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This is my favourite topic
Posted May 20, 2021
EBWOP...the one above bit should say: "I say now's the time for caution and action.....we need to pick carefully, but there's a good chance we might not. We might mull about too long and scum could then lead us astray and onto the wrong lynch....or we could just get unlucky and pick wrong ourselves. As such:"

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Bookwyrm627: *groan* From hell's heart *weeze* I stab at thee...
and kill your chat......as you've *gasp* killed me..... *expire*
Well done "bah" post, mate.
Posted May 20, 2021
It only makes sense that scum would go for bookwyrm. Aside from being perceived as Town Incarnate, he was one of the two people I know who didn't claim vanilla, with the second being me, so I think it all boiled down as a coin toss between bookwyrm and myself. That's one thing, though that assumes the scumteam is all so willing to ditch daychat? But let's be fair, at this point scum need a single mislynch and it's all over. I can see them ditching the daychat.

OK, so it's possibly the final day if we mislynch, and I see GH is still...useless? I'm still convinced he's our guy. He's been coasting along the fact he's a second guesser, and lacking in good memory. When seriously questioned by catte that he's just being an opportunistic voter, he brushes it off by claiming that's part of his play. Really, nothing about him feels useful, and that's...well. Honestly the only thing that didn't get him lynched this game is the fact there is no motion detector to catch him.

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joppo: Re-reading D3 and continuing the "replies to old stuff", this called my attention. Blotunga obviously gained some scumpoints in your eyes since you felt like hammering. Care to mention what provoked this change?
blotunga hasn't gained any scumpoints and my stance on him hasn't changed even when I announced my intention to hammer. In fact, I would've been happier hammering GH instead, but the hours rolled by and the GH wagon was obviously a no-go. So blotunga it was. And while the circumstances surrounding him did mean there was a chance he'd be it, honestly I didn't feel it as strongly as the others.

While I believe GH is our guy, I honestly have no idea who could be the other guy. Hmmm, one thing I remember bookwyrm saying the last Day is that at one point, he was discussing stuff with GH who suddenly dropped off and came back a while later with an answer, which bookwyrm said was like he discussed the situation with his buddy before opening his mouth. So if we look at GH's interactions, in addition to our trusty wagon analysis tool, should give us just enough info to point us to the right direction if not straight to the scum's doorstep.

Anyway, did anyone vote GH before I post this? Let's refresh...nah.

Vote GymHenson

"With great power comes great responsibility." Uncle Ben, Spider-Man, 2002
Posted May 20, 2021
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Pookina: It only makes sense that scum would go for bookwyrm. Aside from being perceived as Town Incarnate, he was one of the two people I know who didn't claim vanilla, with the second being me, so I think it all boiled down as a coin toss between bookwyrm and myself. That's one thing, though that assumes the scumteam is all so willing to ditch daychat? But let's be fair, at this point scum need a single mislynch and it's all over. I can see them ditching the daychat.

OK, so it's possibly the final day if we mislynch, and I see GH is still...useless? I'm still convinced he's our guy. He's been coasting along the fact he's a second guesser, and lacking in good memory. When seriously questioned by catte that he's just being an opportunistic voter, he brushes it off by claiming that's part of his play. Really, nothing about him feels useful, and that's...well. Honestly the only thing that didn't get him lynched this game is the fact there is no motion detector to catch him.

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joppo: Re-reading D3 and continuing the "replies to old stuff", this called my attention. Blotunga obviously gained some scumpoints in your eyes since you felt like hammering. Care to mention what provoked this change?
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Pookina: blotunga hasn't gained any scumpoints and my stance on him hasn't changed even when I announced my intention to hammer. In fact, I would've been happier hammering GH instead, but the hours rolled by and the GH wagon was obviously a no-go. So blotunga it was. And while the circumstances surrounding him did mean there was a chance he'd be it, honestly I didn't feel it as strongly as the others.

