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Crassmaster: This might be the single dumbest thing that I have ever read. Ever. Congratulations. You've managed to come off like a drama queen and a conspiracy-obsessed lunatic all at once.

Show me these threats of 'intimidation' from some secret cabal of censorship fanatics. Oh, that's right, it's all implied!
There's no secret cabal of censorship fanatics. They are quite open about wanting Hatred to not exist or at least not be published.

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Crassmaster: Oh, but people threatening to leave GOG if they don't decide to carry Hatred...that somehow isn't a threat, right? Somehow, that manages to be perfectly benign because REASONS.
It's not about being benign or not. It's about creating a multi-polar world where different interests have to be considered because both sides are malignant drama queens, instead of there being just one aggressive side that fulfils their objectives through being malignant drama queens.

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darkwolf777: So reviews and impressions are starting to roll in for Hatred, and it's pretty much exactly what I thought it'd be, a mediocre isometric shooter. Some interesting physics and destructible environments, but otherwise a boring, repetitive game. And apparently terribly optimized with framerate issues even on a GTX 980, with almost no difference between "Low" and "Ultra" settings.
I see. That's disappointing :( . So, there's a chance that GOG didn't accept it for performance issues. Since the developer perfectly knew about the issues when releasing the game, they aren't exactly a credible source of information for reasons for rejections. So, I can't boycott GOG because there's a significant chance that they are innocent of the deeds they are accused of.

I had high hopes for Hatred. I saw a gameplay video and saw that the PC is a ridiculous bullet sponge. That's such a disappointment.
But it has a good side. There's still place for an ultimate spree shooting game. Maybe the true king of the genre will be designed by me?

Not that I ever wanted to buy Hatred or anything like that. I was boycotting the game for authors being fascists and libertarians.
Post edited May 30, 2015 by Perturabo.235
So now the argument is that Hatred is a repetitive bad boring game? I must say that POSTAL1 specially is exactly the same, boring as hell.


To Postal 2 I give it some credite becuase the exploration was funny, and the killing and the non sense humour, in some moments. But is still a bit boring during most part of the game.

Polemic funny game? CARMAGEDDON, by far.
Post edited May 31, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
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YaTEdiGo: So now the argument is that Hatred is a repetitive bad boring game? I must say that POSTAL1 specially is exactly the same, boring as hell.
Not an argument at all, simple statement of fact that just happens to validate my suspicions about the game. It'll get some initial attention for the "shock" value and disappear into obscurity within a few months as people realize there's neither anything shocking nor interesting about the game after going on an hour or two shooting spree.

Which just makes Hatred all the more egregious. Watching gameplay side-by-side you'd be forgiven for thinking the Hatred devs simply remade Postal with updated graphics. It's almost uncanny.

Something new might have been interesting. Or even if, you know, they'd actually "explore the mind of a serial killer" as they had initially claimed. As it is, it's a mindless shooter. You could easily replace cops and civis with aliens, soldiers or zombies and have the same boring generic shooter that's been done a million times before... in fact I wouldn't be, at all, surprised if the first piece of DLC they announce is zombies. Because that's a requirement for making a game after 2013/14, you gotta either have zombies from the start, or at least a zombie re-skin DLC. Because we don't have enough zombie games, apparently.
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YaTEdiGo: So now the argument is that Hatred is a repetitive bad boring game? I must say that POSTAL1 specially is exactly the same, boring as hell.
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darkwolf777: Not an argument at all, simple statement of fact that just happens to validate my suspicions about the game. It'll get some initial attention for the "shock" value and disappear into obscurity within a few months as people realize there's neither anything shocking nor interesting about the game after going on an hour or two shooting spree.

Which just makes Hatred all the more egregious. Watching gameplay side-by-side you'd be forgiven for thinking the Hatred devs simply remade Postal with updated graphics. It's almost uncanny.

Something new might have been interesting. Or even if, you know, they'd actually "explore the mind of a serial killer" as they had initially claimed. As it is, it's a mindless shooter. You could easily replace cops and civis with aliens, soldiers or zombies and have the same boring generic shooter that's been done a million times before... in fact I wouldn't be, at all, surprised if the first piece of DLC they announce is zombies. Because that's a requirement for making a game after 2013/14, you gotta either have zombies from the start, or at least a zombie re-skin DLC. Because we don't have enough zombie games, apparently.
Totally agree, in fact I am more interested in have the game just for piss off the "critics" that for the general quality of the game itself.

POSTAL had the same issues, and to refresh some minds POSTAL 1 has NO humor at all in it's concept, just reading the quotes before every mission make this pretty clear. Postal 2 has "dark humor", POSTAL didn't had any humor at all beyond laugh with "horrible" situations happening.

And I always considered that POSTAL 1 is a VERY CRAPPY game, and it's only value was being polemic, something that in some way is not bad at all, as I like arts to push morals, and to awake opinions. And as I always said, people is deeply hypocritical being mad at "killing pixels" and being in general so happy with all the real mess they have around.

That's why nowadays people feel so great fighting causes on Twitter, and thinking the power is in the hands of their keyboards, comfortable numb sitting at home, and changing the world lying on the sofa with our fantastic iPads. One day we will wake up, and realize that we didn't change anything by the magical power of OZ and the "all mighty internet megaphone"...

