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Fever_Discordia: So, sounds like you're still blaming GOG then? Or are you just saying you feel dis-heartened?
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tfishell: It's mostly disheartening.

Obviously because I don't work for GOG I don't know the full story. In this state of "not knowing", I do feel some animosity towards GOG (plus I have various memories built up here of a thus-futile effort in trying to bring the H games), but obviously without all the facts I have to be careful who I "blame". Maybe Nimbus Games was still involved and said "no" to DRM-free, or maybe Tommo or Night Dive wanted to charge more than GOG thought was respectable.

For now, maybe the time being, I'll just be less active on the forums, probably not post GOG stuff to r/games, and hold off on the game research. GOG's still a great service, I just have a harder time supporting them on a personal level.
Reading that H games will be on Steam I thought there is only a matter of time until they will be available on GOG too. But from what are you saying the situations is bad.
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Fever_Discordia: So, sounds like you're still blaming GOG then? Or are you just saying you feel dis-heartened?
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tfishell: It's mostly disheartening.

Obviously because I don't work for GOG I don't know the full story. In this state of "not knowing", I do feel some animosity towards GOG (plus I have various memories built up here of a thus-futile effort in trying to bring the H games), but obviously without all the facts I have to be careful who I "blame". Maybe Nimbus Games was still involved and said "no" to DRM-free, or maybe Tommo or Night Dive wanted to charge more than GOG thought was respectable.

For now, maybe the time being, I'll just be less active on the forums, probably not post GOG stuff to r/games, and hold off on the game research. GOG's still a great service, I just have a harder time supporting them on a personal level.
OK cool man, I hope they do turn up for you eventually then!
BTW the first batch has just dropped onto Steam at £4.99 each with an immediate 50% off taking them to £2.49 so it doesn't look like price was the issue, unless GOG wanted to do packs for that price...
Post edited April 17, 2014 by Fever_Discordia
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tfishell: It's mostly disheartening.

Obviously because I don't work for GOG I don't know the full story. In this state of "not knowing", I do feel some animosity towards GOG (plus I have various memories built up here of a thus-futile effort in trying to bring the H games), but obviously without all the facts I have to be careful who I "blame". Maybe Nimbus Games was still involved and said "no" to DRM-free, or maybe Tommo or Night Dive wanted to charge more than GOG thought was respectable.

For now, maybe the time being, I'll just be less active on the forums, probably not post GOG stuff to r/games, and hold off on the game research. GOG's still a great service, I just have a harder time supporting them on a personal level.
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Fever_Discordia: OK cool man, I hope they do turn up for you eventually then!
BTW the first batch has just dropped onto Steam at £4.99 each with an immediate 50% off taking them to £2.49 so it doesn't look like price was the issue, unless GOG wanted to do packs for that price...
Well, most oldies are either $6 or $10, while those are $7, so maybe, just maybe, the price did have something to do?
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Fever_Discordia: OK cool man, I hope they do turn up for you eventually then!
BTW the first batch has just dropped onto Steam at £4.99 each with an immediate 50% off taking them to £2.49 so it doesn't look like price was the issue, unless GOG wanted to do packs for that price...
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tapeworm00: Well, most oldies are either $6 or $10, while those are $7, so maybe, just maybe, the price did have something to do?
Heh, sorry I pretty much ASSUME we get ripped with £5 = $5 BS with regional pricing, these days!
"Tommo is truly passionate"
Enough said.

And Linux too? Humongous/Gog/Linux in some months? Just shat my pants :P
If one were to pick up one of these games, which would one pick up?
Wow, if GOG rejected those games, they really don't know about the direction they are going.


it's just the matter that Good Old Games is still something that identify GOG. It's not only DRM free, but also old games. If they forget about "old", then they become just another DD service, and the only difference will be "DRM free".
Post edited April 17, 2014 by SLP2000
Yeah, the regular price is 7 EUR over here and that would be close to $10. And there's a lot of HE games, more than Sierra or D&D games (almost enough to form their own category), and GOG's release schedule is slow. Maybe they just couldn't imagine that it would pay off for them to 'flood' the GOG catalogue with 27 individual HE releases and sell them at $10 each? I'd assume they had rather bundled the games by character and sold e.g. 2-3 Putt-Putt bundles for $10 each, like they did with the Sierra games, maybe also expecting the HE games to be less popular than the Sierra games in general?