While I believe GH is our guy, I honestly have no idea who could be the other guy. Hmmm, one thing I remember bookwyrm saying the last Day is that at one point, he was discussing stuff with GH who suddenly dropped off and came back a while later with an answer, which bookwyrm said was like he discussed the situation with his buddy before opening his mouth. So if we look at GH's interactions, in addition to our trusty wagon analysis tool, should give us just enough info to point us to the right direction if not straight to the scum's doorstep.

Anyway, did anyone vote GH before I post this? Let's refresh...nah.

Vote GymHenson

"With great power comes great responsibility." Uncle Ben, Spider-Man, 2002
I don't remember seeing Catte or Micro claim VT.
I'm not sure if scum selected Bookwyrm because of the high possibility he was IC. He was so widespreadly considered towny that he was virtually unlynchable. In other words, as dangerous to them as an IC when the votes fall down. If that is the reason he was chosen they got lucky that the IC wasn't Catte or Micro. Personally I thought it could be Catte and that the reason he had low participation in previous Days was a conscious choice to reduce the risk he would be the NK. Theory jossed now.

The Blotunga situation had me wondering because you knew I was gonna be around and willing to hammer, and that there would be time enough for you or anyone else to react if it were needed. I even entertained a theory of scum!Pooka denying me a chance to prove I was willing to put my vote where my mouth was. You know when in SH a fascist president gets FLL and passes LL for his liberal chancellor because he doesn't want him tested? Yeah, like that. But I'm not giving it much weight because different from SH, a defense would be trivial for someone supposed to be online like I would be.
With all that said I still think there is too little chance that you're scum. Far more likely that it's GH like you said. I would join you, but I think since we're at MYLO today is the day we should NL.

Which brings me to @Trent: Actually, first we should NL, since we can't postpone it. Only after that the IC should come forward, if they weren't NK'd. If they were to ask for mod confirmation the same day we NL we would waste their 1-shot bulletproof.
Posted May 20, 2021
Hmm, this post seems "off" to me...more on this below:
(also to all reading: I know this post is going to sound partially LAMIST......but please try to read it all carefully)

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Pookina: OK, so it's possibly the final day if we mislynch, and I see GH is still...useless?
Useless? Har har har...good one.

While i'm not the best player(or even second best), I have still been trying to find scum somewhat since my IRL cleared up....such as trying and failing to get Nmillar(whom I suspected) to be the lynch, and then helping to get a lynch(albeit sadly a mislynch of a town). I have also been trying to poke and prod a bit here and there. Yet, you say i'm useless...as in 100%?

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Pookina: When seriously questioned by catte that he's just being an opportunistic voter, he brushes it off by claiming that's part of his play.
No, I said random(or seemingly random) things like voting for people in such a manner is more or less NAI for me, because it is, because I change my play style so much.

You know this and I explained what I meant earlier...so then why do you seem to misconstrue what I meant once again?

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Pookina: Really, nothing about him feels useful, and that's...well. Honestly the only thing that didn't get him lynched this game is the fact there is no motion detector to catch him.
You make a good point....I have been questioning WHY I haven't been lynched yet...and then it hit me:

Usually I get suspected and Lynched in short order in some of these games.....but not this one....so then why? My guess: scum have been more or less making it that way....that(imo) is the only explanation I can figure as to why I have been so suspect to some yet haven't been lynched.

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Pookina: Hmmm, one thing I remember bookwyrm saying the last Day is that at one point, he was discussing stuff with GH who suddenly dropped off and came back a while later with an answer, which bookwyrm said was like he discussed the situation with his buddy before opening his mouth. So if we look at GH's interactions, in addition to our trusty wagon analysis tool, should give us just enough info to point us to the right direction if not straight to the scum's doorstep.
You were scum with me in a prior game....and you think i'd be that clever this game? Or that i'd think to go to day chat like that, when we had scum chat in that one prior game and I hardly ever remembered to use it?

