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Posted August 19, 2017
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Have said this before and will gladly say it again. I'm glad GOG isn't prioritising pushing galaxy down the throats of their Linux users too. For now, we are free of that madness.

Of course I want them to focus more on getting games to Linux, but I don't want them infected with a disease.
Posted August 19, 2017
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Pangaea666: Of course I want them to focus more on getting games to Linux, but I don't want them infected with a disease.
Well by not having this "disease" it is causing games to not release on Linux on GOG... can't really have it both ways.
Posted August 19, 2017
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A chunk of the issue isn't GOG, it's the over entitled Linux users. If you really want to game that badly, you'd use an OS that supports the main mass of games. Linux just isn't that. I couldn't blame GOG for not giving a shit about Linux.
Posted August 19, 2017
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adaliabooks: Judging by the posts in the thread you linked I think the problem is, and likely will be for quite some time, simply one of market size.
As said before, it's a chicken and the egg problem. Sometimes the old saying is true you got to spend money to make money... GOG can't hope to create a Linux market by not supporting it fully. At that point they have already failed anyway.
Posted August 19, 2017
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adaliabooks: Photoshop and games are the main ones really. Practically everything else I use is free or open source anyway.

And unfortunately while GIMP is excellent for a free program, it really is no match for Photoshop.
I sadly entirely agree; Photoshop generally runs just fine under wine, though. I'm personally running ancient Photoshop 7 under wine, but also a much newer version like CS6 has a gold rating.
]The thought of having to mess around and find fixes for games before playing them puts me off entirely.
If you have specific games you want to play, the situation with being able to do so under Linux is indeed still pretty uneven. But if you're a Linux user, and just want to play good games (without caring too much about which specific games those are), then you're more than spoiled for choice. GOG currently lists 721 Linux games, while the humble store has 755 DRM-Free Linux games available. Sure, that has different versions and DLC and everything thrown in, but it's still a staggering amount of games to be able to choose from. Even if you're incredibly picky with what games you like, there's many years of worthwhile gameplay to keep you entertained, and new games with Linux support coming out at a faster rate than you'll be able to play them.


Would I like GOG to do even more for supporting Linux? Absolutely!
Would I like every game which catches my interest to support Linux out of the box? Totally!
Do I feel underprivileged, and desire to 'slam' gog and game developers for not doing enough? No way! As a Linux user, the situation might not be perfect, but it's definitely more than good enough, and if there's some game developers which just don't want my money - oh well, that's tough luck for them, and makes my job with picking my next game slightly easier.
Posted August 19, 2017
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So... what else is new? Isn't that all that Linux users do, slam people for the lack of Linux support?
Posted August 19, 2017
Userbase on OS X is far lower than Linux. I theorize. Because nobody track Linux users because of missing anal probes.

Also for a human trying to be responsible with his own data, after Windows 7 there is no other way than Linux.
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CMOT70: If Linux users that I know in RL are anything to go by, if Linux suddenly started getting awesome support and compatibility, they would probably stop using it and find something new. It would become way to mainstream for them. Linux users revel in their persecuted minority status. The last thing they want is for their OS is for it to be in danger of becoming too popular.
Well you can tell them Linux machines shift more data on the internet than the rest of the operating systems, so it's MAINSTREAM ALREADY.


also, i find the latest blacklisting of urls and curse words in this forum childish. if you do that you just get an neverending spinner after "post my message". at least have the spine and display a message: your content was blocked or something.
Post edited August 19, 2017 by AlienMind
Posted August 19, 2017
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Darvond: As for an alternative to Photoshop, might I suggest Krita? If not that, there are plenty of fish to pick from.
Hmm, I've never heard of that one before it actually looks pretty good. I'll have to download it and give it a try.
Thanks! :)
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gogtrial34987: If you have specific games you want to play, the situation with being able to do so under Linux is indeed still pretty uneven. But if you're a Linux user, and just want to play good games (without caring too much about which specific games those are), then you're more than spoiled for choice. GOG currently lists 721 Linux games, while the humble store has 755 DRM-Free Linux games available. Sure, that has different versions and DLC and everything thrown in, but it's still a staggering amount of games to be able to choose from. Even if you're incredibly picky with what games you like, there's many years of worthwhile gameplay to keep you entertained, and new games with Linux support coming out at a faster rate than you'll be able to play them.
My gaming tastes are fairly specific I'd say... not particularly odd, just that I'm far more likely to find games I like with a wider choice than if I'm restricted to only ones that I can easily get to work on Linux (and if I had to dual boot I might as well just stick to Windows really, I don't see the point of that)
Post edited August 19, 2017 by adaliabooks
Posted August 19, 2017
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adaliabooks: ... I think the problem is, and likely will be for quite some time, simply one of market size.
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But because the amount of Linux users is still so small the chances of support for all the games and programs I might want to use happening is slim. ...
I think you hit the nail on the head.
Posted August 19, 2017
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adaliabooks: Judging by the posts in the thread you linked I think the problem is, and likely will be for quite some time, simply one of market size.
That's correct. Despite the very vocal nature of its supporters, it's a loss when it comes to money. Another thing that many are forgetting is the added complexity of another product and ongoing support for the product. Many devs simply cannot afford to devote their limited resources to such a small user base. Do you spend your resources to improve for 95% of your users, or spend all that time improving it for the loud 5%. (yea my percentages are completely made up ;) )
Posted August 19, 2017
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qwixter: Despite the very vocal nature of its supporters, it's a loss when it comes to money.
And, somehow, MacOS isn't, right?
Yea……
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9 Mac OS X 2.01%
10 Linux 1.64%
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qwixter: Another thing that many are forgetting is the added complexity of another product and ongoing support for the product. Many devs simply cannot afford to devote their limited resources to such a small user base.
Yup. But it seems, they can afford to promise Linux support at Kickstarter (and cancel it near release date with the exact same words of your's) most of the time. Been there, saw that. :P
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qwixter: Do you spend your resources to improve for 95% of your users, or spend all that time improving it for the loud 5%.
I'd rather not promise what I can not deliver and not disgrace myself using lies like that "In progress" status on the whishlist or excuses like in example provided by yourself (it was an example, wight?).
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qwixter: (yea my percentages are completely made up ;) )
It shows. :)
Posted August 19, 2017
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qwixter: Despite the very vocal nature of its supporters, it's a loss when it comes to money.
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Alm888: And, somehow, MacOS isn't, right?
Yea……

