Sometimes it's hard to spot tiny little canary feathers amongst the great big rooster ones.

okay yes, so why do Vitek and nmillar get scumpoints for scumreading pooka?

It's as though you're suggesting
The people who townread pooka aren't scum. Therefore the people who scumread pooka are.


when maybe the logic should be something more like:

The people who were alone in thinking pooka was town aren't scum. Therefore the people who were alone in thinking pooka was scum ARE.



There's more options than those two, but the less we speculate on it the better really, as we can't know until we get more information and can see the whole picture, and we want to keep information away from the mafia for now.

HMMM

I think I recall a previous game where Yogsloth, or possibly someone else saying something like "It's not an odd choice of kill at all, [suchandsuch] was basically absent the whole time, so the mafia killing them denies the town any useful information" or something to that effect. Anybody else recall something like that? Was it Yogsloth?

Why does my pondering keep dredging up half-remembered things that Yogsloth probably said? Maybe I just miss him.

Sorry, everyone for being so absent. The notice for our rented place is due on Monday so we need to finish moving by the end of tomorrow. I'll do my very best to catch up in a few hours (I'm writing this and I don't even know what has happened during the day so far) but in case you cannot or don't want to wait for me 1-2 more days before being able to post normally I might ask Trent for a replacement. I'm really sorry I'm affecting the game :(

Eek! I think the move takes precedence. I'm happy to wait until you've finished moving - seems like the weekend is going to be slow anyway. We've only had 5 (now 6) posts since I posted last night.
Maybe trent will extend the Day a couple of days to compensate for your absence?

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What?

Vitek and nmillar got 0 (zero) scum points for scumreading Pooka from me.

Moving is rough, and RL takes precedence. We'll also will be a bit more absent the next couple of days, so please do what you need to do and GL with your move. Hope you enjoy your new place!

My apologies for the absence, everyone. Yesterday evening B was diagnosed with pneumonia. He has had it 8 times before and is very susceptible to it. They have verified it is not Covid and we will be taking care of him at home as our local hospitals are already at capacity. I will try to keep up as I can, but my attention will mainly be on getting him well. I've already informed our host and will try to be back later to catch up and answer questions.

That's rough, I wish him a speedy recovery! Great news that it's not COVID.

No issue extending the Day, as always I’ll give plenty of notice before the Day ends.

Get well soon, 0.5 of BJG.

Well, everyone made their appearance, and since it seems no one has any smoking gun evidence I'm going to do place my vote after I do a more thorough reread this weekend.

I'm here now and catching up. Exhausted af but will read everything.

Wasn't Joe's read based on the Joest reasoning possible (something Trent said to Pooka...)? Regardless, why Town-reading Pooka automatically gives Joe Town points? If he is scum he can make the best Town-reads all game and he'd be correct most of the time. I hope you're not giving Joe credit in the context of your own Town-lean on Pooka.


Why? Unless there is a strong indication about it there is no reason to make an assumption against the more likely scenario. Even if that happens to be the case it's rarely a great idea to focus on neutrals or mechanics in general and neglect the actual scum going about.

But he [ZFR] cut GH all kinds of slack and only reverted to voting him after GH got entangled in his own mess of explanations and half-truths. ZFR couldn't have known that GH keep digging himself down like that to allow him to re-vote safely. If that was a scum move it was a very ballsy one to risk what was pretty much a free lynch. I don't mean to deny ZFR's skill but this is pushing it, in my opinion.


Thank you! And it is awesome :)

I hope they get well very soon and in the best possible way.


All caught up, I'm glad it wasn't a whole ton of posts.


On Pooka's NK - I also didn't see it coming but I agree with whomever said it was likely a low/no-info kill as he wasn't generally Town-read but neither scum-read.

There seems to be an ongoing exchange between Catte (who is a lot more active than what I've come to expect of him - I love that but at the same time I'm not sure what and if it means something) and Vitek. Nmillar appears to be subtly backup Catte up on it. I'm quite tired and didn't strain myself too much while reading so I may have missed some context between the lines and will go over it again on Monday.

*Obligatory post to not go whole day without any*

Quite so. Ah, so that's what the wolf pelt comment means. Makes sense for the (original?) Werewolf version. Thank you.

Not neglecting, nor solely concentrating on, fitting into the puzzle pieces and testing theories.
Thank you for sharing your experience and opinion.

Good to hear! :) Especially as moving always seems to get more time consuming than one expects.

Thank you for the good wishes all. B is resting and I'm rather tired so will try to review everything tomorrow.


I do have a question -
@Joe, @nmillar: Why didn't you change your vote to GH once the discrepancies were revealed?

AFAIK, mafia is the earliest recorded version. Someone rethemed it to werewolf because they thought it was more relatable and fit the mechanics better (although that doesn't quite make sense, you can't keep having nights with a full moon indefinitely!). I'm a traditionalist though, none of this werewolf nonsense for me.

I don't collect wolf pelts, I collect goombah scalps! ¬_¬



Good question. I'll wait for their answers before giving any thoughts.