Ahaha, you're both claiming protective roles? Hilarious stuff guys.

I am a plain old town doc.

On N1 (contrary to the request) I visited bjgamer. I was already thinking to protect out confirmed not-mafia and since I didn't know the reason for the request I wondered if it might a bluff or mind game they were playing with the mafia. As in trying to draw the kill by promising to be unguarded. Obviously now knowing the real reason for the request, that was a bit of a waste but never mind. If I hadn't picked bjgamer it still wasn't likely to have been Pookina so the outcome would have been the same.

I breadcrumbed my role on D1 in this weirdly written paragraph:

As if I'd normally forget to capitalise ZFR or randomly capitalise "Claim"! It spells DRC for Dr Catte. I didn't want to spell it out any longer because it would be more detectable the longer it got. I considered breadcrumbing my protection target at the beginning of D2 but it felt kind of pointless so I didn't bother.

My guess is that Joe is Mafia Rokebkocker and blocked Vitek and Dedo did the kill last night. Actually, I find the both of them claiming protective roles to be a bit too big of a coincidence. Makes me wonder if Dedo is actually a role cop and visited me last night as well as doing the kill.
For balance purposes it's not unheard of for the mafia to be allowed their factional kill in addition to their individual roles.


With the roles we do have (two investigative, one backup investigator and one protective) I think no lunch is strategically the best option here. I'd like nothing more for people to go, we believe you catte and then immediately lunch Joe or dedo but I accept that isn't realistic.

Bump as rerquested.

Second pass proofread version:

Ahaha, you're both claiming protective roles? Hilarious stuff guys.

I am a plain old town doc.

On N1 (contrary to the request) I visited bjgamer. I was already thinking to protect our confirmed not-mafia and, since I didn't know the reason for the request, I wondered if it might be a bluff or mind game they were playing with the mafia. As in trying to draw the kill by promising to be unguarded. Obviously now knowing the real reason for the request, that was a bit of a waste but never mind.
If I hadn't picked bjgamer I still wasn't likely to have picked Pookina so the outcome would have been the same.

I breadcrumbed my role on D1 in this weirdly written paragraph:

As if I'd normally forget to capitalise ZFR or randomly capitalise "Claim"! It spells DRC for Dr Catte. I didn't want to spell it out any longer because it would be more detectable the longer it got. I considered breadcrumbing my protection target at the beginning of D2 but it felt kind of pointless so I didn't bother.

My guess is that Joe is Mafia Rokebkocker and blocked Vitek and Dedo did the kill last night. Actually, I find the both of them claiming protective roles to be a bit too big of a coincidence. Makes me wonder if Dedo is actually a role cop and visited me last night as well as doing the kill.
For balance purposes it's not unheard of for the mafia to be allowed their factional kill in addition to their individual roles.


With the roles we do have (two investigative, one backup investigator and one protective) I think no lunch is strategically the best option here. I'd like nothing more for people to go, "we believe you, catte!" and then immediately lunch Joe or dedo, but I accept that isn't realistic.

Thenk you, I just can't stant to leave moistakes ones I knotice then.

Why do you think dedo rolecopped you, Catte? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to not claim something else than protective role if they did?

Well the three loosely confirmed players we have are all investigative roles, there was an obvious protective role vacuum. Rolecopping isn't even necessary, they could probably deduce that I'm a protective role and it makes most sense to try and counterclaim me (or set me up to counterclaim them as has happened).

If they claimed investigative roles, everyone would probably see through that straight away. They could try and claim roles that don't conflict with anything, but there's still a chance people would gravitate towards doc as being the most likely real claim. This way we've got a "Don't shoot me, they're the clones!" situation which gives them better odds.

It doesn't matter, I think we have this pretty well sewn up with two investigative roles. They can't kill both of you and there's a chance I might protect the right person!

I don't see how your claim is a counter-claim to mine but if that's the way you like to put it - knock yourself out, hopefully others won't buy it that easy. It's rather easy to claim that "plain old doc" last when you know it's safe and at the same time that role is better on paper and is likely to carry more weight than mine who is a poor man's version of it.

I can't say anything else at this point, all cards are on the table. I'd rather have another round of investigations so everyone has better odds at choosing correctly Tomorrow but if the majority wants to have a lynch Today I'm fine with voting both Catte and Joe.

As I said, nolynch is not something I like but I suppose it makes sense here as one of them should be speaking truth and so nmillar is theoretically bound to survive the night and have a result. Then if Joe is the truthful one (doubt it), there won't be any results.
Then mafia are bound to have roles too (possibly strongman) and I would rather not give them opportunity to mess with us.

Indeed. The below bit of Dedo's post makes me uneasy.
It could just be a bluff because he knows that transparently resisting a no lunch would be a bit of a giveaway, or it could be that they have tricks up their sleeve as you say. I'm almost certain Joe must be a roleblocker, and who knows what Dedo really is? Assuming Joe can block me, we can't really count on me being able to protect anyone.
But they can't kill both investigative roles!

I guess the question is then, do we try and co-ordinate our actions? Normally you wouldn't direct these sorts of things, but there might be value in it here. Nmillar can check whether a player has a gun or not, bjgamer is a watcher as far as I can tell?
I suppose the most sensible thing would be to watch nmillar and not protect him. If he dies we'll know who did it, if bjgamer dies we'll have a result from nmillar and be able to either clear or lunch one of the three of us.

I breadcrumbed it on D1, my claim actually predates yours.
Have you got anything from earlier to support "Bodyguard Bookie"?

The thing about breadcrumbs is that they can be faked and in case they don't work they can be left hidden under tons of content. Especially ones that are intentionally vague so they are harder to detect.

I've never ever done any breadcrumbs, so no, I don't. I only have my word.

Well of course they can be faked, but my point is that I claimed doc very early on. I didn't really claim it last as you suggested. It's up to the others to decide whether I'd blindly fake a doc claim at that point or not.

Woah, hold on.

Are we all forgetting Pooka flipped Town Drunk (Rokebkocker)?

And Joe is claiming Town Jailer? I don't think so.

Well, well, well ... I eagerly await Joe's response to this.

Glad to do it! (The time interval made it funny, but i am sorry that i couldn't do it in real-time.)