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@trent – Did you have any reaction to RWarehall revealing some of his PM information in post 143?

Based on your meta, I expected some sort of response from you. If you did, I missed it.
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cristigale: …flubb because he is always town, ....
Excellent point!

Vote: cristigale
Day 1 on the island, noon votecount
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

CSPVG has 2 votes: RWarehall, trenotnlf
cristigale has 2 votes: Bookwyrm627, flubbucket
Lifthrasil has 1 vote: Ixamyakxim
trentonlf has 1 vote: Krypsyn
Dessimu has 1 vote: cristigale
yogsloth has 1 vote: CSPVG
Ixamyakxim has 1 vote: Dessimu

Not voting, 3 people: dedoporno, Lifthrasil, yogsloth
More notes from me. Oh, the fun we shall have.

#185 - dedo -

Yes, but then I'd have to paint myself in a bad light. No one wants that.

Besides, you know my relationship with the truth is inconsistent at best and that I never pay attention to anything game-related.

#186 - Dessimu -

A little bit too much 'woe is me' in this post. It is perfectly logical that people would find the way that you, and others, piled on the votes so early on in the game.

#189 - Ixam -

Vaguely uneasy about the first like here. It sounds almost as if you are advocating for a speedy end to day one.

#190 - Dessimu -

A defense based on flavour after an acknowledgement that your vote was, "...a bad play." and questioning Lifth's credibility due to a perfectly valid vote he placed on you. I like it not at all. I mean, if you wanted to take issue with Lifth, you could have easily brought up his fishing for night zero actions.

Not sure, after dedo's later comments, whether to chalk this all up to inexperience.


#192 - Trentonlf -

I don't really want to use this excuse, but it is true: I was being sarcastic/jokey in the first instance (I assumed Krypsyn was, too). I had asked yog (also jokingly) if he had a plan quite a bit earlier in the day, and I thought that it would be funny to ask and then just tell him to jog on when he offered one.

Furthermore, I don't really have a problem with him sharing a plan. After all, we don't have to follow yog's plan, and it could be interesting to see what he comes up with.

- In General -

I'd like to see Bookwyrm and flubbucket contributed more.

I still have nothing.

In conclusion: I am going to see where mixing root beer and gin gets me.
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cristigale: As far as I can see, your original vote on lxamyakim was based purely on flavor.
It really is, because like you and pretty much everyone else, except scum, I have nothing else solid to base my votes on. Someone has to be lynched though, for us to at least be better able to find the scum. And seeing how this game has a flavor, with many entanglements within family, I feel completely comfortable for basing my vote on flavor on Day 1. For it is uncertain, whether or not flavor has an impact on revealing scum. On Day 2 however we may be able to guess this better. So do not shoot me, please, when I do not shout with you all "voting on flavor is wrong".

Speaking of which, I found this wonderful video, showing how I feel about Ixamyakxim (no offense, it is flavor-wise).

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cristigale: After the stellar play in your first game (really, best game I’ve seen from a newbie), it’s hard to know if this was an honest mistake.
Thank you for the compliment.

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Krypsyn: 1) Only one person tole me what flavor of ice-cream they wanted.
Speaking of normal ice-cream and not some metaphorical tactical strategy thing, there is this one flavor here... How do I call it... Ice-cream with a flavor of egg liqueur and with mixed in dark chocolate chunks and raisins, soaked in rum. God, it's delicious! You should try some.

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CSPVG: ...if you wanted to take issue with Lifth, you could have easily brought up his fishing for night zero actions
We see things from different perspectives and I honestly fail to both see and understand what you mean about Lift's fishing. In other words, I neither agree, nor disagree here, I just want to understand this point in general.
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Dessimu: We see things from different perspectives and I honestly fail to both see and understand what you mean about Lift's fishing. In other words, I neither agree, nor disagree here, I just want to understand this point in general.
Post 82 is what I base my fishing allegations on. In it, Lifthrasil says, "But speaking of the murder a question to you all: What did you do last night?" He then goes on to say that he drank too much and then went to bed. This may just be him writing flavour for his own amusement, but this does not seem to be the case to me. It seems to me that he is earnestly asking whether or not anyone did anything last night, which I take as him fishing for any possible roles that had night zero actions (as there are in certain games).

Also (and this isn't addressed to just you, Dessimu), having skimmed back through the posts to find Lifth's post 82, it seems that Bookwyrm has posted a lot more than I remember him posting.
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Bookwyrm627: Vote Cristigale.

