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Posted June 03, 2021
Yeah, CDPR is doing fine, but if I were them, I'd consider buying back stock and leaving the stock market, seeing as it was the shareholders who got them in this hot mess in the first place. Then I'd hand control over to the workers, and investigate the senior staff. Clearly one of them keeps making braindead decisions.
Post edited June 03, 2021 by Darvond
Posted June 03, 2021
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Wolf904: A lot of YouTube videos are reporting CDPR profits down 67% and shareholders are abandoning the company, mainly due to Cyberpunk 2077 not being allowed back on the Playstation store, because it is their main storefront that gives them most of their sales.
A lot of youtube videos are not a source whatsoever.
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Wolf904: Is GOG going to be shut down if CDPR goes bankrupt?
CDPR won't go bankrupt they still made more money than they put in with CP2077
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Wolf904: Should I stop buying games on GOG and go back to Steam?
You can backup all your GOG games easily and copy them to multiple harddrivs withour issue since its DRM free. Make backups and don't worry. Suport DRM-free versions of games over non DRM free. SO the answer is no. Do not go back to steam.
Posted June 03, 2021
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Wolf904: A lot of YouTube videos are reporting CDPR profits down 67% , mainly due to Cyberpunk 2077 not being allowed back on the Playstation store, because it is their main storefront that gives them most of their sales.
Do you know what "profit" is? Why would a profitable company go bankrupt?

Why do you watch "a lot of youtube videos" saying the same thing? Do you think they have different sources?
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Wolf904: and shareholders are abandoning the company
What does this mean? How can you "abandon" the company if you own stock in it? Sell stock? What does it change?
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Wolf904: Is GOG going to be shut down if CDPR goes bankrupt?
It'll probably get sold off to one of the IT giants who keep trying to break into vidya, get infested with DRM, and only be shut down when it predictably fails to help the owner break into vidya.
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Wolf904: Should I stop buying games on GOG and go back to Steam?
You should stop buying games and go back to school.
Posted June 03, 2021
The sun started rising sooner today than it did last month, should I be worried? Is the sun going to implode Iit won't, but I'm worried nonetheless)? Can we do something?
Post edited June 03, 2021 by NuffCatnip
Posted June 03, 2021
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Wolf904: A lot of YouTube videos are reporting CDPR profits down 67% and shareholders are abandoning the company, mainly due to Cyberpunk 2077 not being allowed back on the Playstation store, because it is their main storefront that gives them most of their sales.

Is GOG going to be shut down if CDPR goes bankrupt?

Should I stop buying games on GOG and go back to Steam?
https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/investors/

All the data is in there. Youtubers tend to not be financially literate or understand accounting; the key takehome is that the EBIT for CDP in Q1 was c 43m PLN; they're still profitable, bankruptcy is a low probability occurrence in the near future.

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DoomSooth: I didn't quite keep up with the details of what happened with Cyberpunk 2077 but didn't someone at CDPR get a bonus of millions of dollars? Why should someone get a bonus for making a mess? Money like that could be better spent on GOG.
The incentive plan that was paid out was likely based on a range of financial and non-financial criteria. The fact remains that while the launch was sub-optimal, the game itself was profitable as is CDP. Although bonuses are largely discretional, if the threshold criteria for payment are met, most companies will pay them out to retain the trust of their key employees.
Posted June 03, 2021
Obligatory post...
Posted June 03, 2021
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Wolf904: Is GOG going to be shut down if CDPR goes bankrupt?
Straight from the horse's mouth, if you haven't seen it.

Official - https://www.gog.com/forum/general/check_these_facts_and_numbers_about_gog_fc178/page1

We often receive questions and messages asking how we are doing as a team, company, store, and platform. That is why we decided to give you a bit more insight into our operations and last year’s results.

Last year was a very challenging time for all of us due to the ongoing global pandemic. Since March 2020, our team continues to work remotely from homes, which is not always easy. Having that in mind, we’re even more proud and happy to share these facts and numbers with you.

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It’s a new format for us to share data like this and we’d appreciate hearing your impressions, comments, and suggestions.
Posted June 03, 2021
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CDPR isn't going bankrupt. They sold many millions of copies of Cyberpunk despite it being total trash.

And even if it did flop - which it didn't, unfortunately - then CDPR could handle it flopping anyway, since it's Witcher 3 game is an endless cash cow.

