Such was the reaction. Now it's normal and no one cares. Everything is streaming and paid for or online.
GoG itself shares your games with steam (and gives you a DRM free copy). It has tried to go with the 'flow'. But it's a niche generation platform. I myself have been gaming for nearly 30 years on PC you have to have gone through the VGA DOS days and the hassle getting things running -which for us was the challenge and fun in those early days. Today's gamers have no experience of that on PC and expect everything to just work in 4K res. HW is a doddle to install, you can't even work on cars or repair much anything now.
Steam has all their 'friends' and a workshop. XBox/PS4 again are the same. try and lure people over is impossible. Life has changed and that's it.
I remember GoG from a long time ago, then it disappeared overnight -pretty much. Then appeared in it's current form.

Reminisce

So you don't know what FTFY stands for?
So much for being an authority, huh?

(Since I don't want to let you die ignorant: FTFY = (I) fixed that for you)

;)