Lifthrasil: What do you mean by 'masonize'? Usually Masons know each other at the start of the game. That's the point of that role. Do you mean to imply that you are
1. a Mason-Cult leader, who can invite other players into the Masonry?
2. you have Day-Actions?
3. and more than one attempt per Day at that?
I find that VERY hard to believe and it also raises an eyebrow, that Gamma took your quite unbelievable 'explanation' at face value.
Perhaps next time, before claiming a role, next time you should read up on what the role actually means and how it works:
Mason Of course it is possible that drealmer introduced some role that does not appear on MafiaWiki and called it Mason. But considering that drealmer explicitely stated that this would be a non-bastard game with no exaggerated shenaningans I find a Mason-Cult-Leader with multiple Day-Actions very very unlikely. It is much more likely that you are full of shit, tried some stupid gamble which failed and are scum or other anti-town.
Well I'm expecting her to say that mod messed up this time and "masonized" Gamma instead of Quad. :P
Well the thing is I've seen similar.
GammaEmerald: Oh. That's actually really cool. Didn't think we'd have a guilty d1, and kinda upset that we're already out of natural voting phase and into lynch the guilty phase. Still pretty fantastic.
Vote: Lifthrasil medamiedo: ???
There's no guilty on Lift. I don't know why my shot failed which is why I need him to claim his character name. As far as I know right now there's no relevance to Lift's alignment in my shot having failed.
Masons can't recruit mafia?
CSPVG: This young woman's action remind me of a gold miner as passed through these parts some years ago. Say, you know who your paw is, girl? Was his name something like Yog - What was the family surname again? Ah! - Sloth.
As for talkin' like this, why, I wish I could stop. No one likes being as simple as me, hun. When my ma and pa arrived from the old country, they brought a whole lot of things with them; song and stories, and furniture, and signs and items of protection as were supposed to prop them up in this new country and protect 'em from the things that lived in it. Protection musta only extended to them, as I weren't so lucky. You see, when I was nought but a babe, I was visited in my dreams by a great and shaggy purple green blur - somehow, it was supposed to represent some sorta duality, I think. Anyhow, he would loom over me, staring deeply into my eyes, sending all his energies my way. Long story short, he made me this way. I can't help it.
As for the current situation, as I see it, we're in a real pickle and there's nought we can do but follow one of two paths. Vote out meda/Quadr or Lifth. Now, I'm more prone to going for the former than the latter.
Why the former? Why would meda execute such a complicated plan as scum?
medamiedo: Lift, it's 1-shot and no it's not just neighborizer. Scum also may have strongarm; protection should absolutely be on Quadr and me tonight but there's no guarantee that it will actually do any good.
Arguing to lynch between two confirmed town slots is scummy as all get out because it's a self-resolving claim; scum will kill us or the PoE will be brutal for them - as it is there are only 8 slots now and 2, maybe 3 of them are scum.
I think you're probably town for the way you've responded here; I agree that Gamma feels like a lot like scum right now.
Basically disagree that CSPVG feels town at all; I think it's understandable that you might be sympathetic to his perspective but even if you argue that the stance itself isn't scummy, the way that he's gone about arguing it I think pretty clearly is; he's not contributed in any significant way, he hasn't argued why his stance is pro-town or explained his thoughts behind why he believes it to be optimal; feels a lot like opportunism. If you look at the actual substantive content from the slot there are about 6 lines and that's pretty much it; not interesting in letting him continue to fluff his way through the game unchecked.
What's your read on trent?
Not sure if targeting scum wouldn't have expended the shot. Can you ask what would have happened?
Lifthrasil: Concerning votes / scumreads: since my last reads nothing has happened to change them. Gamma hasn't even appeared yet. I really want an explanation of that vote. At the time, meda's story wasn't supported by Quad yet (quite the contrary) so meda was quite suspicous looking herself. But gamma seemed very eager to take her 'read' at face value. So, until I get an explanation for that:
vote GammaEmerald oldwino's vote on me makes much more sense, since I can see how from his point of view the failed mazonizing (if he chooses to believe meda) plus my refusal to claim makes me suspicious. Of course those are also very convenient points where scum could latch on to. So his read doesn't make him towny. But it doesn't make him scum either, since at least he is giving sensible sounding explanations for his vote.
one of meda/Quad (preferably meda, since she has already used up her PR shot, if her claim is true) would also still be an acceptable lynch for me. If they are telling the truth, we get one actually confirmed townie. If they are lying, we get two confirmed scum. So this would be a good deal, unless we decide that these two are absolutely trustworthy for some reason - and that decision is difficult without Quad actually contributing. So, again, Quad please stop fuming and resume playing!
Masonizer fails on mafia. It failed on you. If you want me to unvote, give a reason why masonizing you would have failed.
