OK, I'm a bit nervous here.

Those of you who know Vitek better, is he as scum in this situation more likely to say "damn! Looks like you got me dead to rights" or "I guess ZFR is dead"?

SORRY: POSTED IN ADMIN THREAD BY MOISTAKE

Unvote Vitek

Before you go (if Vitek is town), why didn't you wait and see if there's a redirector or some other explanation? I guess the idea of there being a universal backup and a backup gunsmith was just too much for you? Still, if Vitek is mafia we could have just lynched him and saved you for another day...

Hmm, I feel like Vitek would keep up the charade.

I'll tell you why.

I decided to wait at first. Vote him and see what comes out. Seemed like waiting was better for Town. Then I thought: where was Town when I was NKed N1 again and again and again? How did they help me? Did they think of poor ZFR? Well, never again! This time I'm using my power, Town be damned. I'm not getting NKed before I do something.

I think I know, but I'm not going to say. No reason to give the mafia any extra help. If you die and I get trent's permission to do so I'll tell you in a PM (it'd have to be one way, you couldn't tell me what you think about it)..

Well that's A reason. I don't know if it was the best one, but I guess we'll see!

If you'd know I am town (either by flip or you dying), you're still OK with catte?


And when I won't die you will do what? Ignore it with "well, nmillar had to speak truth even if it contradicts Vitek, confirmed non-mafia"?

On a more serious note, I thought of saving my shot for a better time. But then I thought will there be a better time? The Vig is a tough role because if you're wrong you don't just waste a shot, you hurt Town in the process. Here we have 2 pieces of circumstantial evidence: nmillar's accusation and unlikely double-role. Maybe this is as good a chance as I'll get. Maybe saving it for later causes me to kill a Townie at a crucial stage. At least misfiring this early gives you time to recover and clears nmillar/Vitek situation.

eh, sometimes you just have to make a decision.

If I ever get vig shot, I will shoot everything that moves no matter the consequences so I get you.
Over the course of my 26 games I got to do 1 night kill total and that's the single tiem I got to off anyone directly. I thirst for blood.

If you don't die then I won't tell you. I never said anything about ignoring nmillar, I just said I won't talk about the role you're asking about in the game. I feel like you completely missed my point.


But if you were a universal backup then you could have been a backup for a more useful, possibly not 1-shot role right?

Still, I appreciate your decisiveness.

:(

I... don't know.

He feels Townish this game. Then again by PoE if it can't be you nor BJG, that leaves catte, Joe, nmillar and dedo. Gut says Joe and catte are Town, but why would nmillar take a huge gambit and falsely accuse you in this situation. It's not in Mafia's interest to go 1 for 1.


No. I'm stuck with the role of whoever dies first (Town).

Hey, could have been that PGO. Finally a good time to be NKed.

Ah, I see now. Seems like Lift did us another favour in parting then.
It would have been pretty funny if you'd inherited PGO and then not been NK'd.

I can't say I understand why.


By allowing us to lose another player...


Do you do words?

Yup, I even mentioned it here:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_68_acme_on_the_brink_of_collapse/post195

"@Lift, well played. Even better than you think. "


Well, knowing how I feel now, I promise that if I'm ever scum and I'm killed but still can talk, I'll do everything in my power to pretend I'm genuine Town just to make the guy who killed/lynched me sweat a bit.

If mafia were first to go, would you get their role?

See, here's a difference. That's something I would never do. ;-)

Who am I kidding? I would. But it's not what I am doing here.