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Linux was never even meant to be a platform for gaming, never has been. I don't get why anyone would put up with having to play games through wonky emulators like Wine when you could be playing games natively. Well, to each their own.
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C_and_V: methinks.
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LexRust: So is yours.
Does it have anything to do with the fact, that it is one of your three alts you use to express your dissatisfaction with your primary account being banned?
Please stop creating new accounts and posing as someone else in order to push your agenda.
I'm not posing as someone else. First you banned me against your own rules. Then you banned my wife against your own rules. Then you banned our new shared account, naturally against your own rules. Now your going to ban this account, against your own rules, of course. You even go so far as to send me letter claiming I harass staff... For a company that is completely preoccupied with harassing people, you sure don't have a good handle on what actually constitutes harassment, do you. By all means keep going, not only are you damning yourselves in the eyes of God evermore, you are also losing credibility.
Rotfl, somebody went round the bend.
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timppu: Now now, show me where the bad GOG man touched you?
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C_and_V: Her account has been suspended. Just try visiting her profile. Proof enough that she has a point, methinks.
"Registered Feb 2020"... Are you his/her/its alter-ego?
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C_and_V: Her account has been suspended. Just try visiting her profile. Proof enough that she has a point, methinks.
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timppu: "Registered Feb 2020"... Are you his/her/its alter-ego?
C&V is shared account for Claude and Viktoriya.
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InkPanther: Rotfl, somebody went round the bend.
"And then they call us the crazy ones..."
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Crosmando: Linux was never even meant to be a platform for gaming, never has been. I don't get why anyone would put up with having to play games through wonky emulators like Wine when you could be playing games natively. Well, to each their own.
To some(a few, not all) MS/etc seem to be the biggest evils ever perpetrated on mankind or similar, or the biggest info sieve of all time, so they go to great lengths to avoid anything MS made as of late.

To me it's like being suspicious of all hammer makers, so one buys a rubber mallet to pound in nails instead of just using a regular hammer built for the task like the tool it is.
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the_second_death: First you banned me against your own rules. Then you banned my wife against your own rules.
I don't know which account you mean(your first account), but your wife kept insulting/provoking other users on her account & made various accusations against GOG/it's users.....that is why she was likely banned....had she acted civilly and voiced her concerns through the proper channels(PMs/emails to staff, rule abiding threads, etc) she likely wouldn't have been banned.

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the_second_death: That one was also likely banned as You even go so far as to send me letter claiming I harass staff.
GOG cannot differentiate between people in the same house using the same PC, most likely, and the letter was likely meant for your wife for the rules she broke.

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the_second_death: For a company that is completely preoccupied with harassing people, you sure don't have a good handle on what actually constitutes harassment, do you.
It isn't harassment for GOG staff to ban someone that keeps egging people on and making accusations about them and GOG itself....i.e. for them to enforce the rules.
Post edited February 06, 2020 by GameRager
This is my new home since I left Steam behind.

And I like it so far.

*grabs more popcorn*

But yeah, as a purely Linux gamer for 6 or so months now (I nuked my Win10 from the dualboot back then), I find OP really really slightly more or less somewhat a bit even a little 'entitled' to demand the store, to make sure games that aren't supported for your OS, run well or flawlessly. (if I understood it right, please correct me if I'm wrong)

Can you imagine the resources (time and devs) to get all/most non-native PC games to run well/flawlessly on Linux?? Even dedicated devs looking at this, with some decent Patreon donations behind them, can't do that (I'm referring to you WINE) so well - look at the bug fixes each month or so. THey are staggeringly life-changing bug fixes for some games. Going from 'unplayable borked mess' to 'oh wow it works'. But it takes them ages to look at each individual bug/game.

You really cannot expect that from GOG devs. It's like saying they should fix all bugs within 3rd party games sold on GOG, on Windows. Like, 'hey GOG! Fix ELEX bugs on Windows! Else I won't buy it!'. That's ludicrous. It's not even close being their responsibility.
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rojimboo: This is my new home since I left Steam behind.

And I like it so far.
Good to hear. :)

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rojimboo: But yeah, as a purely Linux gamer for 6 or so months now (I nuked my Win10 from the dualboot back then), I find OP really really slightly more or less somewhat a bit even a little 'entitled' to demand the store, to make sure games that aren't supported for your OS, run well or flawlessly. (if I understood it right, please correct me if I'm wrong)
Op wanted GOG to help him get a game MOD to work for Civ IV(so you are mostly right).....he essentially wanted GOG to make his game/mods run on linux when GOG doesn't even support Linux for that game.
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GameRager: Op wanted GOG to help him get a game MOD to work for Civ IV(so you are mostly right).....he essentially wanted GOG to make his game/mods run on linux when GOG doesn't even support Linux for that game.
Wow. It's even worse than I thought.
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GameRager: To me it's like being suspicious of all hammer makers, so one buys a rubber mallet to pound in nails instead of just using a regular hammer built for the task like the tool it is.
Of course you have to keep in mind here, that a computer - and by extension the OS it's running - isn't used for a singular task and likely can't be judged by a singular criterium. I didn't jump over to Linux, because it's so awesome for gaming. As it turns out, it is really awesome for everything else (well, imo at least, obviously use cases differ). So, you know, compromises.

