Didn't want to stick around, I guess.

Ah well, I'll check back in a bit.



Good to see Trent with the claws out.

You're you.

Want to help me nail an actual wolf?

Vote SirPrimalform

What exactly am I dodging?

My claws are always out, but only for who I think scum is ;)

I've been focusing on players and what they have been trying to push and or divert overtly or deceitfully.


On a side not I am disappointed by the lack of activity from elebutterfly and damnation. I have them both as town and them being gone hurts us if they really are as scum have easy targets, but whatever their alignment they are not doing the game any justice with their absence :(

...Sez the guy who admits he hasn't read the game.

But if your point is the game is effed up b/c the scummiest players are somehow town clearing, then, yeah. You've got a point.

I apparently have no life.

After asking Trent to clarify what he views himself as doing I went through all of Trent's posts and, with the pattern kinda obvious, tallied that roughly 25% of his content is about ZFR, 15% about cristi, and 10% of his posts have nothing to do with the game at all.

I think there is literally 0% chance those D1 wagons were T/W, though, esp if SirP was the W.

Link please.

FWIW, probably 20% of my content is not game related, so that wasn't a slam. Sorry that it probably came off that way, it was just a control.

To my spreadsheet of vote tracking?

I mean, I can summarize maybe.

Ah, miss this in responding to yogs

1) The question of whether you think town has no protection at all, or whether SPF's claim has gone unchallenged for some other reason. You've seen 3 flips, plus 2 claims, one of which you believe. Plus at least your own. Plus, if you're not the cop, spoiler: there's probably a cop.

I just find it a bit ...odd that your answer seems to be "I have no idea what the setup is and I'm not interested" when you've got at least 4 solid data points on roles, perhaps 5, and you believe a 6th. That's...pretty much half the table.

If I were being a smurfhole I would link something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFzR_FOTq2I

2) You thought cristi was scum, as I recall, and yet you had a gentler touch there in ensuring her lynching, wouldn't you agree? Or am I misrepping there? So are your claws scum-hunting or defense?

3) Well, if you consider that it's possible all our D1/D2 wagons were town, you might have the world quite flip-flopped. I used the phrase toaster-coasting or somesuch earlier, but maybe mafia are just sitting back watching us eat our own and townies are running around wondering WTF and pointing at each other.

In that scenario shaking things up doesn't seem the worst thing to me. YMMV

4) Yeah, agree on the absence being sadface.

Here's the roles I know: Mine, Vitek's, cristi's, and flub's.

I believe ZFR's claim. SirPrimalform could very well be a Roleblocker, but if he is it's a scum one in my opinion. There's probably a cop in the game.

Beyond that I don't really care about any roles, what I care about it seeing scum dangling from the nearest tree with their legs twitching. I rarely speculate roles in a game, I prefer to judge people on how they are playing not by possible roles, unless they claim something that I find highly doubtful. I guess if I was scum I would care more, but honestly I don't care that much at all about any roles in the game.

cristi was getting lynched whether I did the hammer or not, was there a reason to be rough on her?

If I have it all wrong then I guess I have it all wrong, not going to stress over it. It could just be I'm in a funky mood today as my daughter called me earlier saying the doctor wants to do another exploratory surgery to make sure the cancer is gone and if it's not then wants to do chemo, all while she is pregnant. So at this particular moment anything I can do to get more action in the game is what I will do so people might actually get off their asses and try to play. Hard to say we are having much of a game when 5 or so people are doing most of the talking and participating at this stage. That being said I'm sure it will get more active soon, or at least I hope it does.

That's actually a good point. Do you know if it's normal practice to inform the roleblocker that they've failed to block Strongbad, or does the PM go through the motions of the block and then the Strongbad goes and does the kill anyway?
Side question, can cylons get drunk? Maybe this is the 5am talking. It's so hot. =(

1) From skimming over your posts you were on her wagon before getting off (when she claimed), so ...it seems like there was more to your suspicion of her than just the hammer, no? That seems a deflection.

2) :( Sorry, my friend

Generally no- that would make your role a direct investigative role rather than just an indirect one. That would be pretty OP.
I wondered what you meant, by the second part, but ...you're asking a flavour question, right? I'm sure from their flavour POV they would have faked being drunk in that scenario.

What exactly am I deflecting? Whether I hammered her or not the lynch was happening. If you are talking about something else then I guess I'm just confused because I have no idea what you mean.

I was talking about the claws coming out. You said they came out when you think you're on scum, but your pushes on cristi were very measured

as compared to

But perhaps that's just OMGUS on my part, or perhaps on yours.

Which, FWIW, I think probably explains Lift a bit as well, and why I don't find him quite as curious as others seem to.


@SPF - "Do cylons get drunk" is one of the key reasons we need Damnation to rejoin the game asap. He'll know.


Hit my curfew here, and I should be good and turn mafia off, hopefully in brain as well but prolly not.

I might explain what I was doing today tomorrow. Or I might not. And probably no one really cares anyway. /shrug

1) We've lost 2 town players. I stay in brig another day unbrigging me might become more difficult on D4.
2) I did want to see the reactions, and the ones who unbrigged so quickly (adalia, Lift) should be looked closesly upon. A townie would want to think about it a bit; a scum will want to unbrig a town player as soon as possible to appear more towny.

You're welcome!

1. Hey, that was a totally different game where I accused you of that. Not this one! ;-)

2. was directed at ZFR, but I can answer that from my point of view: something DID change. We lost 2 townies. So a brigged 'in effect voting everyone' vote became more dangerous. Also the main reason I saw ZFR as still possible scum yesterday was his association with cristi and HSL. But with cristi flipping town, ZFR is kind of cleared as well in my book. So I feel more comfortable with getting him out because 6 votes required to lynch feels safer with probably 3 scum around than 5 votes required to lynch.

3. Really? Now I'll have to ISO Joe to see whether your accusation is true. Because if it is, you might be on to something here!

You're missing something here. The decision to unbrig you ASAP if cristi flips town was already taken yesterday. At least by trent (post 986) and me (post 1000). So it really isn't 'so quickly' to stick to a previously announced plan.

This is an interesting statement and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. If you're town you just revealed that you didn't take any night-action and narrowed down the field for scum on their hunt for the cop. That would be a bad move. (Yes, I assume there is a cop since otherwise the backup-cop doesn't make sense at all)
But if you're scum you probably just wanted to throw some more doubt at SPF.

I'm back, I overslept this beginning of D3, apologies. Also I started my fishtank finally IRL and got distracted...

unbrig ZFR
I'm not sure what that proved...?

And since Cristi was indeed a Deputy, SPF claiming town roleblocker does look a bit more suspicious.

I skim-read to catch up, I need to re-read again, particularly that weird attempt at a wagon shift end of day to adaliawyrms.

Trenton, why did you particularly want to hammer cristi..?

bler, are you doing that dodging thing again..? -_- I'm with you Joe, the more I think about it, there's something in bler's play that I can't put my finger on, but that I don't like. More on this later.

Welcome yogs!