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ErekoseDM: im part of that 1% who missed this on humble bundle before (was it a BTA game or something)(ive missed loads of these things).

this is great news if some of their other titles pop up weekly and i can get them DRM-free off humblebundle for $0.01

hopefully DRM-free weeklys for $0.01 on humble show up for Aquaria + Dungeons of Dredmor.
Good for you.
The rest of us can just ignore humbles attempt at a store front then.....
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OmegaX: This may be the end of Indie Game Stand.
The regular humble indie bundle was the start of a million copycat bundles. How would them copying IGS bring about its demise?
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OmegaX: This may be the end of Indie Game Stand.
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kalirion: The regular humble indie bundle was the start of a million copycat bundles. How would them copying IGS bring about its demise?
Sidenote - Steam was first, Rosen copied the indie bundles they started with :)
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Fictionvision: The market being flooded with bundles and promotions will lead to buyer fatigue and disinterest. Also, and I admit to being guilty of it, people try to keep up with them and eventually realize they have bought so many cheap games that they will never get around to playing them all. So people become less willing to buy the next thing that comes along as they know it will likely sit on the hard drive and never be played.
I reached this stage, but I think that for a lot of people (those who play more) that won't be the case. Even for me, I'm still buying the occasional game even though I hardly play. Although I did move from paying a significant sum for bundles to paying the minimum or close to it.

Still, I think that the market is big enough to sustain this for a while. I'm looking at Steam promotions or Steam Gifts giveaways, and people still buy or enter for games which you'd have thought that everyone already has.

As for Bastion, I'm not sure whether to buy it or wait for the Android release, where I'm more likely to play it.
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kalirion: The regular humble indie bundle was the start of a million copycat bundles. How would them copying IGS bring about its demise?
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amok: Sidenote - Steam was first, Rosen copied the indie bundles they started with :)
How was Steam first? It took them a longtime to start getting indie games alone onto the platform....
I really don't see the humble store and indiegamestand conflicting. I think they both rather fish in a pond that is willing to invest in both.
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amok: Sidenote - Steam was first, Rosen copied the indie bundles they started with :)
When did Steam ever have PWYW bundles?
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Wishbone: snip
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nijuu: snip
maybe not PWYW, but for indie bundle sales, Steam was first. Rosen told about it in a interview somewhere that he got the idea for HiB after he and (I think) the devs behind Natural Selection, had a discussion based on the sales they had after Steam includee their games part of a bundle sale. So, it depends how you see it - if we are talking selling indie bundles cheaply, Steam was the first one, even though they did not use the PWYW model.


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nijuu: How was Steam first? It took them a longtime to start getting indie games alone onto the platform....
Steam and Valve have supported indie games for years before HiB was conceived...
Post edited March 20, 2013 by amok
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amok: Sidenote - Steam was first, Rosen copied the indie bundles they started with :)
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nijuu: How was Steam first? It took them a longtime to start getting indie games alone onto the platform....
$30 for 10 indie games is a bit different from $0.01+ for 5-6 indie games.
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amok: maybe not PWYW, but for indie bundle sales, Steam was first. Rosen told about it in a interview somewhere that he got the idea for HiB after he and (I think) the devs behind Natural Selection, had a discussion based on the sales they had after Steam includee their games part of a bundle sale. So, it depends how you see it - if we are talking selling indie bundles cheaply, Steam was the first one, even though they did not use the PWYW model.

Steam and Valve have supported indie games for years before HiB was conceived...
Interestingly, the price point for indie bundles on Steam got quite a bit higher after the first few bundles, IIRC. There were some €4,50 bundles (5 games each) during some sale, and I bought some of those. The bundles that came afterwards were not as good, imho.
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OmegaX: This may be the end of Indie Game Stand.
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kalirion: The regular humble indie bundle was the start of a million copycat bundles. How would them copying IGS bring about its demise?
Maybe not the end but you gotta admit it is much more attractive for developers to try to get in a humble weekly sale than to get on IGS. Many devs don't have a chance to get on a HIB because their games are not cross-platform but the Humble Store does sell some games which are Windows only (soulcaster, escape goat, etc). I'm assuming ANY game on the Humble Store can be featured in a weekly sale and they are not being too picky with which games can be on the store.
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amok: maybe not PWYW, but for indie bundle sales, Steam was first. Rosen told about it in a interview somewhere that he got the idea for HiB after he and (I think) the devs behind Natural Selection, had a discussion based on the sales they had after Steam includee their games part of a bundle sale. So, it depends how you see it - if we are talking selling indie bundles cheaply, Steam was the first one, even though they did not use the PWYW model.

Steam and Valve have supported indie games for years before HiB was conceived...
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etna87: Interestingly, the price point for indie bundles on Steam got quite a bit higher after the first few bundles, IIRC. There were some €4,50 bundles (5 games each) during some sale, and I bought some of those. The bundles that came afterwards were not as good, imho.
The only $5 bundles on Steam I recall came after the first couple indie bundles.
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amok: maybe not PWYW, but for indie bundle sales, Steam was first. Rosen told about it in a interview somewhere that he got the idea for HiB after he and (I think) the devs behind Natural Selection, had a discussion based on the sales they had after Steam includee their games part of a bundle sale. So, it depends how you see it - if we are talking selling indie bundles cheaply, Steam was the first one, even though they did not use the PWYW model.

Steam and Valve have supported indie games for years before HiB was conceived...
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etna87: Interestingly, the price point for indie bundles on Steam got quite a bit higher after the first few bundles, IIRC. There were some €4,50 bundles (5 games each) during some sale, and I bought some of those. The bundles that came afterwards were not as good, imho.
Cant remember any of those bundles.How far back was it?.
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etna87: Interestingly, the price point for indie bundles on Steam got quite a bit higher after the first few bundles, IIRC. There were some €4,50 bundles (5 games each) during some sale, and I bought some of those. The bundles that came afterwards were not as good, imho.
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nijuu: Cant remember any of those bundles.How far back was it?.
There seems to be some interest in this, so I googled a bit.
I managed to dig up this thread, where it is mentioned that the bundles were available during the Christmas sale 2010:
http://www.steamgifts.com/forum/V1889/new-indie-bundles-from-steam
it links to this picture showing the bundles:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_asQR9kXqFmU/TREgvfm7hdI/AAAAAAAACzk/m4fkDfPGEl0/s1600/SteamIndieSales.jpg

edit: And I'm not sure if those were the first Indie bundles on Steam, but they were the first that I remember. And I think they were pretty cool...
Post edited March 20, 2013 by etna87
Okay, I bought Bastion, and it pisses me off before I played even a second of it. First, it doesn't give me an .exe-installer, but instead a .msi, that installs three other .msi files without it won't work.

After that, I finally start the game, and the entire shit is in German. I didn't ask the game to play in German, it didn't say anything about German in the Installer, and there isn't any option in the menu to change it. What the fuck?!

Short version: Is there a way to change the language?