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Posted August 16, 2014
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Crewdroog: Very cool. It makes me think of Archimedes. He was so close to developing calculus (if memory serves). Can you imagine how much further we would be if he had? His last words, supposedly, to the invading soldiers that barged into his home and killed him were, "don't disturb my circles".
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iippo: I was actually going to write a word about him bit later :)
yay! I look forward to reading it :)
Posted August 16, 2014
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iippo: When thinking about mathematics and physics - Just how dark was the Dark age?

Example 1: Antikythera Mechanism aka Worlds first analog computer (astronomical). (no, you cant play GOG games on it)

Found in bottom of the sea around 1900 in Antikythera and was dated back to between 150-100 BC. So over 2100 years old. The second time something like this was done in the 14th century. Mere 1500 years gap.

What it looks like atm: foto

Replica: [url=http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/Images/countries/Greek%20pics/antikythera%20front.jpg]foto2

Very interesting documentary on it
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Crewdroog: Very cool. It makes me think of Archimedes. He was so close to developing calculus (if memory serves). Can you imagine how much further we would be if he had? His last words, supposedly, to the invading soldiers that barged into his home and killed him were, "don't disturb my circles".
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Ragnarblackmane: If you haven't watched the BBC Miniseries I, Claudius yet, you are missing out. It's awesome and features Sir Derek Jacobi and Brian "Why the hell is he not a Sir yet?!" Blessed, as well as many others including Sir Patrick "Bald is Badass" Stewart .

John Hurt gives a wonderfully deranged performance as Caligula too.
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Crewdroog: i will look into this :)
A stupid Roman soldier...fucked everything up. Why did he have to kill Archimedes? The guy was close to creating robots! Robots during a time, most humans were nothing more than savages. It's sad that all it takes is one douche bag with a sword and no more steam punk mech warrior future..
Post edited August 16, 2014 by monkeydelarge
Posted August 16, 2014
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Crewdroog: Very cool. It makes me think of Archimedes. He was so close to developing calculus (if memory serves). Can you imagine how much further we would be if he had? His last words, supposedly, to the invading soldiers that barged into his home and killed him were, "don't disturb my circles".

i will look into this :)
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monkeydelarge: A stupid Roman soldier...fucked everything up. Why did he have to kill Archimedes? The guy was close to creating robots! Robots during a time, most humans were nothing more than savages. It's sad that all it takes is one douche bag with a sword and no more steam punk mech warrior future..
are you referring to the lion? I don't know if I am remembering correctly, but didn't he come up with some sort of mechanized lion?
Posted August 16, 2014
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monkeydelarge: A stupid Roman soldier...fucked everything up. Why did he have to kill Archimedes? The guy was close to creating robots! Robots during a time, most humans were nothing more than savages. It's sad that all it takes is one douche bag with a sword and no more steam punk mech warrior future..
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Crewdroog: are you referring to the lion? I don't know if I am remembering correctly, but didn't he come up with some sort of mechanized lion?
I read in a book, he came up with and made all kinds of mechanized things. Lions, people, everything. They were used mostly to entertain people during plays. It wasn't just stupidity that made the Roman soldier, gut Archimedes like a fish. It was his Roman beliefs too. The Romans believed everything non Roman = garbage.
Post edited August 16, 2014 by monkeydelarge
Posted August 16, 2014
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monkeydelarge: I read in a book, he came up with and made all kinds of mechanized things. Lions, people, everything. They were used mostly to entertain people during plays. It wasn't just stupidity that made the Roman soldier, gut Archimedes like a fish. It was his Roman beliefs too. The Romans believed everything non Roman = garbage.
And what have the Romans ever done for us? ;)
Posted August 16, 2014
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Spinorial: And what have the Romans ever done for us? ;)
"Well besides building the roads and schools and...etc" I love that part of the movie, had to come in and quote:).
Posted August 17, 2014
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awalterj: Sometimes, history is a mystery.

I highly recommend reading Gerion Goldmann's autobiography "The Shadow of His Wings". I had to laugh out loudly several times while reading that book, some of the events in there sound completely and utterly unbelievable. It is a true mystery to me how Goldmann made it through WW2 without being killed (trolling the SS and things like that), of course he himself explains it with the power of prayer and God's will, but for those of us who don't have such faith his story sounds near impossible to comprehend. His story checks out however, plenty of evidence to back up what happened, it's the how that is astonishing.

Possibly the best book I ever read, you just can't beat real stories or hope to make up stuff like that.
Glad to here this is a good book. I've got it sitting near my bed with a couple other books in line before it.
Posted August 17, 2014
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monkeydelarge: I read in a book, he came up with and made all kinds of mechanized things. Lions, people, everything. They were used mostly to entertain people during plays. It wasn't just stupidity that made the Roman soldier, gut Archimedes like a fish. It was his Roman beliefs too. The Romans believed everything non Roman = garbage.
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Spinorial: And what have the Romans ever done for us? ;)
Who needs plumbing. :P We can just fling poo at each other once or twice a day between our steam punk giant robot battles. :P
Post edited August 17, 2014 by monkeydelarge
Posted August 17, 2014
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iippo: When thinking about mathematics and physics - Just how dark was the Dark age?

Example 1: Antikythera Mechanism aka Worlds first analog computer (astronomical). (no, you cant play GOG games on it)

Found in bottom of the sea around 1900 in Antikythera and was dated back to between 150-100 BC. So over 2100 years old. The second time something like this was done in the 14th century. Mere 1500 years gap.

What it looks like atm: foto

Replica: [url=http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/Images/countries/Greek%2520pics/antikythera%2520front.jpg]foto2

Very interesting documentary on it
Actually funnily enough I first really heard about that in Terry Jones' excellent Barbarians documentary series,
Part Three:The Brainy Barbarians
Definitely recommended viewing for anyone interested in history that doesn't revolve around the accepted generic view.
Post edited August 17, 2014 by Ragnarblackmane
Posted August 17, 2014
Just how dark was the Dark age? #2

There are some very cool looking churches, especially as the dark ages go on and they arent build like castles, but so the Greek could build some seriously cool temples, which also had:

-Lightning strikes (Zeus call home)
-Huge chariots that levitate
-Holy water vending machines (yes, with coins)
-Statues that cry blood
-Statues which drink from the priests hand
-Statues that dance
-Doors that open and close according to sacrificial fires
...and so on

I think its pretty clear who has the edge here ;)

More at Machine of God's
Posted August 17, 2014
Romani ite domum :)
Posted August 17, 2014
I tell you all the ancient arts are due to MU
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(lost_continent]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(lost_continent[/url])
Post edited August 18, 2014 by djranis
Posted August 17, 2014
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djranis: I tell you all the ancient arts are due to MU
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(lost_continent]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(lost_continent[/url])
btw you link has "lost" a ) -mark at the end (its no in the link)
Posted August 18, 2014
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djranis: I tell you all the ancient arts are due to MU
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(lost_continent]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(lost_continent[/url])
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iippo: btw you link has "lost" a ) -mark at the end (its no in the link)
i tried to fix it still seems to be lost link, i guess MU's where meant to be lost
Posted August 20, 2014
Psst...hey you, yeah you! Ever want to read the seminal historical document on the first half of the Hundred Year's War written by the Frenchman Jan Froissart? You do? Well ok...here it is...


The Online Froissart
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