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30 posts in and I've already been accused of being scum by 3 people. Not sure what the heck I'm doing to put off a scum vibe this game but I am not scum, all I care about is finding who did this to David and helping Henry. If I am actually scum anytime in a game I think I am going to just sit back and post as little as possible on Day 1 so a Townie gets lynched because it sure does seem like that's the way to play it.
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trentonlf: You missed the point of my question, I was asking you what you meant by the random list of names. A list with no reference is rather pointless to anyone other than the person who made the list wouldn't you say?
I mean, I think it's kinda obviously a readslist :P

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trentonlf: I have not read the previous iteration of this game that drealmer has run, but if the names are the same and whatever roles if any the names had then it would be a bad idea to share names because then scum could just go read the other game and know any power roles we had and who had them. So I think sharing names is a bad idea.
It's semi-open; roles aren't the same.
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Lifthrasil: Should we share our names? NOT the roles, of course, just the role names.
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CSPVG: You feeling alright there, ole friend? Names, ya say? Why, there ain't a person in this room whose face I can't place. Heck, even down in town and amongst the hillfolk, there is nought one more than fiddy of us. You telling me you can't as remember all of them names as is in this room? Have you been into the drink again?

My, my, ya'll are as quiet as a Yukon goldman after a bad season. Smell twice as pleasant, though. Maybe we should all take a sip all two of something extra special, as to make us all a bit more open.

I do take after my friend's meaning that we know one another very little, though - after what happened to poor David. You live in a place all your life, and you think those that stay around you are good and pleasant people - sure, our sorta community attracts the attention of a few bad seeds. You're always gunna, when there's gold involved, but there ain't so much - even in the Jenkin's damned, and do parden my language, seam - gold up here as to drive people to be devils. Only wretched fools would do that.

Ain't much to go on though, but I'm gunna have to say that I...

Vote: medamiedo

Man rambles like a snake preacher. All fire, but not saying much. What's this 'bout chainsaws?
LOL

(Also not a man.)

LMAO not a single response from Hunter. Hunter/trent... maybe a third?
Post edited August 06, 2017 by medamiedo
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trentonlf: 30 posts in and I've already been accused of being scum by 3 people. Not sure what the heck I'm doing to put off a scum vibe this game but I am not scum, all I care about is finding who did this to David and helping Henry. If I am actually scum anytime in a game I think I am going to just sit back and post as little as possible on Day 1 so a Townie gets lynched because it sure does seem like that's the way to play it.
Btw if this is genuine frustration trent /me hugs, don't be sad! It's just a silly game! :)
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GammaEmerald: This feels like scum put on edge by early accusations that seems serious
Vote: Trent
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trentonlf: I see you still don't read what's been posted, might take a gander at the post above yours.
I still think it's the case even if you had another reason for asking the question
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RWarehall: Unvote oldwino

My spider-sense is tingling. I think Trent's scum this game.
Why not vote him then?
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trentonlf: 30 posts in and I've already been accused of being scum by 3 people. Not sure what the heck I'm doing to put off a scum vibe this game but I am not scum, all I care about is finding who did this to David and helping Henry. If I am actually scum anytime in a game I think I am going to just sit back and post as little as possible on Day 1 so a Townie gets lynched because it sure does seem like that's the way to play it.
Um you actually did fairly well in the scumteam unpick game. I only FOSed you at the end (was speccing) because of associatives with the flipped scum.
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medamiedo: LMAO not a single response from Hunter. Hunter/trent... maybe a third?
There's a post of mine 3 posts above yours but if you'd be kind enough to tell me something specific I should respond to I'd be happy to do so.

