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Kleetus: Feminism is sexist, it's all about promoting the one gender.

If it were really about equality they would also promote men's issues, but I've yet to hear a feminist do so.
Hah, it's already extremely clear to me that this is pointless.
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SirPrimalform: Hah, it's already extremely clear to me that this is pointless.
It's already extremely clear to me that when people are challenged about feminism they simply back away or refuse to debate.

If feminism wasn't sexist then why don't you hear feminazis ever promoting men's issues, like the much higher suicide rate, higher homelessness, lower life expectancy, less money spent on men's health care and so on?

The very word itself, feminism, is sexist and divisive.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3686998/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Pill

The Red Pill chronicles Jaye's journey beginning as a skeptical feminist investigating what she believes to be a hate movement. She goes on to discover that the movement is different from what she expected and begins to question her own views on gender, power, and privilege. The film discusses issues facing men and boys such as male suicide rates, workplace fatalities and high-risk jobs, military conscription, lack of services for male victims of domestic violence and rape, higher rates of violent victimization, issues concerning divorce and child custody, disparity in criminal sentencing, disproportionate funding and research on men's health issues, educational inequality, societal tolerance of misandry, circumcision and men's lack of reproductive rights.
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLzeakKC6fE
Post edited November 20, 2017 by Klumpen0815
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Kleetus: It's already extremely clear to me that when people are challenged about feminism they simply back away or refuse to debate.

If feminism wasn't sexist then why don't you hear feminazis ever promoting men's issues, like the much higher suicide rate, higher homelessness, lower life expectancy, less money spent on men's health care and so on?

The very word itself, feminism, is sexist and divisive.
I don't hear feminazis saying anything. I do however hear feminists speaking plenty about all kinds of issues. You should get out and talk to people, you'd be surprised.

The problem here is that you have a preconceived notion of feminists as some kind of bogeyman, that is why this is pointless. I'm out.
Post edited November 20, 2017 by SirPrimalform
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SirPrimalform: I do however hear feminists speaking plenty about all kinds of issues.
They speak about all kinds of issues, all kinds of women's issues.

All they ever do is whine about how women are worse off when the reality is quite the opposite.
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SirPrimalform: I do however hear feminists speaking plenty about all kinds of issues.
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Kleetus: They speak about all kinds of issues, all kinds of women's issues.

All they ever do is whine about how women are worse off when the reality is quite the opposite.
As I said, you're clearly a lost cause. I'm out.
There are many very good companies few people know.

In these companies you can work at whatever time you like, wear whatever you like to work, even sleeping pajamas.

You can work as hard or as lazy as you want.

You can work as many hours as you like.

You can take leave anytime you want, as long as you like, even the entire duration when you are hired by the company.

You can be lousy at your job.

You can scold or hit your boss whenever you feel like it.

You can take orders from your boss if you like, you can also ignore orders, in fact you can even order your boss around.

And the company have to use the absolute majority of its profit to pay you.

And the company can hardly afford to fire you because the government is on your side.

If your boss decide to fire you, or you resign, your boss have to give half of his company share to you. You boss will be force to pay your salary even when you no longer works for the company.

What? You think it is such mythical companies that only exist in fantasy? Look at your neighborhood. There are hundreds, even thousands of such companies in the urban area. Your neighbors open such companies. You are the product of such company. Half the world population are probably in such companies.

Isn’t it great to work for such companies? The downside is, if you have something hanging between your legs, you are force to be the boss.

Because these companies are so profitable to the government, when less companies open to hire employees, the government starts making interviewee / internship having the same rights as employers and force the boss to open such companies.

Even now any potential candidate can get a share of the company’s profit when the boss is not careful in creating his product.

And interviewee turn down can get revenge on the boss by making a false accusation on the boss. It does not matter if she is found to be lying, there are no punishment.

Boss all beware, please be aware, the rest of your life hinge on these knowledge. The government, mass media, various organization would lie to you about the existence of these slave boss companies. They would like you to think that slavery has ended when it is not. They would twist slavery and present it as heroism, man up, necessity in life, every slave is doing it why not you?

Don't get married, have no problem. Most of men problems stems from signing away their power in the slave contract.


http://www.ieyenews.com/wordpress/the-big-business-of-divorce/
Post edited November 20, 2017 by Gnostic
Well, yes, as a man there is absolutely zero incentive to get married. There is really nothing at all to gain that one doesn't already have and the potential for losing something is both real and high. In the long run I fear this is a problem for all of us, both men and women.
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Alaric.us: Well, yes, as a man there is absolutely zero incentive to get married. There is really nothing at all to gain that one doesn't already have and the potential for losing something is both real and high. In the long run I fear this is a problem for all of us, both men and women.
I can think of a few advantages (at least in the US):

* If you are working, but your husband isn't (or vice versa), you don't pay as much in taxes.
* If you are in the hospital, your husband can visit you and make decisions for you.
* If you are not yet 24 years old, marriage allows you to apply for the FAFSA (for financial aid for college) without needing your parents' financial information (particularly handy if your parents are wealthy and/or abusive).
* If you die, your husband can inherit your property without having to pay an estate tax (and vice versa).
* If your husband is working and gets insurance through work, you can get coverage from his insurance.
* If your husband is not a US citizen but you are, you can sponsor his immigration to the US.

