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dedoporno: JMich, this seems like the second (in my experience) time where you will most likely end up as collateral damage. Last time you said you didn't have the chance to say anything. Now you did, but didn't do it. Am I wrong or was that on purpose?
No knowledge of me having a lover.
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JMich: No knowledge of me having a lover.
Well, in this case I'm not sure what lx's play is at the moment, I guess we'll have to see.

Someone said Vengeful. I don't really thing the Vengeful are something to be afraid of when lynching, so I highly doubt it.
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cristigale: 1. All kills by town (lynch or night) are no flip
2. Only kills of town are flipped
You're still neglecting the simplest option, and the one I really want to test. In fact I'd love to test it today. I've already given a bit of information, so I'm not terribly inclined to offer up my first choice of townie yet.

But how about this one: Townies always flip on death, scum don't.
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Ixamyakxim: But how about this one: Townies always flip on death, scum don't.
So TB was scum?
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Ixamyakxim: But how about this one: Townies always flip on death, scum don't.
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JMich: So TB was scum?
Rightly or wrongly, I have been assuming that yes.
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cristigale: 1. All kills by town (lynch or night) are no flip
2. Only kills of town are flipped
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Ixamyakxim: You're still neglecting the simplest option, and the one I really want to test. In fact I'd love to test it today. I've already given a bit of information, so I'm not terribly inclined to offer up my first choice of townie yet.

But how about this one: Townies always flip on death, scum don't.
I'm fairly sure that's actually what she meant by number 2. That all town that are killed flip.

Besides, that's been one of my two theories all game and I've repeatedly stated it. If you'd paid any attention to the thread you might have seen that. I've just reread all your posts (using my nifty new script) and you have contributed exactly nothing so far. Every one of your votes has been randomly placed based on a forming wagon or someone else's arguments (or no arguments at all). I think I've written more in one of my posts then you have in the whole game, and combined with your current behaviour and some of the things you've said I'm now completely certain of your scuminess.
We have less than 2 days until the end of the day, hopefully Hijack and CSPVG will post soon. Although I'm not sure what they can add to the mix as Ix is so far out there right now in his behavior. If they have not posted in the next 18 hours I will hammer this vote.
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Ixamyakxim: But how about this one: Townies always flip on death, scum don't.
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adaliabooks: I'm fairly sure that's actually what she meant by number 2. That all town that are killed flip.

Besides, that's been one of my two theories all game and I've repeatedly stated it. If you'd paid any attention to the thread you might have seen that. I've just reread all your posts (using my nifty new script)
It must have missed this one - again I believe I was the first to postulate that.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_25_terror_at_tres_leches/post1304]

I'm glad you're convinced of my scuminess. I'm almost questioning yours.

No one wants to do this huh? You still think we should be lynching scum and not townies? Look how long it's been and everyone is stalling stalling stalling dropping the hammer. You don't have to hide. Everyone else is thinking the same thing (could it REALLY be safe to just starting lynching town?).
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Ixamyakxim: It must have missed this one - again I believe I was the first to postulate that.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_25_terror_at_tres_leches/post1304]

I'm glad you're convinced of my scuminess. I'm almost questioning yours.

No one wants to do this huh? You still think we should be lynching scum and not townies? Look how long it's been and everyone is stalling stalling stalling dropping the hammer. You don't have to hide. Everyone else is thinking the same thing (could it REALLY be safe to just starting lynching town?).
Fair enough, your's was one of the first posts to mention the various possibilities, but it has been discussed many times since.

So since you seem to have extra info the rest of us aren't privy to, how many scum are there? And how many teams? You stated (quite a while ago, before this recent out burst) that there were a lot of scum in this game, which in hindsight seems like it might have been quite a slip.
The way I see it at most we could maybe have three teams of two scum, maybe three teams of three scum (but that would mean 50% scum so that's not likely).
Which means there are maybe six scum out of fourteen players, which is no where near enough to try and do what you propose (assuming I understand what you suggest). As nice as it would be for all the scum to come out and try and lynch one of us townies (and in the process give themselves away) I can't really see it happening.
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dedoporno: I'm not sure if this is standard, but in #23 we had a double voter (CSPVG if I'm not mistaken) and he specifically placed two votes.
2 bad ones, might I add.

This being said, gee guys, can you chill the fuck out with posting a bit? I'm trying to catch up here. I finished reading a page and I suddenly see 3 new ones appearing.
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HijacK: .......... I finished reading a page and I suddenly see 3 new ones appearing.
I knew it!!!

This is a cult game....I called it first.

Go Me!!
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flubbucket: I knew it!!!

This is a cult game....I called it first.

Go Me!!
SSHH!! You'll scare the children and keep them up all night. It is almost bedtime already, don't ya know...
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JMich: Woot?

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Well, I did warn everyone that my post might not be as coherent as I wanted it, I was editing it a lot while typing.
Let me give an example - in the current game, our win-condition is for every and all anti-town factions to be eliminated; would we be able to accomplish that if we all died before the game ends? That's what I assume, but didn't express in a clear way.
Were there games where the town win-condition could be accomplished even with no townies alive?


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Lifthrasil: [...]

One thing that got me thinking was the combination of Ix's post and his plea to fellow scum [url=http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_25_terror_at_tres_leches/post1712]1712. Combined these two make it look as though Ix assumes (or knows) that Sage is fellow-scum and that's why he is surprised that he is 'on' him. But of course it may be that this is exactly the impression that Ix was going for ... something to think about.

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How about another view? What if he's actually saying the exact opposite, that he considers everyone that voted on him to be scum/ anti-town, except Sage, and that's why he was surprised.
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HypersomniacLive: How about another view? What if he's actually saying the exact opposite, that he considers everyone that voted on him to be scum/ anti-town, except Sage, and that's why he was surprised.
I'm not sure about the win conditions... I imagine mafia would win if there were no townies left, but I'm not sure how the multiple mafias thing would effect that.

As for the people voting on Ix being scum, I can guarantee you that at least one of them other than Sage is town, because I am. I know you may not believe or accept that but I know it's true so if that's what Ix thinks he's badly wrong...
Did another quick re-read, and my position still stands.

While Ixy is clearly claiming scum - and must be lynched for it - I think we need to think very carefully about whether we do it today or tomorrow, as he's clearly trying to divert attention. I still think he's trying to buy another night action for JMich.