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oldwino: I am Beverly Hills. I have five brothers and a sister named Mandy.
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Hunter65536: And that is the same name/flavor as one of the characters in the older game, I've never known drealmer to shy away from a chance at showing his creativity. Not saying that there is no possibility of drealmer going with same name, but just seems less probable knowing him.
Eh. There you try a bit too hard to make something out of the name. So do you mean you suspect oldwino because he claimed a name that was present in the last game? Well, so was Henry Jenkins. And as a side note: my name also appears in the roster of the previous game. So drealmer is definitely recycling some names. But I gather from your reaction, that you have a name that didn't appear in the previous game? Is that right?

@oldwino: but there is one thing. In the previous game, Beverly Hills was scum. My alignment matches the alignment of the role with the same name in the last game. Now the big question is: is that the case for you too?

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RWarehall: ...
OK. I see. I don't necessarily agree with you, but I understand your reasoning. A point where I rather agree with trent is, that a list of names without any explanation is pointless.

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Sage103082: @lift and cspvg did I hear something about drinking? Im down. =)
Sure. Come over to my place. I have some very nice Whisky! Mostly scottish Single Malt, but also a good Burbon, if you prefer that.
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Lifthrasil: @oldwino: but there is one thing. In the previous game, Beverly Hills was scum. My alignment matches the alignment of the role with the same name in the last game. Now the big question is: is that the case for you too?
Mine matches too, I think oldwino slipped up and is scum.
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Hunter65536: And that is the same name/flavor as one of the characters in the older game, I've never known drealmer to shy away from a chance at showing his creativity. Not saying that there is no possibility of drealmer going with same name, but just seems less probable knowing him.
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Lifthrasil: Eh. There you try a bit too hard to make something out of the name. So do you mean you suspect oldwino because he claimed a name that was present in the last game? Well, so was Henry Jenkins. And as a side note: my name also appears in the roster of the previous game. So drealmer is definitely recycling some names. But I gather from your reaction, that you have a name that didn't appear in the previous game? Is that right?
Wasn't trying to make too much of it, just making an observation. Yeah, my name has changed. And it hasn't appeared in previous game at all.
vote count / votecount / vote-count / VC - 1.02
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medamiedo - 2 - Hunter65536, CSPVG,
Hunter65536 - 1 - medamiedo,
oldwino - 1 - trentonlf,
GammaEmerald - 1 - oldwino,
trentonlf - 1 - GammaEmerald,

not voting: Lifthrasil, QuadrAlien, RWarehall, Sage103082,

10 alive takes 6 to LYNCH

- if your vote is not on the player you want it to be, notify me
Post edited August 06, 2017 by drealmer7
Please copy and paste the rule set from post #2 in the admin thread.

It states clearly "The following rules cannot be overridden by individual moderators."

This means it's not open to interpretation but it's supposed to be listed and followed as is. Attempting to capture the heart of the rule isn't good enough. If you choose to add anything else it's up to you as moderator.
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Hunter65536: Wasn't trying to make too much of it, just making an observation. Yeah, my name has changed. And it hasn't appeared in previous game at all.
Interesting.

Now I'm waiting for a reply of oldwino.

Also it seems Quad hasn't reported in at all, so far. Let's hope that this is only the effect of starting the game on a weekend, and not the prelude to another lurky game.

@Quad: come play with us!
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Lifthrasil: @oldwino: but there is one thing. In the previous game, Beverly Hills was scum. My alignment matches the alignment of the role with the same name in the last game. Now the big question is: is that the case for you too?
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trentonlf: Mine matches too, I think oldwino slipped up and is scum.
I didn't look back to see if role alignments match the MS game or not. I just assumed characters and roles were randomly assigned so by chance, some will match and some will not. Otherwise, I wouldn't have revealed my character flavor. No way drealmer would match roles and characters the same way in both games, that would make sorting town and scum too easy. Anyone saying the roles and characters match across the two games, rather than being random, is looking for excuses to claim town for themselves and say others are scum. That makes those players suspicious.
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(because you need that many o's)

Vote: oldwino
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trentonlf: Mine matches too, I think oldwino slipped up and is scum.
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oldwino: I didn't look back to see if role alignments match the MS game or not. I just assumed characters and roles were randomly assigned so by chance, some will match and some will not. Otherwise, I wouldn't have revealed my character flavor.
So, to do an evil condensation of what you wrote: you didn't check the previous role alignments ... otherwise you wouldn't have revealed your role name? (Isn't it fascinating how the sound of a statement changes, when you remove one sentence? )

OK. It is possible, even probable, that drealmer changed the alignments of some roles/names if possible (there are some roles that are very unlikely to be scum). So your name alone isn't reason enough to lynch you, I think. But you have to admit that it looks like a possibility that your name revealing might be a scum slip. Scum, who didn't check the previous game and therefore didn't attach much importance to the name and thought he could look towny by sharing some information he thought to be non-incriminating.

Of course no one but drealmer can know if all role/name/alignment combinations match. So it would be dangerous and bad play to base this game solely on that assumption. What is, however, interesting are the reactions sparked by this discussion and your reveal:
Trent's push following your percieved possible slip seems a bit too eager. But ignoring the possibility of a slip would be very bad play too. So your statement that 'anyone saying the roles and characters match across the two games' ... is suspicious, is way too strong too. I kind of looks like an over-reaction on your side. Especially since I know for a fact that the entire name/role/alignment combination matches in at least one case.

Now, the big question is who of you two is scum. Is trent over-eager town going for a percieved slip? Actually being over-eager can happen to trent... Or is he scum going for an easy target after a careless statement? And are you scum who did slip? Or are you town who is over-defensive?

@All: what do you think? And where are you all? ... Time zone differences suck!
hardclaim masons with rware

*lift

not rware

I meant to say rware is scum and I'm masons with LIFTHRASIL
Post edited August 07, 2017 by medamiedo
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medamiedo: hardclaim masons with rware

*lift

not rware

I meant to say rware is scum and I'm masons with LIFTHRASIL
And that is a lie. I don't know why you would make up something like that, but Lynch All Liars.

vote medamiedo
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medamiedo: hardclaim masons with rware

*lift

not rware

I meant to say rware is scum and I'm masons with LIFTHRASIL
Are you alright? Need someone to call help? You seem to be having issues with remembering. Or your just spouting off nonsense. Why? to get people talking? I don't see how your post would do that so no for me. To bring attention to yourself? Why? So another no for me. So I don't know but I know I do not like liars. And I have to agree with Lift here.

vote medamiedo
Grabbing the popcorn for this one...
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RWarehall: Grabbing the popcorn for this one...
what do you make of medas statements?
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medamiedo: hardclaim masons with rware

*lift

not rware

I meant to say rware is scum and I'm masons with LIFTHRASIL
That was totally random and came out of nowhere, what was your objective in doing that?