Insufficient evidence.
I don't get it. Why do you vote cristi? Are you saying you are voting on purpose on insufficient evidence? Or are you accusing cristi of acting on insufficient evidence?
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CSPVG: Yes, but then I'd have to paint myself in a bad light. No one wants that.
Why would some flavor paint you in a bad light?
Why would you care if flavor is what painted you in a bad light, especially if it was something you yourself said?
And last but not least, if you are so concerned that such statements may make you look bad why do you involve others who are neither more nor less likely to be guilty based on the provided flavor and speculation? You are basically trying to make others look bad intentionally while trying to keep yourself clean in the process. I can't say I appreciate that. Dad.

vote CSPVG
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cristigale: @trent – Did you have any reaction to RWarehall revealing some of his PM information in post 143?

Based on your meta, I expected some sort of response from you. If you did, I missed it.
RW did not try and use his PM to break the game or reveal a role, all he did was reveal a little flavor from his PM.



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trentonlf: A recruit for what? For saying that day one lynch is a random lynch? Is there any info to be had by town on day 1 to base a lynch on in most games? No, we usually look at each other and hope someone makes a some sort of slip and then they get piled on. That is very random.
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dedoporno: Really? That's rather uncharacteristic of you to "give up" like that and agree to the randomness in the end. I came to expect from you to always push for scum-hunting instead even though in some cases you end up demanding just a bit more than actually doing something about it, but that's another topic. Anyway, when did you change your mind or did I miss something?
I have not changed my stance on day one. I've always said all we can do is work together to find the scum. On day 1 there's no info, it's a crapshoot unless someone makes a slip or tries a "plan to make scum reveal themselves" and then they get voted. How has my stance changed when I say day 1 is a random lynch? How is day 1 not a random lynch? I'm not saying just pick someone at random and lynch them, just that there's no info to go on for day 1 and any lynch that happens will be random because of that.
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trentonlf: How has my stance changed when I say day 1 is a random lynch? How is day 1 not a random lynch? I'm not saying just pick someone at random and lynch them, just that there's no info to go on for day 1 and any lynch that happens will be random because of that.
This is the first time I see you saying that D1 is a random lynch. I apologize if you said it before, it's just the first time I register it.

It shouldn't be a random lynch. We may not have too much to work with and grasping at straws but that doesn't make it random at all. It's not random if it's based on something regardless of how strong or weak reason it may be.
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trentonlf: How has my stance changed when I say day 1 is a random lynch? How is day 1 not a random lynch? I'm not saying just pick someone at random and lynch them, just that there's no info to go on for day 1 and any lynch that happens will be random because of that.
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dedoporno: This is the first time I see you saying that D1 is a random lynch. I apologize if you said it before, it's just the first time I register it.

It shouldn't be a random lynch. We may not have too much to work with and grasping at straws but that doesn't make it random at all. It's not random if it's based on something regardless of how strong or weak reason it may be.
If we actually had any info to go on then day 1 would not be random. Grasping at straws is being random, and that's how day 1 will always be unless someone has a N0 action like Yogs did in flub's game that finds scum.
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cristigale: It is still the scummiest thing I have seen so far. Very little to go on this early in the game.
Huh. Okay.

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CSPVG: In conclusion: I am going to see where mixing root beer and gin gets me.
It'll get you a very bad taste in your mouth.

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Dessimu: Ice-cream with a flavor of egg liqueur and with mixed in dark chocolate chunks and raisins, soaked in rum.
It sounded okay, until you added raisins. Raisins are for muffins! :P

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CSPVG: ... it seems that Bookwyrm has posted a lot more than I remember him posting.
He seems pretty town to me.

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trentonlf: If we actually had any info to go on then day 1 would not be random.
Day 1 is never random ... well, it shouldn't be, at any rate.
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CSPVG: In conclusion: I am going to see where mixing root beer and gin gets me.
Perhaps you could try Not Your Father's Root Beer mixed with rum....a little bird told me it is pleasant.

Vote: cristigale
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CSPVG: Also (and this isn't addressed to just you, Dessimu), having skimmed back through the posts to find Lifth's post 82, it seems that Bookwyrm has posted a lot more than I remember him posting.
Sneaky, sneaky. I'd just spent a moment wondering whether you had actually out posted me, and if so, how I should feel about that.

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Lifthrasil: I don't get it. Why do you vote cristi? Are you saying you are voting on purpose on insufficient evidence? Or are you accusing cristi of acting on insufficient evidence?
There are two general ways to hunt scum. One is to hunt scum. I'm voting Cristi via the other way.
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Bookwyrm627: There are two general ways to hunt scum. One is to hunt scum. I'm voting Cristi via the other way.
Maybe you and Todd never did anything to the sofa king. My mistake.