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Pookina: Anyway, did anyone vote GH before I post this? Let's refresh...nah.

Vote GymHenson
So when will your scum buddy be joining the wagon? Second to hammer or the hammer vote?

"You're making it too obvious, smalls."

I'm calling your bluff:

Unvote

Vote GymHenson

(before anyone complains, I figure there's no risk of two scum quickvoting me, as one is likely on my wagon already...and it aint' me ;))
Posted May 20, 2021
Addition to the post above: Now Pookina, what will you do? If you're truly town, are you willing to risk that two scum quickvote? ;)

(to everyone else: I think the chances of Pookina being town right now are slim)

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joppo: I don't remember seeing Catte or Micro claim VT.
I'm not sure if scum selected Bookwyrm because of the high possibility he was IC. He was so widespreadly considered towny that he was virtually unlynchable. In other words, as dangerous to them as an IC when the votes fall down. If that is the reason he was chosen they got lucky that the IC wasn't Catte or Micro. Personally I thought it could be Catte and that the reason he had low participation in previous Days was a conscious choice to reduce the risk he would be the NK. Theory jossed now.
My theory was, based on Catte saying something like they didn't want the IC to be force outed early on in game, that Catte was either IC or scum.

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joppo: With all that said I still think there is too little chance that you're scum. Far more likely that it's GH like you said. I would join you, but I think since we're at MYLO today is the day we should NL.
Think for a moment: Pookina easily votes for me on a "day" when two town votes would allow the scum team to pile on an Lynch a town being voted on....and after Trent's warning above. Add to that they keep getting wrong(seemingly) what I meant by my play being NAI, even though (iirc) I explained it to them and others a few times....and also the fact that they had scum chat with me in a prior game, and know how I handle it, yet seem to act like i've become a mastermind at the game since then.

Still think they're more likely town?
(i'd honestly like your thoughts on this, when you have time)

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Btw to all: I'm now at L-2(I believe)......let us see what happens, shall we?

[i]GH lights his pipe and sits back, as the misty vapors of a nearby nebula trail past his cabin window. Everyone else is tense, but he remains calm.

"What will the future bring I wonder....salvation for us all, or damnation due to someone's folly?"[/i]
Posted May 20, 2021
Cruddy italics tags borked up, I see....*grumble mumble mutter*

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Forgot this question(to all players):

Would I, if I were scum, suggest or go along with the NK of a player who suspected me near the most(if not the most) as of late?
Posted May 20, 2021
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joppo: The Blotunga situation had me wondering because you knew I was gonna be around and willing to hammer, and that there would be time enough for you or anyone else to react if it were needed. I even entertained a theory of scum!Pooka denying me a chance to prove I was willing to put my vote where my mouth was. You know when in SH a fascist president gets FLL and passes LL for his liberal chancellor because he doesn't want him tested? Yeah, like that. But I'm not giving it much weight because different from SH, a defense would be trivial for someone supposed to be online like I would be.
I know you and maybe someone else stated their intention to hammer. Still, I only trust myself to actually deliver the hammer I promised. And you can't really blame me for taking that option, considering our voting track record this game :P

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joppo: With all that said I still think there is too little chance that you're scum. Far more likely that it's GH like you said. I would join you, but I think since we're at MYLO today is the day we should NL.
Yes, and then scum end up killing someone generally considered to be high on everyone's "Good Guy List," therefore we don't get any leads on where the actual bad guys are hiding. Honestly it's not really a decent plan and will just 70% likely end with me getting the nightkill (I'm top town read for people like Catte and a few others). If you're gonna go that route, think if myself or whoever your favorite "I think this is definitely a Good Guy" pick is worth sacrificing for the flip. Because they're not going to go for the people you want to flip most, they're going to go for those who will be hard to lynch normally.