Though I suspect between most participants that's more of an ideological discussion than anything else.
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CanDoThisAllDay:
Please, stop embarrassing yourselves.
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CanDoThisAllDay:
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InkPanther: Please, stop embarrassing yourselves.
Not embarrassed in the slightest. How about you? :)
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lolplatypus: Of course you have to keep in mind here, that a computer - and by extension the OS it's running - isn't used for a singular task and likely can't be judged by a singular criterium. I didn't jump over to Linux, because it's so awesome for gaming. As it turns out, it is really awesome for everything else (well, imo at least, obviously use cases differ). So, you know, compromises.

Though I suspect between most participants that's more of an ideological discussion than anything else.
That's true, but there's not much I can think of that Linux is better at doing than Windows unless we're talking servers. There's the benefit of Linux being free and there's the fact that you have more freedom to customize the OS to be more lightweight, but those are about the only things Linux has on Windows, unless you're concerned about telemetry.

As an out of the box product Windows tends to be better for most users because there's an ease of use factor from the fact that most software is built around that ecosystem and that's a hell of an advantage.

I use both Linux and Windows devices at home, but really the only thing I use Linux for is building appliances or tinkering with projects. I'd never consider using Linux for a primary device cause it's just too much of a hassle to use for a device that I need to know will be able to run bog standard applications. And I say that as server administrator running both Windows and Linux based servers. I see the utility in running Linux for certain kinds of servers, I don't see it for my day to day computer use.
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I had written some stuff about Linux and gaming and stuff, a bit lengthy actually - but lost it all due to some weird 503 server cache error or something when I clicked post message :(

Oh well, I'll just reply randomly here instead. Sigh.

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firstpastthepost: I'd never consider using Linux for a primary device cause it's just too much of a hassle to use for a device that I need to know will be able to run bog standard applications. And I say that as server administrator running both Windows and Linux based servers. I see the utility in running Linux for certain kinds of servers, I don't see it for my day to day computer use.
I don't quite see it that way. Even you seem to mention way more benefits to using Linux than Windows (free/open-source, customisation, lightweight, privacy and security) vs (it's easy out-of-the-box). In fact, you only seemingly provided one benefit to using Windows (it just works / software just works).

There is no doubt that it's more convenient for most people. But most people can be taught to use spreadsheet/presentation/word editor software everyday around the world - so there is little excuse for people not to be able to learn a little about Linux, if they even had to. Most Ubuntu based distros are braindead simple, you might never even have to open up the terminal, if you for some reason wanted to avoid it like the plague.

But consider the fact that actually, you can get everything to run well on Linux, should you so desire. I can't think of a single relevant piece of software or feature that you can do easily in Windows, yet find no way to accomplish in Linux....?

For gaming - anti-cheat multiplayer non-linux-native games (wow that's a mouthful) are a pain, and a no-go currently on Linux. There are exceptions though, like GGG's Path of Exile, where they do not ban you for using Linux.

Still, I've gotten everything working in Linux already (sometimes even better), as a newbie, and I probably used most Windows10 features, not only as a gamer.

I think I understand your point though that it's a bit of a hassIe, which is why so few use Linux as a main box. I agree, that that perception at least is the main reason why Linux usage is so low.

Consider that it's also a 'hassle' to make Windows 10 private and secure, get some games working optimally, install some 3rd party hardware drivers to unlock functionality, etc, i.e. people are probably doing stuff anyways that would translate into being a 'hassle'. Why not do it on Linux, where you get the benefit of all sorts of things as well?

I think it's mostly a matter of convenience and low alternative product knowledge, i.e. info about Linux. Who is informing people of the alternative to Windows, Linux? How would a person know to swap to Linux?

For that matter, who is advertising or marketing Linux? Some paid distros maybe with their incredible massive budgets? lol. Linux has a PR problem. Actually, Linux has no PR to speak of.

How to fix this? Yea not sure. For many students/university staff, it's easy. Force them to use Linux on their university laptop. That's it. That's how I first learnt about it. Cut off Windows option for the laptop, and boom. You're suddenly using Linux, and will probably not want to go back anywhere. Your institution will save a bunch of money for doing so, too. Need informed heads of departments/institutions though...