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joppo: Voting someone just because they are the leading wagon is not a good strategy, not even for Scum and much less for Town.
Imo it is somewhat valid if one doesn't have any concrete suspicions or leans at the time, and the town players want to avoid a NL so they have a wagon/votes/posts to analyze.

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JoeSapphire: korotan kinda requested to be the nightkill. he said something like "if I get my wish and I am the nightkill" or something like that.

which makes me think the mafia killed korotan as a favour
I'd say this is flimsy reasoning(for why scum picked korotan), but it might actually be possible....so thanks for pointing it out.

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JoeSapphire: which makes me think the mafia are players with a social conscience

which makes me think microfish and gymhenson.

j'accuse!
Thanks for the compliment. :)

Sorry to burst your bubble, though, as i'm not scum this time.
(of course take that fwiw, naturally, as i'm not proven town)

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JoeSapphire: I had someone else on this list but I just deleted them because I thought about something. oooooh!

more on that story later
We'll be waiting with baited breath.
(no, for seriously, make sure to let us know what you meant by this later :))

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dedoporno: Well, it's a bit of a blur to me as I read the flip first and that kind of cursed me with knowledge so I'm not sure how I would have read Trent's final words at the time he posted them. Probably would have seen them as Town as I don't think Trent is one to keep the act going just to keep the voters sweating until the very last moment.
Tbh I wish he would've let someone else do the honors.

Why?

Because I am guessing that scum possibly want to avoid the NL(in this game more so as per ZFR's math and the wiki info he told us about earlier), and might've been willing to risk being the hammer vote to avoid it.

Also from D1(changed to fit D2): Do you think it's better for us to go with a NL today(D2) or sometime later(D3 and onwards)?
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bucktoothgamer: I realize its a stretch as I did preface it by saying it was a very "out-there" thought. I dont have enough history with the group to know if scum!ZFR is as active post wise as town!ZFR, but yes I agree on base level his high presence in the game would be bold if this theory did hold any water.
Yup, which is part of why I suspect him somewhat less than most(if not all) others atm
(of course if his actions have been a clever scum!zfr ploy, then I will tip my hat to him at the end of the game)
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ZFR: Does anyone not find joppo's 'you fooled me again' odd? When he himself admitted that trent was centre, slightly on scum, side of the scale?
I mean to play joppo's advocate: when he had a chance to jump on the trent wagon he voted for me, claiming:

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joppo: The wagons that have a chance of getting to a lynch are much below in my scum-o-meter. Trent is far in the lead and I don't see that much of a reason to suspect him above others.
so its not like he had presented the idea that he found trent to be scummy. I do agree that the statement as a whole seems strange to me, however for a different(and probably ill informed) reason:

I dont see the concept of self-voting as an inherintly scum move. The only 2 instances i have experienced it were both town. So to me the idea of the self-vote making joppo swing from town/center trent to scum!trent raises more of an eyebrow than the "fool me again" comment.
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bucktoothgamer: I dont see the concept of self-voting as an inherintly scum move. The only 2 instances i have experienced it were both town. So to me the idea of the self-vote making joppo swing from town/center trent to scum!trent raises more of an eyebrow than the "fool me again" comment.
Usually it's mainly(from what i've seen) scum that are more or less about to be lynched in the game that do such things.....sometimes town do it too, but it's (from my experience) more a scum thing to do.
I am quite disappointed that nobody has yet called me out for lurking. If I was scum, then you'll all have given me an easy ride to victory. Luckily for you, I'm not (you'll just have to take my word for it).

On that note, I'm calling out my fellow lurker.

Vote Micro
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nmillar: I am quite disappointed that nobody has yet called me out for lurking. If I was scum, then you'll all have given me an easy ride to victory. Luckily for you, I'm not (you'll just have to take my word for it).

On that note, I'm calling out my fellow lurker.

Vote Micro
1. Lurking is not scum-indicative
2. You'll be eventually prodded and forced to post anyway, and then we can judge you based on what you say, so it's not like you're sleeping your way to victory :)
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JoeSapphire: Dedo, because he tried to dissuade me from reading him as town so I, poor predictable fool, have no choice but to town read him
He would do so as scum too. Hell, I have done it in the past.
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nmillar: Luckily for you, I'm not (you'll just have to take my word for it).
Mugsy: Maybe I will, and maybe I won't, Rabbit. :)
(The above is a looney tunes reference, in case anyone didn't get that)
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GymHenson: Tbh I wish he would've let someone else do the honors.

Why?

Because I am guessing that scum possibly want to avoid the NL(in this game more so as per ZFR's math and the wiki info he told us about earlier), and might've been willing to risk being the hammer vote to avoid it.
Yes, I'd also would have preferred if he Trent didn't do it. In case only one scum is on his wagon right now, maybe the other one would have been forced to join in the end to seal the lynch which would have tied both of them to the crime scene. That's a lot of ifs and woulds but still. Additionally, he voted against a confirmed Townie which is a poor play in general but I suppose he was frustrated enough to decide to do it.

The only "good" part about is that in this way Trent likely narrowed down the circle of suspicion on at least one of the scums.

Either way, I still prefer to have this lynch than to have none right now.

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GymHenson: Also from D1(changed to fit D2): Do you think it's better for us to go with a NL today(D2) or sometime later(D3 and onwards)?
Now that we have some leads to look at I'm more open to skip a day as it's likely going to help filter the information we have, even if it's just a bit. That said, I more inclined to do it Tomorrow rather than Today, but now that we do have something to look at I'm open to it and we should do it before the clock for it runs out.


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bucktoothgamer: I dont see the concept of self-voting as an inherintly scum move. The only 2 instances i have experienced it were both town. So to me the idea of the self-vote making joppo swing from town/center trent to scum!trent raises more of an eyebrow than the "fool me again" comment.
That's the point (in my opinion, I mean) - ZFR is latching on specific wording but that post as a whole and the presented surprise and "shaking fist against the sky" like "Damn you, fooled again!!" just makes no sense in that situation. I also think it's possible it was overdone theatrics. Like a reverse start-of-the-day-post where someone opens with "Oh noes, XXX died, why oh why did they kill the towniest of Town, YE SHALL BE AVENGED BROTHER". The only thing staying my hand is that some people are still keeping quiet.

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bucktoothgamer: I mean to play joppo's advocate: when he had a chance to jump on the trent wagon he voted for me ~
Not jumping on the leading wagon doesn't automatically mean one is not scum. We already said that it's likely one scum kept distance to remain clean. It could very well have been Joppo.
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nmillar: Vote Micro
Is this just a prod or something more?


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Lifthrasil: He would do so as scum too. Hell, I have done it in the past.
I certainly would. I don't know why Joe keeps insisting on putting weight on these things but I gave up. Well, I probably do know - because it's Joe and he tends to do stuff like that.
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dedoporno: Is this just a prod or something more?
More of a prod at the moment, but he was on my suspect list from D1.
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nmillar: I am quite disappointed that nobody has yet called me out for lurking. If I was scum, then you'll all have given me an easy ride to victory. Luckily for you, I'm not (you'll just have to take my word for it).
wow, lol. okay.
Votecount the Seventh - "But they voted with expert timing"

Microfish 1 - nmillar (#337)

Not voting 9 - pookina, Microfish, bucktoothgamer, ZFR, dedoporno, GymHenson, Lifthrasil, JaiSpohpere, joppo

With 10 players 6 votes are required for lunch.

Micro is closest to lunch at L-5.
Post edited December 02, 2020 by my name is sadde catte