As for GOG, that's an entirely different matter. GOG seems perpetually to be right on the verge of bankruptcy and could indeed go bankrupt at any time.
Posted June 03, 2021
I do wonder if the "2nd class citizens" list is going to catch up or is catching up to GOG. If most of the userbase is using Galaxy then DRM-free might not be a huge deal to them compared to the vocal forum, but they'd care about missing key patches and maybe other features.

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Ancient-Red-Dragon: GOG seems perpetually to be right on the verge of bankruptcy
I'll agree that's how it can feel.
Post edited June 03, 2021 by tfishell
Posted June 03, 2021
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: As for GOG, that's an entirely different matter. GOG seems perpetually to be right on the verge of bankruptcy and could indeed go bankrupt at any time.
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tfishell: I'll agree that's how it can feel.
What is the reasoning behind this?

Forums do suck, but everything else seems fine.
Posted June 03, 2021
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tfishell: I'll agree that's how it can feel.
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Canuck_Cat: What is the reasoning behind this?

Forums do suck, but everything else seems fine.
For some people a feeling gets much stronger by a wish....
Posted June 04, 2021
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Canuck_Cat: What is the reasoning behind this?

Forums do suck, but everything else seems fine.
It often feels that the focus of any effort of the GOG backend staff are either nonexistant, or misfocused. Taking the feeling of "Skeleton Crew" too literally; it gives the idea that there's a desk somewhere with a Compaq sitting on it, and a very dusty and cobwebbed skeleton sitting there.

The number of bugs and afflictions the website has suffered which would have been zotted out of existence by anyone actually focused on webdev, for example. Like the reply notification bug.
Posted June 04, 2021
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TomNuke: Why would you go back to Steam? If a game is available on both GOG and Steam you always buy on GOG.

If I buy something on GOG I basically "own" the game. Assuming I download the offline installers and take care of my personal backups (you're stupid if you're not backing up your offline-installers) no one can take that away from me.

That's not the case with a rental service like Steam. Valve has straight up said that Steam is a rental service. If something happened to Steam or Valve, well, you're entire library is more or less gone. If something happens to GOG, well, my games are fully useable and in my possession. I'm not dependant on some shitty App like Steam to install and retrieve the software I paid for.

GOG = Here's your purchased software. It's your's to keep forever, and even if something happens to us. Just make sure you don't lose it!

Steam = Here's access to your "lifetime" rental. If something happens to us though, you'll no longer have access to our service and therefor any of the software you thought you "owned" when buying from us.

But seriously, GOG is not going anywhere. The Summer sale will be starting soon (hopefully tomorrow) and you should always buy with confidence. Feel good knowing that if you buy something on GOG you're getting the best version of that game possible, because it's one that you have control over and actually "own".

No GOG = No buy.
Depends on the game and the version available. Some game have more DLC's, more features (often proprietary), and more support elsewhere - especially newer titles.

See threads like this, when GOG versions get 2nd class citizen treatment: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/games_that_treat_gog_customers_as_second_class_citizens_v2/page1

For older titles - yeah, GOG's usually the better choice. Often, titles get fixes and/or things implemented out-the-box from GOG. Less muss and less fuss.

For newer titles - eh, depends on the support from the dev's and/or pub's on the said game.

About DRM-FREE - can't beat that, especially when it comes to Single-Player titles. GOG is where it's at, for that.

Though, there are some titles on Steam, that don't have DRM wrapped about the game's actual EXE itself - making it DRM-FREE once you download the files through the closed client-app (Steam). Just back those up elsewhere and whatever dependency files needed (i.e. PhysX drivers for some games; VC files; etc).

Problem is - Steam doesn't really often make that stuff public. We have to hunt on GOG Forums, Game Wiki's, Steam DRM Wiki's, and other things like that.

And sometimes, some games...it's just flat-out cheaper on Steam.

I ain't gonna live forever...and neither is Steam, Windows, etc etc. Gonna play what I can, while I can.
Posted June 04, 2021
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Wolf904: Should I stop buying games on GOG and go back to Steam?
The point of DRM free is that GOG's continued existence is irrelevant.
Posted June 04, 2021
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MysterD: I ain't gonna live forever...and neither is Steam, Windows, etc etc. Gonna play what I can, while I can.
I understand what you mean...
...on the other hand, I have around 700 games on GOG - more than I can play in my lifetime - so I don't see the need to buy DRM'ed games.
Your YOLO seems very connected to playing the latest AAA titles.
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