The Queen was a little bit concerned. If that merchant disappeared and reappeared in her throne room at will, could rebels do that as well, and off her before anyone could even realize something was amiss?

PAGE 10 VOTE COUNT!

Carradice (4) - trentonlf, ZFR, Lifthrasil, SirMrFailRomp
SirMrFailRomp (3) - Flockeschnee, gogtrial, yogsloth
Microfish (3) - Vitek, supplementscene, dedoporno
Lifthrasil (2) - JoeSapphire, Carradice
ZFR (1) - Microfish

Not voted: FlockeSchnee, yogsloth, Vitek, gogtrial, supplementscene, dedoporno, JoeSapphire, trentonlf
Not voting:

Carradice is closest to imprisonment, at L-3.
There are 13 players. It takes 7 votes to imprison.
Court Phase 1 ends on Saturday, 20th June, 7PM London Time + any overtimes. ONLY 7 HOURS LEFT!
Check to make sure your vote is against the correct person.

Also as a matter of policy: even if I don't officially announce that Break Phase 1 has began, any votes made after 7PM London Time today will not be counted.

SPF? micro? Carradice? pick one!
Why?

Assuming the Lift wagon doesn't go anywhere, and no fire drills happen, I'm assuming you're going to vote for SPF or micro to save yourself, even if you'd prefer keeping them both alive. Who's the towniest of the two, and why?

FWIW, I am of the strong opinion that a replaced player should always stay completely out of the game, regardless of anything. The type of interactions, both to, but mostly from, will undoubtedly be colored by knowledge of alignment. I am in fact mentally giving yogs town points right now, because I believe it less likely GR would take the risk of 'fun'-posting like this if their slot had been scum, particularly since he could just show up in their daychat. That I think such things, is imho not in the spirit of the game, but it's happening anyway.

Wait, that's GR??? I thought it's just Pooka messing around.

If you can just make a second account to circumvent a GOG ban, why not just create it and continue playing?

Otherwise yes, a player posting like that could give way too much metainfo.

(emphasis mine)

Oh. Yes that makes sense.

Well that was what I was most interested in with regards to Microfish. If it becomes apparent that there are multiple scum teams or a serial killer or something else which makes it likely that we are dealing with a two-scum team then I think it's definitely worth considering this as a slip from microfish.

But, without that... well microfish generally does stuff for odd reasons and puts his foot in his mouth or in other peoples' mouthes.

Though when the Joe wagon loses traction he discovers that his reason for being on it in the first place and quietly excuses himself from it. That's not a great look.

I've still got a few things I want to respond to, but I'm not sure how useful it will be this close to deadline. I will, in case I picked up on something

I've gone off microfish for scum.

I've sort of gone off Lifthrasil based on this:

He tells me it's impossible for him to change my mind. I immediately start thinking perhaps he's got a point.

IF he reacted aggressively, backed off with the promise of glory, insulted me, revoked the insult then invoked my own contrariness all in the name of manipulating me into trusting him, then it's a thrilling effort and will be well remembered.
I rather choose to believe he's genuine.

SO I had

1 micro
2 lift
3 dedo

Now I have only vague scum-leans. Actually not even that, just what's left by process of elimination. Yes. Here's everybody I don't have an evidence-based reason for giving a town-lean to:

gogtrial
vitek
flockeschnee
dedoporno
trentonlf
microfish
carradice

of those I'm inclined to see

dedo
trent
carradice

as possible scum.

Trent's was vocal in pushing a town-Joe view at a time when a Joe wagon was looking viable. I should probably give him more town credits for that. But actually he makes a point of being honest with his reads when he's playing mafia. So Trent's in my list because he's a tough player to read based on evidence.

Carradice then. Based on process of elimination. A bit rubbish and seems unfair on him. But Sir not having much enthusiasm I associate with him when he's town, and micro I was reading into the "bragging right duo", when actually it makes sense as the clever lol now he explained it.

also gog dammit:

PRE-POST EDIT - Fuck. I accidentally edited post 500 trying to get this quote gog fucking dammit.

Abd-allah prostrates himself before Queen Hoda. "Forgive me your glorious worship. I am but a lowly worm who cannot be trusted trying to think of two things at the same time. I am your servant forever, to be punished as you will, but I plead, unworthy as I am, for your mercy, if not your forgiveness."


IT WAS NOT WORTH IT FOR THIS:

*see fig. 1*

Is anyone willing to move to Microfish? Because Liftrasil and SPF aren't getting lynched today unless the other wagons

If no one votes Microfish in the next 2 hours I'll move to Caradice to ensure a lynch

Between Micro or SPF I find SPF to still be the more scummier of the two. I liked SPF’s post when I pushed him and he answered, it felt like Town SPF. Could he be trying to AtE (appeal to emotion for anyone wondering), yes and that’s why I didn’t put him in my will not vote category. I still am not a fan of his floating along and doing what I call “hiding in plain sight”, posting enough to be here and look like you’re contributing when you’re really not.

