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ZFR: I think when Town are moronic enough to end the Day on a No-Lynch when they shouldn't, then they deserve all the bad consequences. But it does happen here often enough on GOG, so let's keep that free NL as a safety net.
Hmm. If I would want to get nit-picky, I could make a case out of you saying 'they deserve all the bad consequences' and not 'we deserve all the bad consequences'. Don't you include yourself in 'Town'? ;-)
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ZFR: I think when Town are moronic enough to end the Day on a No-Lynch when they shouldn't, then they deserve all the bad consequences. But it does happen here often enough on GOG, so let's keep that free NL as a safety net.
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Lifthrasil: Hmm. If I would want to get nit-picky, I could make a case out of you saying 'they deserve all the bad consequences' and not 'we deserve all the bad consequences'. Don't you include yourself in 'Town'? ;-)
You caught me.
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Microfish_1: why is gog not bringing mafia 2 remaster to gog ??
Because people keep posting this question. Once that stops GOG will totes bring it here, I reckon. ;D

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Microfish_1: I'druther do scum hunting D1 than NL, but w/e floats people's boats, I guess.
I'd rather also catch scum, but barring that I am ok with a NL as well....less players means that D2 we will have better odds at finding scum, should we go the NL route.

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Microfish_1: Has anyone heard from Joe in a while? I hope he is ok & just busy.
I heard tell he is locked up in dedo's basem....err, he's out on vacation. o.0

(but yeah, I hope he's ok, too)

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Microfish_1: I'm a fish. And you deliberately left me out? O.O Are youze scum?
Look at Flock....I told them to warn everyone else....if they fell asleep at the switch/wheel that's more on them.

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Microfish_1: I'm not sure how to take this? Are you saying that it is useful because you are not scum?
I was saying that day chat would benefit the better mafia players....if I were scum it wouldn't be much help.....as I am a perpetual greenhorn player and all. Also when scum and we have day chat I sometimes either forget to use it or am not online at the same time as my scum mate, making it even less useful.

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Boomp needed
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Bookwyrm627: Your first post hemmed and hawed more than an indecisive politician who doesn't want to choose wrong.
That's normal for me....in part due to past games as town when I chose wrong and we lost spectacularly due to such things.

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Bookwyrm627: I've guessed, yes.

I stand by my statement, and his posting thus far leaves me uneasy.
That's also normal....just ask the majority of the player base for these games. :D

(of course all that said, feel free to suspect and vote as you will)

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boomp still needed
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FlockeSchnee: "Quick, check if anyone else here has a bird or mouse themed nickname....we must warn them of the possible danger! o.0 ;)"
How exactly were you helping me there?
Or do you mean: Helping a possible future victim. ? Still: How exactly did you help?
Note the smilies: In that case I was being mostly silly....as I have a tendency to do a good deal on D1.
(and also on D2 and beyond as well, when the mood strikes me :D)

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FlockeSchnee: Fraggles. :-) Who knew. Well, I most certainly didn't.
Well Jim Henson in general, but yeah...fraggles, too.

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FlockeSchnee: You don't understand! This is my chance to be able to point out things before others do. At least for now.
I have tried that before, but seemingly more often than not either get things wrong or some other(better/faster) player beats me to it....them is the luck of the draw, it seems.

(silliness aside, I hear ya on improving one's play a bit more...I try to do it each new game, if I can)

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FlockeSchnee: I'm sure you picked up some things. At the very least subconsciously. A brain is always doing something, it doesn't wait for permission. At least, that's my opinion.
I do, but I have memory issues so sadly I sometimes forget some of the things I learn/pick up(here and elsewhere)....still, I give it the old college try anyhoo. :)

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FlockeSchnee: This Nash equilibrium... it's your favourite isn't it? Because I'm fairly certain I did nothing to encourage anyone to throw mathematical calculations at me.
He does that with all the players(new and old)...it be his thing. :D

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FlockeSchnee: Enter eye twitching somewhat frantically here. Are you Mafia?
No, but since I can't prove that you should take my claim with the usual grain of sodium chloride.

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boomp maybe needed
(i'll wait it out if need be, I guess)
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ZFR: ...
and
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Lifthrasil: ...
Let me try to explain... Both of you make good arguments. But if one or both of you is Mafia, this may be just another tool to tip the scale in your favour in some way. But I'll still read it and try to make sense of it.