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joppo: Which brings me to @Trent: Actually, first we should NL, since we can't postpone it. Only after that the IC should come forward, if they weren't NK'd. If they were to ask for mod confirmation the same day we NL we would waste their 1-shot bulletproof.
Jeesh, have you even read the very starting post of the Day? Or even seen the bah post?

Bookwyrm627 has been killed, and he's the Town Innocent Child.

Oh heck you even acknowledged it in your first post of today, but now you completely forgot about it. Strange as heck. I don't know what to make of this lapse in memory. I was gonna award a derpclear, but I had second thoughts when I scrolled up and saw your other post recognizing that the IC is dead.

Let's get to the juicy stuff.

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GymHenson: So when will your scum buddy be joining the wagon? Second to hammer or the hammer vote?

"You're making it too obvious, smalls."

I'm calling your bluff:

Unvote

Vote GymHenson

(before anyone complains, I figure there's no risk of two scum quickvoting me, as one is likely on my wagon already...and it aint' me ;))
Wooooooooooooooooow. I'm so terrified. I'm shaking in my boots. Soon I'll go cry to my mom (love <3) about this whole ordeal.

Honestly you just made me even less likely to unvote you ;). You're awfully quick to call me scum, even if for all you know it could be town-on-town violence. Yet you act like you became a Cop of sorts and somehow investigated my alignment the moment I voted you. Oh my god you suck.

You're really proving my point that you're useless, by doing the most anti-Town thing you could ever think of. You've seen enough self-votes during your course here, including one I induced on myself to avoid a nolynch (funny, all the lengths I go to make sure you people fucking vote). Did it ever help Town's case? You should know better.

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GymHenson: While i'm not the best player(or even second best), I have still been trying to find scum somewhat since my IRL cleared up....such as trying and failing to get Nmillar(whom I suspected) to be the lynch, and then helping to get a lynch(albeit sadly a mislynch of a town). I have also been trying to poke and prod a bit here and there. Yet, you say i'm useless...as in 100%?
Yes. 100%. It's time for you to go. Your poking and prodding has been minimal at best if we're being generous, but in my opinion it's non-existent.

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GymHenson: You were scum with me in a prior game....and you think i'd be that clever this game? Or that i'd think to go to day chat like that, when we had scum chat in that one prior game and I hardly ever remembered to use it?
Even if you never used scumchat at all, you're honestly not doing enough to dispel the notion you're really scummy. Your self-vote on MyLo doesn't help you any, either. It just shows you were too quick to draw the gun.

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GymHenson: Now Pookina, what will you do? If you're truly town, are you willing to risk that two scum quickvote? ;)
Yes. If you're really Town, YOU unvote. You're the one risking the quickvote through your selfvote, not me.

"Just keep swimming." -Dory, Finding Nemo, 2003
Posted May 20, 2021
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Pookina: Wooooooooooooooooow. I'm so terrified. I'm shaking in my boots. Soon I'll go cry to my mom (love <3) about this whole ordeal.
Yeah, you should be worried....as I have a strong hunch i've found one scum, and hopefully will find the other. ;)

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Pookina: You're awfully quick to call me scum, even if for all you know it could be town-on-town violence. Yet you act like you became a Cop of sorts and somehow investigated my alignment the moment I voted you. Oh my god you suck.
Nah, it's more the fact that you were quick to vote me today and even after Trent cautioned against anyone voting hastily....and also that you seemed to have gotten wrong what I meant when I said my play is NAI earlier, even though iirc I explained what I meant by that to you and others already.

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Pookina: You're really proving my point that you're useless, by doing the most anti-Town thing you could ever think of. You've seen enough self-votes during your course here, including one I induced on myself to avoid a nolynch (funny, all the lengths I go to make sure you people fucking vote). Did it ever help Town's case? You should know better.
I thought you believe me to be scum? Do you have a doubt that i'm scum? If so, why are you keeping your vote on me?