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trentonlf: I see you still don't read what's been posted, might take a gander at the post above yours.
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GammaEmerald: I still think it's the case even if you had another reason for asking the question
I haven't played here as much recently so I don't remember exactly but a readslist could go in several ways correct? (Most scummy to least scummy, least scummy to most scummy, or categorised based on possible town, scum or uncertain alignment) Could you explain the ulterior motive Trent had in asking what a readslist was implying?
He felt like he was unsure of what to do after having been voted so soon. It just doubled as "what is this?".
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GammaEmerald: He felt like he was unsure of what to do after having been voted so soon. It just doubled as "what is this?".
Seems valid but that was still RVS so you think he'd take something seriously so early? People often throw around votes in RVS for the heck of it.
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trentonlf: 30 posts in and I've already been accused of being scum by 3 people. Not sure what the heck I'm doing to put off a scum vibe this game but I am not scum, all I care about is finding who did this to David and helping Henry. If I am actually scum anytime in a game I think I am going to just sit back and post as little as possible on Day 1 so a Townie gets lynched because it sure does seem like that's the way to play it.
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medamiedo: Btw if this is genuine frustration trent /me hugs, don't be sad! It's just a silly game! :)
I am not sad, just very frustrated. I'm also not frustrated with you, just at the fact of being suspected out of nowhere when I'm not scum.

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GammaEmerald: He felt like he was unsure of what to do after having been voted so soon. It just doubled as "what is this?".
LOL. I assure you if I was scum any amount of votes on me would not bother me in the slightest. I still have no idea what issue you, meda, or RW is seeing with me either.
My, I see things ain't changed for ole Trent one bit. Always riling folks up, aye?

Can't say as I see what ya'll do in regards to ole Trent, nor that I'm too happy about responses from the talkative one. Nothin' 'bout them chainsaws, still, huh? Fair enough. Besides that, I was under the assumption that - and this sorta thing is frowned on, you don't have to tell me - that at least to some degree, we were bound to our stars, if you take my meaning.

Vote stays as is for the time being, seeing as I don't got no one better to stick it on.
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Lifthrasil: Should we share our names? NOT the roles, of course, just the role names.
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CSPVG: You feeling alright there, ole friend? Names, ya say? Why, there ain't a person in this room whose face I can't place. Heck, even down in town and amongst the hillfolk, there is nought one more than fiddy of us. You telling me you can't as remember all of them names as is in this room? Have you been into the drink again?

My, my, ya'll are as quiet as a Yukon goldman after a bad season. Smell twice as pleasant, though. Maybe we should all take a sip all two of something extra special, as to make us all a bit more open.

I do take after my friend's meaning that we know one another very little, though - after what happened to poor David. You live in a place all your life, and you think those that stay around you are good and pleasant people - sure, our sorta community attracts the attention of a few bad seeds. You're always gunna, when there's gold involved, but there ain't so much - even in the Jenkin's damned, and do parden my language, seam - gold up here as to drive people to be devils. Only wretched fools would do that.

Ain't much to go on though, but I'm gunna have to say that I...

Vote: medamiedo

Man rambles like a snake preacher. All fire, but not saying much. What's this 'bout chainsaws?
Well, I may be drunk from time to time, but I wonder what you have smoked! Stating you know every face and then accusing this fine lass here to be a man? Stay away from smoking your own mattress, man. Tobacco is better for your health!

But more seriously about the game: I don't see why you insist so ... insistently on making you vote on Hunter visible, meda. What is that? An attempt at distancing? Or something personal? Or are you a Lyncher? Or, if you are town, what makes Hunter so scummy to you, so early, that you have to vote for him several times?

@RW and others: and what makes trent scum? So far the only one appearing scummy to me is meda ... but she appeared very scummy in the last game too, throwing 'obvitown' and 'obviscum' around for no apparent reason. So looking scummy seems to be her thing and I'll wait for her explanation before voting.

@all: fine. Let's keep the names hidden for now. If they are just fluff, as Hunter concluded from the last game, it doesn't matter anyhow.
Gamma's right, we didn't play together before. He signed up for the last game I was in in MS then didn't confirm. But his is the only name I recognized. Just an RVS vote anyway.