In any case, I could relate to that to some extent, but I still think that it's a shame that these good old games are making a comeback on Steam now first instead of GOG, and I can understand why tfishell is so disappointed. And if that's truly the reason why they aren't here, would it really hurt Nightdive, Tommo and GOG to at least put a few select titles here to see how well or badly they'd actually sell under these conditions?
Post edited April 17, 2014 by Leroux
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Leroux: Yeah, the regular price is 7 EUR over here and that would be close to $10. And there's a lot of HE games, more than Sierra or D&D games (almost enough to form their own category), and GOG's release schedule is slow. Maybe they just couldn't imagine that it would pay off for them to 'flood' the GOG catalogue with 27 individual HE releases and sell them at $10 each? I'd assume they had rather bundled the games by character and sold e.g. 2-3 Putt-Putt bundles for $10 each, like they did with the Sierra games, maybe also expecting the HE games to be less popular than the Sierra games in general?

In any case, I could relate to that to some extent, but I still think that it's a shame that these good old games are debuting with their re-release on Steam now instead of GOG, and I can understand why tfishell is so disappointed. And if that's truly the reason why they aren't here, would it really hurt Nightdive, Tommo and GOG to at least put a few select titles here to see how well or badly they'd actually sell under these conditions?
This makes the most sense. There seems to be a LOT of these, I bet GOG wanted to bundle them.
[shaking head in disbelief]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rPHi4HjgSs
Post edited April 17, 2014 by tburger
I don't think GOG didn't agree with the prices. If Steam has the same prices nobody would complain. It still better than nothing. There are many game here which aren't right priced, for ex. Heroes of Might and Magic 1 at 10$. Why would you buy it when for the same price you could get the vastly superior Heroes 2 or 3?

Perhaps the games don't meet the quality requirements (full of bugs). Steam has some old games that shouldn't be sold on that stance. On Commandos BEL the soldiers are on fast-forward, they are running instead of walking. What the hell is that?

Or pehaps Tommo doesn't want to sell them on GOG, but this is strange. Tommo and Nordic Games are GOG's best partners right now.
Well they're out and i'm usually not one to complain, but come on...
46€ for 9 ~1 hour long, 11 to 22 year old games is waaaaay too much. I'm waiting for a bundle or a 80%+ sale with this one.
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I haven't played any of them, but if they're indeed very short games of more than ten years ago, then releasing them in packages priced at $9.99 (maybe even at $5.99 for some?) sounds the better way to go.
Seeing how they're priced on Steam, it does not seem unlikely that the involved parties could not/ would not agree on the way and price to release them on GOG. Maybe if they sell poorly on Steam, Tommo & Nightdive would reconsider and come to an agreement with GOG?
To be completely honest, I haven't even heard of these games before, and I think of myself as a point & click adventure fan. Maybe they were never released in here? Nevertheless, I can't say I'm highly interested, it seems the major thing these games have going for them is the "CHILDHOOD RESTORED!" factor. That's all fine and dandy, but I'm getting a bit tired of 30-40 years old manchildren collecting games just because they played them when they were kids "and now there's nothing quite like it".

These games add nothing to people who missed them, I can't say that, as someone who didn't got to play them, I would be interested in having the chance to do so.

My guess is that these titles won't fare that well on Steam, not for the price they're selling them at, and not with the general Steam user-base. Eventually they'll come to GOG, I wouldn't fret much, we're still the place in which you find the most nostalgia-driven gamers per capita, and there's surely higher interest in the Humongous games than on Steam.
Post edited April 17, 2014 by groze
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GabiMoro: ...
Perhaps the games don't meet the quality requirements (full of bugs). Steam has some old games that shouldn't be sold on that stance.
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I'd doubt this was the case. All but a few of these games run pretty flawlessly in ScummVM.
For the record, imo I do think asking $10 per game would be too much, but I think 5.99 would be reasonable + discounts for purchasing multiple games.