The kind of math I'm willing to go with:
10 players: 8 town, 2 mafia
Majority wants no lynch: I agree



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ZFR: Maybe it's a sign...
A sign to try harder I presume? We seem to have a very different definition of "short and quick". On the other hand: If this is actually short and quick for you, let's keep it this way please. :-)

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my name is capitayn catte: Positive or negative?
See for yourself. What's your verdict?


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Microfish_1: ...
I was trying to joke around a bit. Something I didn't get to do in the other games. It sounds funny in my head - the translation to reality is hit-and-miss though.

What's that joke about statistics you didn't forge yourself?



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nmillar: There's only one name that I don't recongnise in the participants list, so I think that's a good enough RVS as any.

Vote FlockeSchnee
For me it's you, blotunga and Bookwyrm. If you were me and wanted to choose one of the unknows, which one would you pick and why?
And you as you being you: Who do you pick/not pick and why?



unvote ZFR
vote Pookina


How about something non-random.org-related?
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Lifthrasil: No, it doesn't. We don't have better odds if we give scum a free kill. Reducing the number of Townies by one may not change your EV calculation. But it still means one Townie less. Which means that the influence of the scum team is relatively speaking slightly larger.
Thing is, they get that "free kill" whether we lynch a player or not....just sayin.

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Lifthrasil: It is nice that we can afford NL. But we should only do that intentionally if we have something to gain from it or if it happens naturally because we can't agree on a lynch. That is always a danger, so wasting that one NL intentionally would be stupid. I'd like to keep it as a buffer and prefer to take the chance of gettig scum over doing nothing.
Good points....maybe holding the NL till a later game day(when it would increase our odds a bit more by doing so) would be better than doing it D1.

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By the way, to you and all: If I may ask....why did you remove your vote on ZFR earlier(post 39) when Pookina had removed their vote 2 hours before that(post 35)? Didn't you see it?

And if you did, why remove your vote to protect zfr(supposedly from getting to hammer range) anyways?
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FlockeSchnee: For me it's you, blotunga and Bookwyrm. If you were me and wanted to choose one of the unknows, which one would you pick and why?
And you as you being you: Who do you pick/not pick and why?
Well, I can't very well be suspecting myself, can I? So, that leaves me with just blotunga and Bookwyrm, the latter of which has been fairly active, whereas blotunga has only contributed a couple of brief posts in reference to his experience of mafia day chat from previous games.

So, with the limited choices, I'd probably go for blotguna for lurkiness, though that seems a bit harsh as we're only on the second IRL day.
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GymHenson: Thing is, they get that "free kill" whether we lynch a player or not....just sayin.
No they don't. By definition.

Your statement reminds me of a hotel that offered "complimentary breakfast for 10$".
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FlockeSchnee: I knew it! Well, that was a fast game. On the bright side, if a new one starts right away I can probably squeeze it in. - Bright side for me, I mean.
No sense in holding back now though. You ate the real captain, didn't you?
I'm going to assume you misspelled "are".

*burp*
Where's that Joe?

Vote JoeSapphire
VOTE COUNT

GymHenson 1 - Bookwyrm627 (#24)
Bookwyrm627 2 - blotunga (#5), GymHenson (#7)
blotunga 1 - Micorfish_1 ([#32)
nmillar 2 - Pookina (#35), Lifthrasil (#43)
FlockeSchnee 1 - nmillar (#60)
Pookina 1 - FlockeSchnee (#66)
Some sexy mofo 1 - Catte (#71)

With 10 players it takes 6 votes to achieve a lynch.

Bookwyrm627 and nmillar are closest to lynch at L-4.

D1 ends in approximately 7 days.
Okay, I skimmed through the thread so far. Nothing really caught my attention, seems to be a very typical Day 1, a.k.a. it's a draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag.

The only part I can add on is the No Lynch discussion. I know ZFR isn't pushing for it, but let me just add my opinion here:



no.

The last time we no-lynched, we got the top 1 anime betrayal of all time. Then again, it could've been because dedo was really that good at convincing us he's Town, and nmillar (I think?) really bad at convincing he's actually Town, but that was a previous game, for all I know, nmillar might be really good at convincing he's actually Town this time (if he were) and dedo good at convincing us he's not the game host- oh wait.

Yeah, I have nothing else to say. Just end my misery already, can we skip to day 2
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Pookina: The last time we no-lynched, we got the top 1 anime betrayal of all time.
Oh my!

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Pookina: ~ dedo good at convincing us he's not the game host- oh wait.
I have no idea what you're talking about.









Or do I.
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dedoporno: Some sexy mofo 1 - Catte (#71)
How did you know my nickname!?