I played in the first iteration of this game on MS and am certain from that game that character names/flavor have no relation to roles. Nor do roles here (town or scum) relate at all to the characters in the movie, Coal Miner's Daughter.

In the MS game, most players were reluctant to share names/flavor for fear that might reveal something about their role, so we played without much flavor until about half way through. I think the game would have been much more fun if we'd shared our character flavors and played as the characters, at least sometimes. This game has fewer players, so not all of the characters in that MS version will be present in this game, and roles shouldn't match characters from that game unless they do so randomly so reading that game won't help ID town or scum.

So I say let's share character names and flavor to make the game more fun.

I am Beverly Hills. I have five brothers and a sister named Mandy.
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oldwino: I am Beverly Hills. I have five brothers and a sister named Mandy.
And that is the same name/flavor as one of the characters in the older game, I've never known drealmer to shy away from a chance at showing his creativity. Not saying that there is no possibility of drealmer going with same name, but just seems less probable knowing him.
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Lifthrasil: @RW and others: and what makes trent scum? So far the only one appearing scummy to me is meda ... but she appeared very scummy in the last game too, throwing 'obvitown' and 'obviscum' around for no apparent reason. So looking scummy seems to be her thing and I'll wait for her explanation before voting.
It's the way he got defensive about being the bottom of Meda's first impression list. Post 15 is alright with a simple "Care to explain?", except that when Meda gives a short explanation Trent continues in post 25 and makes the accusation that his point was missed, even going so far as calling the list "random" and "pointless". Especially since he made such the point with those previous 3 words. Seems a bit overkill for this early in the game. Makes me wonder if Meda might have hit a mark...

And the follow-up to your question, Lift, comes off as "appearing" town for town points, yet how hard is it to do a real check of the last game's names and roles and give an informed explanation when he's around all weekend? There is a whiff of trying too hard telling us how Town he is, but not acting on it.

While I don't have a problem with not finding much value in early "first impression" lists or believing a name reveal is a bad idea, it's the way it was said. But, I didn't vote him yet. I don't think it's quite vote-worthy at this early stage of the game, just poke-worthy if that makes any sense. Plenty of other players haven't posted enough for me to get any sort of real impression, but those posts of his do concern me.
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Lifthrasil: Should we share our names? NOT the roles, of course, just the role names.
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CSPVG: You feeling alright there, ole friend? Names, ya say? Why, there ain't a person in this room whose face I can't place. Heck, even down in town and amongst the hillfolk, there is nought one more than fiddy of us. You telling me you can't as remember all of them names as is in this room? Have you been into the drink again?

My, my, ya'll are as quiet as a Yukon goldman after a bad season. Smell twice as pleasant, though. Maybe we should all take a sip all two of something extra special, as to make us all a bit more open.

I do take after my friend's meaning that we know one another very little, though - after what happened to poor David. You live in a place all your life, and you think those that stay around you are good and pleasant people - sure, our sorta community attracts the attention of a few bad seeds. You're always gunna, when there's gold involved, but there ain't so much - even in the Jenkin's damned, and do parden my language, seam - gold up here as to drive people to be devils. Only wretched fools would do that.

Ain't much to go on though, but I'm gunna have to say that I...

Vote: medamiedo

Man rambles like a snake preacher. All fire, but not saying much. What's this 'bout chainsaws?
Hello csvpg. Very nice to see you posting so I am removing my rsv voteUNVOTE CSPVG


(This quote keeps messing up so just going to copy it)

RW--- My spider-sense is tingling. I think Trent's scum this game.

GAMMA-Why not vote him then?

why push voting so early in the game?

@lift and cspvg did I hear something about drinking? Im down. =)
Ok, I went back and went over the setup of the game from the MS site and my name/ability here matches exactly what was used in that game.So I am not buying into revealing will not help ID town or scum, I think it will along with any roles town might have. So I think oldwino is on a fishing trip.

PLEASE NO MORE PM DISCUSSION!!

Unvote Hunter
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