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Pookina: Yes. 100%. It's time for you to go.
Y'all should've NKd me earlier, then. ;)

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Pookina: Even if you never used scumchat at all, you're honestly not doing enough to dispel the notion you're really scummy. Your self-vote on MyLo doesn't help you any, either. It just shows you were too quick to draw the gun.
Note my first vote: It was for NL. And in a sense I still want to go that route....once this current vote fulfills it's intended purpose, that is.

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Pookina: Yes. If you're really Town, YOU unvote. You're the one risking the quickvote through your selfvote, not me.
And why don't you? If you're truly town, are you willing to risk the game on a feeling that i'm scum? o.0
Posted May 20, 2021
VOTE COUNT

GymHenson 2 - Pookina (#707), GymHenson (#709)

Not voting: Microfish_1, Catte, Joppo, trentonlf

With 6 players it takes 4 votes to achieve a lynch.

GymHenson is closest to lynch at L-2.

Day 4 ends in about 4.5 days.


EDIT: I had an error in the remaining time of the Day above which is now fixed.
Post edited May 20, 2021 by dedoporno
Posted May 20, 2021
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joppo: Which brings me to @Trent: Actually, first we should NL, since we can't postpone it. Only after that the IC should come forward, if they weren't NK'd. If they were to ask for mod confirmation the same day we NL we would waste their 1-shot bulletproof.
On reread, this sounds like a response to trent saying today was the optimal day for a claim, and not an indication Joppo forgot who the IC was. I'm retracting my observations regarding this matter.

"I'm the king of the world!" -Jack Dawson, Titanic, 1997
Posted May 20, 2021
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Pookina: Anyway, did anyone vote GH before I post this? Let's refresh...nah.

Vote GymHenson

"With great power comes great responsibility." Uncle Ben, Spider-Man, 2002
Not that I disagree with your read of GH, is there any reason to rush this? I believe NL offers no disadvantages at this point.

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GymHenson: I'm calling your bluff:

Unvote

Vote GymHenson

(before anyone complains, I figure there's no risk of two scum quickvoting me, as one is likely on my wagon already...and it aint' me ;))
I think you're probably scum, but if you're not then I'm not sure what you think this proves?

You're suggesting you won't get quickvoted because you think that pookina is scum, but it could equally be because you're scum. Or this could be town on town and you'll get quickvoted any minute? This isn't a good idea from any perspective.

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GymHenson: My theory was, based on Catte saying something like they didn't want the IC to be force outed early on in game, that Catte was either IC or scum.
That's funny, my theory was that Trent might be the IC and the whole "IC should claim now" thing was a misdirect. When I pressured him and he was like "why would I be rattled?" I thought it was a hint that he didn't fear a lynch because he could just confirm himself if he got too much suspicion. I backed off because of that, I didn't want to be the one to out the IC at the wrong moment.

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Pookina: Jeesh, have you even read the very starting post of the Day? Or even seen the bah post?

Bookwyrm627 has been killed, and he's the Town Innocent Child.

Oh heck you even acknowledged it in your first post of today, but now you completely forgot about it. Strange as heck. I don't know what to make of this lapse in memory. I was gonna award a derpclear, but I had second thoughts when I scrolled up and saw your other post recognizing that the IC is dead.
Hmm, I don't read it that way at all. In context it just looks like a disagreement with Trent on when would have been the best time for the IC to claim if they were alive.

Pre-post-edit:

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Pookina: On reread, this sounds like a response to trent saying today was the optimal day for a claim, and not an indication Joppo forgot who the IC was. I'm retracting my observations regarding this matter.
Ah good.
Posted May 20, 2021
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Pookina: I know you and maybe someone else stated their intention to hammer. Still, I only trust myself to actually deliver the hammer I promised. And you can't really blame me for taking that option, considering our voting track record this game :P
That much I can get behind. We didn't really do a good job in early Days. Another NL would be a really bad outcome, so it's not like there is no reason for your preemptive vote.
Besides, if you were scum you could just sit on the sidelines and make me do the unpleasant action of hammering a townie. So I just don't see scum!Pooka on this from either angle.