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9 Mac OS X 2.01%
10 Linux 1.64%
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Alm888:
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qwixter: Another thing that many are forgetting is the added complexity of another product and ongoing support for the product. Many devs simply cannot afford to devote their limited resources to such a small user base.
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Alm888: Yup. But it seems, they can afford to promise Linux support at Kickstarter (and cancel it near release date with the exact same words of your's) most of the time. Been there, saw that. :P
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qwixter: Do you spend your resources to improve for 95% of your users, or spend all that time improving it for the loud 5%.
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Alm888: I'd rather not promise what I can not deliver and not disgrace myself using lies like that "In progress" status on the whishlist or excuses like in example provided by yourself (it was an example, wight?).
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qwixter: (yea my percentages are completely made up ;) )
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Alm888: It shows. :)
How big of a sales percentage do you think linux is for gog?
Posted August 19, 2017
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qwixter: Despite the very vocal nature of its supporters, it's a loss when it comes to money.
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Alm888: And, somehow, MacOS isn't, right?
Yea……

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9 Mac OS X 2.01%
10 Linux 1.64%
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Alm888:
the statistic refers to general website traffic (including mobile devices).
Doubtful that this is synonym with the distribution of the PC gaming population.
Posted August 19, 2017
Pretty please with a stuffed and grilled penguin on top! (No idea whether penguin tastes good.)
Posted August 19, 2017
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qwixter: How big of a sales percentage do you think linux is for gog?
Without a clue, given that I don't have access to GOG's confidential data. All we have are those two numbers (2.01% and 1.64% for Mac and Linux respectively).

Ideally, every Mac and Linux user should buy every available to her/him game (that would be the absolute maximum currently attainable). In reality, this does not happen. There are losses.But there are two types of losses involved: objective (uninteresting genre, oversaturation with games of the same type), which are can not be helped, and subjective to GOG (lack of multiplayer, compared to Steam, lack of Galaxy client, lesser catalogue, compared to Steam, inferior support etc.) depending on GOG's actions (or inaction) that turn off customers away from GOG and into Steam.

I'd say, GOG has lost Linux market to Steam plain and square. This article gives us 81.1% of Steam being most used store and only 16.2% for GOG. Even Humble Store beats GOG (30.8%) nearly twice! And with this news regarding Galaxy… you know, Linux gamers are rather riled up (some are really fuming :) ).

I think, we can safely divide that 1.64% by 10, getting around 0.164% of revenue. Pretty bad. But GOG kinda shoot itself in the foot with this "we don't have resources" attitude. And I don't know about how MacOS users feel themselves here, but some are not too happy either.

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immi101: the statistic refers to general website traffic (including mobile devices).
Doubtful that this is synonym with the distribution of the PC gaming population.
Correct, GOG's (and Steam's as well) statistics among gamers is skewed against Linux due to not all games have native versions and some don't bother playing uninteresting to them games at all while others use WINE or dualboot to Windows (which rightfully make them Windows gamers but if that games were available on Linux they would count towards Linux instead).

CORRECTION: Yes, immi101 is right, we should exclude mobile OSes and normalize the data. After that:
Windows: 88.00%
MacOS X: 6.61%
Linux: 5.39%

After GOG's popularity correction Linux is 0.54% (still bad).
Post edited August 19, 2017 by Alm888
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