More when people mislead constantly the right target, killing violent games, will never kill violence. In fact eradicate violence, need violence.
Post edited June 01, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
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Games like Hatred should be illegal and the stupid dumb idiots that created them should be pursued in justice....or actually they should just be shot....no that would not be murder, it would be mercy killing.
The fact that GOG rejected them is just a small proof that there is some common sense left in this world.
Post edited June 01, 2015 by kaboro
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kaboro: Games like Hatred should be illegal and the stupid dumb idiots that created them should be pursued in justice....or actually they should just be killed....no that would not be murder, it would be mercy killing.
The fact that GOG rejected them is just a small proof that there is some common sense left in this world.
Yeah, people should be punished, killed, and judged for have a "bad" imagination. I see there is a lot of common sense in you...
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kaboro: Games like Hatred should be illegal and the stupid dumb idiots that created them should be pursued in justice....or actually they should just be killed....no that would not be murder, it would be mercy killing.
The fact that GOG rejected them is just a small proof that there is some common sense left in this world.
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YaTEdiGo: Yeah, people should be punished, killed, and judged for have a "bad" imagination. I see there is a lot of common sense in you...
Hello cretin, in this world people do get punished for less of an offence than releasing a game where you kill people on the street....they get punished for saying a wrong thing at the wrong time in the wrong place.
As long as there is a hunch of common sense left in this world, games like Hatred will find no place.
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YaTEdiGo: Yeah, people should be punished, killed, and judged for have a "bad" imagination. I see there is a lot of common sense in you...
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kaboro: Hello cretin, in this world people do get punished for less of an offence than releasing a game where you kill people on the street....they get punished for saying a wrong thing at the wrong time in the wrong place.
As long as there is a hunch of common sense left in this world, games like Hatred will find no place.
Seems that you have much more hate inside you that the game itself. :) but I guess that "feeling offense for a pixel fantasy" is enough to you to judge, insult, and wish people to die.

I see... you should feel much better than others, often...
Post edited June 01, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
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kaboro: Hello cretin, in this world people do get punished for less of an offence than releasing a game where you kill people on the street....they get punished for saying a wrong thing at the wrong time in the wrong place.
As long as there is a hunch of common sense left in this world, games like Hatred will find no place.
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YaTEdiGo: Seems that you have much more hate inside you that the game itself. :) but I guess that "feeling offense for a pixel fantasy" is enough to you to judge, insult, and wish people to die.

I see... you should feel much better than others, often...
enjoy your pixel fantasy mate, i do feel much better than you i must admit.
yes i do have hate inside me for people that are able to release such a ...."game"?
i also feel that my hate is justified, when somebody spits in my face thats not freedom of expression that is pure insult and abuse, and yes i will reserve the right to react to that.
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YaTEdiGo: Seems that you have much more hate inside you that the game itself. :) but I guess that "feeling offense for a pixel fantasy" is enough to you to judge, insult, and wish people to die.

I see... you should feel much better than others, often...
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kaboro: enjoy your pixel fantasy mate, i do feel much better than you i must admit.
yes i do have hate inside me for people that are able to release such a ...."game"?
i also feel that my hate is justified, when somebody spits in my face thats not freedom of expression that is pure insult and abuse, and yes i will reserve the right to react to that.
Insulting, judging, wishing death to people, and openly affirm that you are better than others. Cool!!

I bet your "cause" deserve it. Hail my neo-pacifist-nazi non friend! Good luck fighting nonexistent causes in your particular Matrix-Twitter world!
Post edited June 01, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
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kaboro: enjoy your pixel fantasy mate, i do feel much better than you i must admit.
yes i do have hate inside me for people that are able to release such a ...."game"?
i also feel that my hate is justified, when somebody spits in my face thats not freedom of expression that is pure insult and abuse, and yes i will reserve the right to react to that.
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YaTEdiGo: Insulting, judging, wishing death to people, and openly affirm that you are better than others. Cool!!

I bet your "cause" deserve it. Hail my neo-pacifist-nazi non friend! Good luck fighting nonexistent causes in your particular Matrix-Twitter world!
do you realise how this applies to you too? just curious
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YaTEdiGo: Insulting, judging, wishing death to people, and openly affirm that you are better than others. Cool!!

I bet your "cause" deserve it. Hail my neo-pacifist-nazi non friend! Good luck fighting nonexistent causes in your particular Matrix-Twitter world!
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kaboro: do you realise how this applies to you too? just curious
I do not care, I am done with you. You portrait yourself perfectly.
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kaboro: do you realise how this applies to you too? just curious
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YaTEdiGo: I do not care, I am done with you. You portrait yourself perfectly.
as do you, and you dont care means you have no response, thank you
Post edited June 01, 2015 by kaboro
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YaTEdiGo: I do not care, I am done with you. You portrait yourself perfectly.
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kaboro: as do you
All thieves think others are like them, :) , yes, I portrait myself, but in a much different way.

I recommend you to come back to your probably open wars on Twitter and other forums. I bet you have better fights there, and I bet you are craving to tell others that you want some "bad" people dead ;)
Post edited June 01, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
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kaboro: Games like Hatred should be illegal and the stupid dumb idiots that created them should be pursued in justice....or actually they should just be shot....no that would not be murder, it would be mercy killing.
The fact that GOG rejected them is just a small proof that there is some common sense left in this world.
Hey, we're finally seeing 'fun' extremist stupidity from the other side of this! Yay...?

Seriously though, try growing up. You might even enjoy it!