Nope. Check the Wiki.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ninja

So, Catv, was your accusation that our mod is a bastard mod meant to be a joke? Or do you know something that we don't?

Ultimately how your posts are perceived by all the players is what matters. Even if your intentions are good, the way you write or talk about them can make the difference between it being Towny or Mafia. Yes, even the same concepts, ideas, suggestions. How you approach them can make a big difference.

It's something even I'm struggling to master. I could have a good idea that would work, but the way I frame it makes it surprisingly sus. That's just Forum Mafia for you. We can talk about it post-game so it's all clearer.

@Catventurer, have you said or do you have anything to say about what Frostburn is saying you ignored him on?

The time for scumhunting is already overdue. It's time to move on and figure out what you're gonna do before the deadline creeps in again.

The Devil Down Below by Gaelic Storm

Okay, it doesn't say that ninjas are exempt from gunsmiths but I also don't see anything on the wiki that says that would be bastard.

It was obviously intended as a joke.

I Get that but that doesn't mean she has a point.

I Have way too many townreads again.

Shadows by Lindsey Stirling

Okay if I assume the most likely scenario I have a narrow scumpool and Micro is the only one in it that I really scumread in it.

Vote Micro

you might not have seen but i posted in #quote_585 that i am town gunsmith
honestly, i don’t really know who to lynch: if i suspect frost, then i have to suspect pooka, but after their D1 wagon lead against scene, i deem it unlikely that they’d push a wagon against their own, unless it was pre-planned of course- and then the inactive/ less seen players i just have no read on at all so they could be potential scum too… ugh…

also!! someone asked me (i believe vitek?) as to why i looked into lift and not frost N1. i investigates lift because a few people had begun investigations into lift and so i investigated lift to potentially ‘debunk’ those theories because i personally couldn’t really understand why people thought lift was mafia during D1. HOWEVER, why not frost? they already had a lot of attention on them, and YES, i could’ve proved or potentially debunked said theories on frost N1, however a lot of attention was already frost and so i figured that would continue on into D2, and maybe frost would slip up due to their messy posting. in retrospect, investigating frost would’ve been a lot easier for us D2, however there’s not a lot i can do about N1 now.

could somebody/ anybody at all run me through their thoughts on Az, Micro and Catte and why they could be scum? i want to look at them before voting.

What I meant by commitment is that until either someone notices it or you decide to reveal them, you're not actually committed to the claim in the breadcrumb. I didn't mean commitment in the sense of 'level of commitment' but rather the fact that it doesn't lock you into anything.
Just because I'm not willing to eliminate the possibility of you being mafia doesn't mean I think either of the claimed masons is the most sensible lunch today. Anyway, I've already said we should move on from it for now, but people keep bringing it back up so I keep defending my position.

Hey!

I... actually agree with you! By my PoE I would be willing to lunch Micro today.

Semi-Serious!

While it was a joke in relation to this game specifically as post #1 specifies no bastard rules, I have seen bastard elements used where ninjas really did follow the Stock Ninja Weaponry Trope. It's not something that I really liked as the role is pretty powerful even without that.

A more serious answer...

The way I have always treated the gunsmith is that he owns a gun-sniffing dog (actual thing) and just shows up at the suspected person's house at 3am with his dog. This means that it doesn't matter that the gunsmith can never detect the ninja moving around at night because he doesn't have to. Charlie the gun-sniffing dog with let him know if there is a gun there or not. (Yes, I'm making dogs more powerful than they are, but the alternative is that the gunsmith is randomly grabbing people at night and doing pat downs.)


I write all my posts in a text editor because I really do AFK a lot due to severe irritable bowel. I sometimes just forget to respond to something or miss a post. Since I don't know what he's talking about, I'm going to have to back-check to see what I didn't reply to as I don't know at the moment what he thinks I'm ignoring him about. Also... AFK.

Based on the most recent official Vote Count (#573), we're about two days away from the end of day two.

Catte 1 - Microfish_1 (#522)
Microfish_1 - FrostburnPhoenix (619)

Since Joe, Vitek, Catte and I'm not sure who else have expressed some suspicions about Microfish, I'm deciding that's good enough for me. It takes six to lynch someone.

vote Microfish_1

Phew, I am relieved. Relieved, I say.

I voted Micro in #611. Not in the most visible manner but I did.

No neither of us got confirmation about the other's alignment. I asked for it and dedo said if it was meant to be there it would have been in the pm.

But I believe this is just to make us doubt each other. Pretty obvs that catven is town.

I don't expect to have gotten any night flavour, and didn't. The pratice has by and large fallen out of fashion.

I missed this before, but during that infamous historical period, the mafia had a strictly prescribed heirarchy that the lover was at the bottom of - to prevent the lover from rogue-nightkilling their partners, but also so the lover couldn't have done anything about it if the mafia got wise.


As I understand it the poisoner would elect to handle the shared factional kill, and the victim would take a whole day to die.
So if the poisoner took the kill Night 1, then a different mafia took the kill Night 2, there would be no deaths Day 2 and two deaths Day 3.

Poisoner seems to make sense here, as they'd foil the gunsmith and be super effective against the doctor.
And also explains why it appears the mafia have by proxy targeted me: a truly terrible and shameful nightkill target.

Vitek - is there anything in the way your role is described that suggest poisoner? Like maybe it says "if your target is to die that night, they will not die" something like that which might hint at what we're dealing with? I guess it's not super urgent but

I'd like to be right.



vote microfish

he's two votes away from lunch now.

Nope, nothing like that. Just that I can protect from NK, nothing else was specified and nothing to indicate poisoner.

well probably i'm right anyhow

If you would answer the question that would be nice. :O (check the last line of 602)

Also, you all are disappointing. I've claimed (softly) a PR, I've got night actions, and was trying to play close enough to my chest to not get NKd. Hence my questions about RM.

Going back to roles:

1. JoeSapphire claimed lover
2. Lifthrasil claimed ???
3. FrostburnPhoenix claimed Mason
4. Catte ???
5. Ambiti0nZ ???
6. Catventurer claimed Joe's lover
7. detective_razza as claimed Gunsmith
9. Vitek claimed doctor
10. Microfish_1 claimed
11. PookaMustard claimed Mason

I'm far more interested in the 3 non-PRs than any claimed PR

That was serious question?

A) Nope, I meant Krypsyn, that's why I am speaking by CatV the whole Day, even mentioning her by name.
B) What was Joe? My unrequited love? Yes, that would be correct.

What about my question?

Thanks! It was easy to miss... and you have earned yourself the cat hiding in a box as a reward:

0( =^・_・^)=〇


Catte 1 - Microfish_1 (#522)
Microfish 4 - Vitek (#661), FrostburnPhoenix (619), Catventurer (#623), JoeSapphire (#625)

It takes six to lynch someone.


I have no clue because I always ran Lovers as Town/Town, but I do think that the games here are far too small to warrant running Mafia/Mafia Lovers. Even if it is to balance super powerful mafia roles, it would be better to tone them down a bit and not do Mafia/Mafia. This is just my opinion.

I can see Mafia/Town work in a smaller game if the Mafia Lover has a secondary ability, which is balanced by giving them a Town Lover that would essentially have mafia immunity. The entire Mafia team is going to have an insensitive to not kill the specific town-aligned person.