As for Micro, I guess I’d have him as more a neutral than anything. He sounds like he does every other game I’ve played with him. Where others are seeing scummy reasons for some of his actions and comments it hits me as “meh, I think that’s a normal Micro response??” If it came down to Micro, me, and SPF at the end and I had to pick one as scum I would go with SPF.

Search for "pic related" for why I think so.

Microfish is my second choice after SPF right now. Given that their wagons are tied, I won't move in the next two hours, but I will move to help get one of them lynched over Carradice.

And this is why you must read the rules! You do not need to move. The only way a lynch won't happen is if the leading wagons are tied.

If a single player moves to Microfishes wagon it will be a 4-4 draw and we get no lynch. We need numbers

Nah. It was about his cat-with-a-cornered-mouse predatory attitude, which I associate with scum lift having been on the recieving end of it twice, but he can be aggressive in his town play as well. Since then I've just been very aware of his actions toward me, and almost deliberately seeing everything he did as scummy until it reached this point here where I told him "you have passed the test" and dropped it.

I don't know if I agree that lift not-getting-zfr's-reference is a townish indicator though...

They've come back from the labs. 6/10.

lol. thanks for the benefit of the doubt.


fuck yeah Black Lives Matter! Respect Exsistence Or Expect Resistence!

dedo's got some polaroids he could lend you. If he's not using them.

how exciting that would be if I were given a mission. It might have to wait until we're mafia buddies again. Is there anyone on this rosta who you can imagine tasking me with rolefishing?


When I said YOU ARE NOT FUNNY, I meant it in a bantery old-friends-who-find-each-other's-jokes-predictable-but-are-still-amused-in-spite-of-themselves way. Hope you got that!

If you're refering to the other times I've been mean and swearing at everybody then yeah. It's not Alignment Indicative but it did happed. (or is it Alignment Indicative of town-Joe? Probably!)


General notes -
I find myself agreeing with Trentonlf on most things.
The relationship between gogtrial and flockeschnee is almost certainly not two mafia members. - I'm inclined to town read them both because of how attentive and sensible they are being. I expected myself to immediately doubt that but I didn't...
Yogsloth has obviously contributed the least to the game so far.

Yogsloth, what do you mean by "not going to look there"?
also Yogsloth - can you share some tips on how to recognise scum lifthrasil and scum trentonlf?


Vote Carradice

Carradice, you're two votes from majority with 5 hours till deadline. If you're going to claim probably best to do it now.
Sorry, I should have voted sooner, it didn't occur to me.

I guess that works. Does anyone really not know which timezone they live in though? I realise I've got it easy due to our colonial past, but I like to think that if I lived somewhere else I'd still know the timezone(s) of my country.

MID-PAGE 10 VOTE COUNT!

Carradice (5) - trentonlf, ZFR, Lifthrasil, SirMrFailRomp, JoeSapphire
SirMrFailRomp (3) - Flockeschnee, gogtrial, yogsloth
Microfish (3) - Vitek, supplementscene, dedoporno
Lifthrasil (1) - Carradice
ZFR (1) - Microfish

Not voted: FlockeSchnee, yogsloth, Vitek, gogtrial, supplementscene, dedoporno, JoeSapphire, trentonlf
Not voting:

Carradice is closest to imprisonment, at L-2. Two more votes will instantly imprison Carradice and end Court Phase 1.
There are 13 players. It takes 7 votes to imprison.
Court Phase 1 ends on Saturday, 20th June, 7PM London Time + any overtimes. ONLY 5 HOURS LEFT!
Check to make sure your vote is against the correct person.

Also as a matter of policy: even if I don't officially announce that Break Phase 1 has began, any votes made after 7PM London Time today will not be counted.

If you'd like me to use UTC from now on (and I prefer that over the weird timezones Americans use), I could. It's not knowing your own timezone that's the problem, it's knowing what's your time compared to another timezone. That's where the world clocks apps come in handy.

As to concerns about our "merchant," I'm currently looking at them before approval, to make sure they're nothing more than flavor. I don't mind cancelling them though.

sorry I missed this -

ZFR said something like "If carradice turns out scum then Joe's probably town and we should re-evaulate the three currently voting for Joe. Also I hate Joe now I throw rocks at his bum"

I thought "Oh right, so I'm supposed to be all like 'here's my chance! If carradice flips scum then zfr will start being nice to me again!"

and then I thought "and the people on the wagon will be like "here's my chance! If carradice town zfr will start being nice to us again!"

^ only I didn't think it out so neatly in so many words. Only when zfr challenged me on it.




ALSO - I don't really know what to do about post 500. It basically just looked like:


"
Boh. I posted before I'd finished. I've got a few things to respond to but I've just seen how close we are to the deadline. I'll be busy now for a little while but I'll get back to the game when I can.

the bottom of the post should have looked like this:

*see fig. 1*
"
and then I forgot to attach the image.