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joppo: With all that said I still think there is too little chance that you're scum. Far more likely that it's GH like you said. I would join you, but I think since we're at MYLO today is the day we should NL.
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Pookina: Yes, and then scum end up killing someone generally considered to be high on everyone's "Good Guy List," therefore we don't get any leads on where the actual bad guys are hiding. Honestly it's not really a decent plan and will just 70% likely end with me getting the nightkill (I'm top town read for people like Catte and a few others). If you're gonna go that route, think if myself or whoever your favorite "I think this is definitely a Good Guy" pick is worth sacrificing for the flip. Because they're not going to go for the people you want to flip most, they're going to go for those who will be hard to lynch normally.
Scum will end up killing someone toNight either way. We can't avoid that.
And they will kill someone else the next Night too, if the game isn't lost by then. So whichever of these two Days we choose to NL won't impact how many townies we lose or who they are going to be.


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joppo: Which brings me to @Trent: Actually, first we should NL, since we can't postpone it. Only after that the IC should come forward, if they weren't NK'd. If they were to ask for mod confirmation the same day we NL we would waste their 1-shot bulletproof.
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Pookina: On reread, this sounds like a response to trent saying today was the optimal day for a claim, and not an indication Joppo forgot who the IC was. I'm retracting my observations regarding this matter.
You're correct here.
I wasn't saying "Hey I have a plan for what our IC should do now", I was saying that in that hypothetical scenario where the IC lived "This would be a better course of action for a Town that reaches MYLO than having the IC ask for mod confirmation before the NL" .
I probably should have included a " Only after that the IC should come forward, if they weren't NK'd during that hypothetical night". But I didn't see there was potential for a misunderstanding. Good that it was cleared before it turned into an actual mess.
Posted May 20, 2021
This is to Catte, but I encourage all players to read this post...especially the bits attached to the stuff that's bolded/underlined....as I am also trying to point such things out to everyone
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my name is capitayn catte: Not that I disagree with your read of GH, is there any reason to rush this? I believe NL offers no disadvantages at this point.
I agree on the NL for today(d4) as well....it'd shrink the player pool by one(with the NK) and make it easier to find scum on d5(it'd also give us more time to discuss and perhaps figure out the scum that way as well...etc).

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my name is capitayn catte: I think you're probably scum, but if you're not then I'm not sure what you think this proves?
This wasn't just to prove something to others, but also to myself. I know(of course cannot prove) I am town and (especially after Pookina's vote for d4) felt that Pookina is scum. I felt/feel a bit strongly about this and that (as such_ there is no chance of a 2 scum quickvote because I feel/felt one scum is already on my wagon.....and I was confident enough to test it by voting myself in post 709.

Note: It has been 14 hours and I haven't been quickvoted....so if I am town, that must mean that either both scums have slept in/otherwise missed their chance for awhile now, or that one scum is already on my wagon(and I don't mean me, obv.)

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my name is capitayn catte: You're suggesting you won't get quickvoted because you think that pookina is scum, but it could equally be because you're scum.
Good point, so I ask this: If Pookina is town and I am scum, why hasn't Pookina erred on the side of caution by now and removed their vote? I mean if they are town, they don't know my alignment...do you really think if Pookina is town that they'd risk the game on their feeling I am scum?

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my name is capitayn catte: Or this could be town on town and you'll get quickvoted any minute? This isn't a good idea from any perspective.
I think the chances of it being town on town are slim, and that it is worth the risk....I didn't feel like sitting back and handing scum an easy win(as I feel Pookina is more likely one scum trying to help get an easy mislynch at this point) if I could help it. So I decided to try an unconventional strategy....one that some town might dislike....but one I felt was worth it if it'll help us pull off a win.

Also yeah I know it's a risk, in case of the slim chance Pookina is town, which is why my vote isn't permanent......I plan to take it off not too long from now, and go back to NL.

