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Posted August 27, 2015
I also watched gameplay of Skyrim at a friend's and could tell that I would have also hated it (even more than I did Morrowind and Oblivion.) However, I am wholly of the mentality that things were just made better in the past (and generally, to a point, the further you go back, the better it was made), and, find it very likely that The Elder Scrolls games go downhill over the years. Anyway, simple question, not looking to argue or debate, just some perspective from people who have played them and might understand where I'm at and be able to give some feedback. Thanks!
Posted August 27, 2015
Yeah, I have a similar question, so I wonder the same thing may self: I tried twice to play Oblivion but I gave up, and I think Skyrim was just ok 7-8/10 (I finished it but I think it lacked soul, I enjoyed Gothic 2 and Risen more). How different are Morrowind and the other games?
Post edited August 27, 2015 by GabiMoro
Posted August 27, 2015
Play Nethack for better game mechanics.

Play Dark Souls for more of a intense action-rpg

Play TES:Daggerfall for a walking simulator (the generated map is freak'n huge)

EDIT: ALSO Daggerfall is free on bethesda website.. js
Post edited August 27, 2015 by comradegarry
Posted August 27, 2015
To this day Daggerfall is still my favourite Elder Scrolls game. Back when the series felt more like a Roguelike than anything.
Posted August 27, 2015
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drealmer7: I also watched gameplay of Skyrim at a friend's and could tell that I would have also hated it (even more than I did Morrowind and Oblivion.) However, I am wholly of the mentality that things were just made better in the past (and generally, to a point, the further you go back, the better it was made), and, find it very likely that The Elder Scrolls games go downhill over the years. Anyway, simple question, not looking to argue or debate, just some perspective from people who have played them and might understand where I'm at and be able to give some feedback. Thanks!
It might be helpful to know what exactly you didn't like.

Personally I've still not gotten through Oblivion or FNV for that matter but I am fond of Skyrim.
Posted August 27, 2015
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Enclave996: To this day Daggerfall is still my favourite Elder Scrolls game. Back when the series felt more like a Roguelike than anything.
yeah maybe I should be kinder to it, I just like to jest a bit :)
Posted August 27, 2015
It's funny.
In other thread some one was telling he hated Arena and Daggerfall because they have horrible graphics.
I have never played any Elder Scroll Games (except Arena and Daggerfall because they were free) so can't say much.
But I am going to play it soon because the great Iamsinistar gifted me one! :)
Post edited August 27, 2015 by amrit9037
Posted August 27, 2015
If you didn't like Morrowind I can't imagine you'd like Arena or Daggerfall.
Posted August 27, 2015
I also have similar feelings :)
To hazard a guess I'd suggest the oldest of the elder scrolls bundle here and then you'd get the daggerfall too.
Unless you've played them too.
Posted August 27, 2015
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GabiMoro: Yeah, I have a similar question, so I wonder the same thing may self: I tried twice to play Oblivion but I gave up, and I think Skyrim was just ok 7-8/10 (I finished it but I think it lacked soul, I enjoyed Gothic 2 and Risen more). How different are Morrowind and the other games?
Morrowind seemed like the complete opposite of Oblivion, it's all handcrafted. I can't seem to get excited about Gothic or Risen because I'm spoiled by Morrowind. You might be somewhat set into Gothic and Risens way of doing things, Morrowind is surely on par with those.
Post edited August 27, 2015 by bad_fur_day1
Posted August 27, 2015
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drealmer7: I also watched gameplay of Skyrim at a friend's and could tell that I would have also hated it (even more than I did Morrowind and Oblivion.) However, I am wholly of the mentality that things were just made better in the past (and generally, to a point, the further you go back, the better it was made), and, find it very likely that The Elder Scrolls games go downhill over the years. Anyway, simple question, not looking to argue or debate, just some perspective from people who have played them and might understand where I'm at and be able to give some feedback. Thanks!
What is it you don't like about Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind? Its hard to suggest without understanding what you don't like about them. They are quite different from each other also, Morrowind has more story, and with Overhaul + Rebirth, can be quite pretty. Oblivion really didn't have much story, or anything until you add a ton of mods to it, graphics, levelling (I mean just don't play it without Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul otherwise its a joke). Skyrim lacked anything as, story was crap, graphics weren't that great to start, needs a ton of mods to make it worthwhile. Also console interface needs changing.

As for the earlier games, yes, they will probably be harder to get into for you. If you don't like the above, then all I can say is maybe try one of the free ones - [url=http://wiwiki.wiwiland.net/index.php?title=Daggerfall_:_DaggerfallSetup_EN]http://wiwiki.wiwiland.net/index.php?title=Daggerfall_:_DaggerfallSetup_EN[/url]
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comradegarry: Play Nethack for better game mechanics.

Play Dark Souls for more of a intense action-rpg

Play TES:Daggerfall for a walking simulator (the generated map is freak'n huge)

EDIT: ALSO Daggerfall is free on bethesda website.. js
Never play Dark Souls, easily the worst game ever - Graphics - 0, story - 0, control - 0.

Nethack is ok though.
Posted August 27, 2015
Soul. That's what's missing from most new games. Technically, video games have never been better looking with more shiny window dressing and bells and whistles. But under the hood, there's just fiber optic wires and some overheating CPUs. The pioneering psychos who built the industry have all gone off to do other things or just got stupid rich from their success and retired to Florida. Their replacements were burned out IT guys and snot nosed nerds with a bachelor's in programming. You replace Yoda with a college intern and then you show me a highly skilled room full of jedi. Ain't gonna happen.

I think sometimes gamers tend to look at things from a particular angle, depending largely on the specific game, network, client, or other technical thing is being analyzed. Sometimes they/we tend to overlook the more subtle truths of creative power and the minds behind it... the history of it. Humans are getting increasingly better and more skilled and figuring HOW to do something, but less and less able to ask themselves (and each other) WHY they do something.
Posted August 27, 2015
Daggerfall is probably the best if you can stomach the old graphics. Morrowind comes pretty close, having a well crafted world and lore plus a pretty decent story (probably the last game when Bethesda actually bothered with making a palatable story).
Posted August 27, 2015
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Emob78: Soul. That's what's missing from most new games. Technically, video games have never been better looking with more shiny window dressing and bells and whistles. But under the hood, there's just fiber optic wires and some overheating CPUs. The pioneering psychos who built the industry have all gone off to do other things or just got stupid rich from their success and retired to Florida. Their replacements were burned out IT guys and snot nosed nerds with a bachelor's in programming. You replace Yoda with a college intern and then you show me a highly skilled room full of jedi. Ain't gonna happen.

I think sometimes gamers tend to look at things from a particular angle, depending largely on the specific game, network, client, or other technical thing is being analyzed. Sometimes they/we tend to overlook the more subtle truths of creative power and the minds behind it... the history of it. Humans are getting increasingly better and more skilled and figuring HOW to do something, but less and less able to ask themselves (and each other) WHY they do something.
Very true. I think the other point to remember is saturation. Greek myths, Norse myths, Celtic tales, Arabian Nights etc. have lasted thousands of years, as they are not only good, but had little competition. Nowadays there are books churned out by the truckload, videos, music, games a million a day. It just waters everything down, and makes life feel *thin*. Have said it before, the magic and mystery of life has gone and been replaced by something I can't put my finger on, apathy, pointlessness something along those lines. This isn't 100%, there are still some things which are developed which do spark the old fire. Maybe its just getting old thats the problem :o)
Posted August 27, 2015
I remember liking Daggerfall, Oblivion and Skyrim but not Morrowind. So god only knows. Personally I wouldn't count on liking but you could always try.
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