(Note that the language in this post assume that you are marrying another man; the same benefits apply if you are marrying a woman, if you are a woman, or both, or if either of you is non-binary.)
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dtgreene: I can think of a few advantages (at least in the US):

* If you are working, but your husband isn't (or vice versa), you don't pay as much in taxes.
* If you are in the hospital, your husband can visit you and make decisions for you.
* If you are not yet 24 years old, marriage allows you to apply for the FAFSA (for financial aid for college) without needing your parents' financial information (particularly handy if your parents are wealthy and/or abusive).
* If you die, your husband can inherit your property without having to pay an estate tax (and vice versa).
* If your husband is working and gets insurance through work, you can get coverage from his insurance.
* If your husband is not a US citizen but you are, you can sponsor his immigration to the US.

(Note that the language in this post assume that you are marrying another man; the same benefits apply if you are marrying a woman, if you are a woman, or both, or if either of you is non-binary.)
All of this is true. All of these gains are also incredibly insignificant compared to the potential loss. In the world of today (at least in the United States) marriage is bad risk management so far as a man is concerned. It is an excellent risk management for a woman, however. I feel like there should be a middle ground where both parties carry the same amount of risk and reward potential.

The interests of women must be protected, this is where the current laws arise from. It was a very bad practice when I man could marry a woman, use her and toss her out with nothing at all once he was bored with her. I think we are all glad that this is no longer the case. However, in trying to fix a serious problem we seem to have over-corrected. To me right now marriage makes about as much sense as playing the lottery, replying to Mr. Zogabi Lumumba's (a barrister) emails or playing Russian roulette.
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Fairfox: Yah I've found this forum to be really skewed on these type o' issues, descendin' into plain nasty 'n' ugly at tiemz. I don't really debate these sort o' thangs anyhoohar but I'd never dream to here.
Damn, still getting notifications. Yeah, seems to be pretty prevalent amongst 'gamers' in general. I guess this is why I don't identify as a gamer.
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dtgreene: I can think of a few advantages (at least in the US):

* If you are working, but your husband isn't (or vice versa), you don't pay as much in taxes.
* If you are in the hospital, your husband can visit you and make decisions for you.
* If you are not yet 24 years old, marriage allows you to apply for the FAFSA (for financial aid for college) without needing your parents' financial information (particularly handy if your parents are wealthy and/or abusive).
* If you die, your husband can inherit your property without having to pay an estate tax (and vice versa).
* If your husband is working and gets insurance through work, you can get coverage from his insurance.
* If your husband is not a US citizen but you are, you can sponsor his immigration to the US.

(Note that the language in this post assume that you are marrying another man; the same benefits apply if you are marrying a woman, if you are a woman, or both, or if either of you is non-binary.)
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Alaric.us: All of this is true. All of these gains are also incredibly insignificant compared to the potential loss. In the world of today (at least in the United States) marriage is bad risk management so far as a man is concerned. It is an excellent risk management for a woman, however. I feel like there should be a middle ground where both parties carry the same amount of risk and reward potential.

The interests of women must be protected, this is where the current laws arise from. It was a very bad practice when I man could marry a woman, use her and toss her out with nothing at all once he was bored with her. I think we are all glad that this is no longer the case. However, in trying to fix a serious problem we seem to have over-corrected. To me right now marriage makes about as much sense as playing the lottery, replying to Mr. Zogabi Lumumba's (a barrister) emails or playing Russian roulette.
So long as it is profitable the law won't change.

Women pay negative net tax, so as a group the government have little to squeeze out of a woman. Men on the other hand......
They will keep the scam going until the pyramid scheme crumbles and women reputation credit card is overdraft.

http://judgybitch.com/2016/08/16/reblog-research-find-that-as-a-group-only-men-pay-tax/
Post edited November 20, 2017 by Gnostic
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dtgreene: If you die, your husband can inherit your property
Don't need to get married for that, a defacto or domestic partner has the same rights legally as a spouse in a lot of countries.

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Alaric.us: All of this is true.
I think you've got the hots for Deatrice.

DT Alaric even has a nice ring to it, or maybe Alaric.dt.
Post edited November 20, 2017 by Kleetus
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Kleetus: If it were really about equality they would also promote men's issues, but I've yet to hear a feminist do so.
I've never understood this ridiculously moronic thinking. A group of people specifically suffering from an issue in society are selfish bastards for trying to fix it, UNLESS they also try to fix the problem for everybody else, including the very people inflicting the problem on them. Women have to fix men's problems, blacks have to fix whites' problems, gays have to fix straights' problems... what a glib way to insult and dismiss people while continuing to hate on them. : /