(I am also testing something else...which is partly why i'm giving it a bit more time....can't say what though or it might negate what i'm trying to accomplish. I will explain further when I remove my vote)

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my name is capitayn catte: That's funny, my theory was that Trent might be the IC and the whole "IC should claim now" thing was a misdirect. When I pressured him and he was like "why would I be rattled?" I thought it was a hint that he didn't fear a lynch because he could just confirm himself if he got too much suspicion. I backed off because of that, I didn't want to be the one to out the IC at the wrong moment.
Well at the time it seemed like you were trying to keep the IC hidden so as to keep scum day chat going. Also you(iirc) weren't the only one I suspected of either being the IC or trying to hide the IC as scum.

(for one, I thought Pookina's media quotes were maybe a hint they were IC....turns out I was wrong on them being IC)

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my name is capitayn catte: Hmm, I don't read it that way at all. In context it just looks like a disagreement with Trent on when would have been the best time for the IC to claim if they were alive.
At first I read it as Pookina seems to have read it at first(By seems, I mean I think maybe Pookina was also trying to maybe shade that player there as well maybe for some reason, or maybe distance from fellow scum)....then I realized that what you said was more likely what they were doing.

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Boomp needed

(also to all other town, I will remove my vote in less than a day from now, so don't worry, and please forgive me for the "sin" of self voting just this once)
Posted May 20, 2021
(@OP: not votes in this post)
(also Joppo, plz note I made a reply to you in post 710)
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joppo: Scum will end up killing someone toNight either way. We can't avoid that.
And they will kill someone else the next Night too, if the game isn't lost by then. So whichever of these two Days we choose to NL won't impact how many townies we lose or who they are going to be.
But you seem to forget: We are at MYLO

If we mislynch today(d4) the game is over.....meaning the only viable time for a NL of the next two "days"(d4 and d5) is today(d4).

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Also an important note to town(Y'all likely know this already, but just a reminder): scum day chat is gone now, so scum will probably use the game thread to talk/"talk" to each other. So maybe keep an eye on whom your favorite suspects are talking to and what they're saying/how they're saying it.....just a suggestion.
Posted May 20, 2021
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GymHenson: Good point, so I ask this: If Pookina is town and I am scum, why hasn't Pookina erred on the side of caution by now and removed their vote? I mean if they are town, they don't know my alignment...do you really think if Pookina is town that they'd risk the game on their feeling I am scum?
I have put the game at risk for a whopping 15 hours and will happily put it at risk for even longer. Four words: high risk, high reward. That and self-voting is just that scummy, and on MyLo with four votes required is double the scummy. It'd be pretty wrong if I was the one to take the vote away instead of you.

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joppo: Scum will end up killing someone toNight either way. We can't avoid that.
And they will kill someone else the next Night too, if the game isn't lost by then. So whichever of these two Days we choose to NL won't impact how many townies we lose or who they are going to be.
I'm not really thrilled for a third day with nolynch. The only pro is that scum will give us one flip (although nothing's stopping them from not just going for a kill and forcing our hands, just saying), but at the same time we'd happily give them an opportunity to chat during the night and assess their new situation. Essentially think of it this way: D5 will be exactly like D4, except with one less Townie and a more informed and up-to-date scumteam. Not sure that's worth breaking any more "most nolynches in a single game" record.

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GymHenson: (for one, I thought Pookina's media quotes were maybe a hint they were IC....turns out I was wrong on them being IC)
Interesting thing you said here. If you're scum, no wonder I've been spared until now.

So I have the interesting idea of tracking any votes related to GymHenson. No offense intended, but I get tired quickly when reading his posts. I'm not sure why, but it's how it is, so I'm going to my second best idea. I have been fixated on GH the whole game but haven't done enough due diligence in figuring out who could be with him, and I believe the vote record is it. I'll try to do it tomorrow. Feel free to nag me if I end up sleeping for too long.

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