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Posted August 12, 2020
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Vitek: I just installed brand new graphics card. I am not interested in your petty squabbles anymore.
Serious question: That nice to hear....what brand and model is it, if you don't mind my asking?

(That aside: I am getting a sort of "vibe" re: me and my play style in some of your posts.....of course might be my imagination, but it seems to be there. If you want we can discuss such after the game, but for now....if you're town, I would like us to focus on working together to win the game)
Posted August 12, 2020
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my name is coole catte: That's pretty much the point I was making in 370, and that was before the realisation that the whole novice thing completely messes up the earlier explanations for some of the things he did. If we don't embarrass him now, he'll just be this giant unresolvable question mark for the rest of the game.
Well a lynch isn't needed to get rid of the potential liability that is me: I could go alive and unprotected into N1 and get NKd(and if not get voted on D2), or any possible applicable PRs look into me and/or protect me on N1 & I then become more of an asset for town(but then possible PRs would be wasting such on me, as I said).

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@ZFR: Do what you will...but make sure to analyze the wagon if I get lynched, and also make note of my suspicions in Post 380
Posted August 12, 2020
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GymHenson: Well a lynch isn't needed to get rid of the potential liability that is me: I could go alive and unprotected into N1 and get NKd(and if not get voted on D2), or any possible applicable PRs look into me and/or protect me on N1 & I then become more of an asset for town(but then possible PRs would be wasting such on me, as I said).
Hah, I lolle!

You think that if you are town the mafia are going to pass up on a distraction like that?

If you're a mafia PGO and lied about the novice thing then you could just be trying to get the cop and/or doc to get themselves blown to smithereens.

The later we leave it to deal with you the more trouble it's going to cause us.
Posted August 12, 2020
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Vitek: The same way you could ask what kind of town play is that?
I suppose so but I think it's more likely to have a confused Townie play than a confused mafia play in this manner.

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GymHenson: Well a lynch isn't needed to get rid of the potential liability that is me: I could go alive and unprotected into N1 and get NKd(and if not get voted on D2), or any possible applicable PRs look into me and/or protect me on N1 & I then become more of an asset for town(but then possible PRs would be wasting such on me, as I said).
I'm afraid that's not how that works anymore at this point.
Posted August 12, 2020
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my name is coole catte: You think that if you are town the mafia are going to pass up on a distraction like that?
Seeing as they have one night to get rid of me, and likely don't want to leave me in the game too long, I would assume they'd make a try at NKing me on N1 if I make it that far.

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my name is coole catte: If you're a mafia PGO and lied about the novice thing then you could just be trying to get the cop and/or doc to get themselves blown to smithereens.
I am guessing if I were scum it would only hit one of them...and it'd out me and i'd get lynched the next day, were I scum.

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my name is coole catte: The later we leave it to deal with you the more trouble it's going to cause us.
All i'll say is I would be a better asset re: my vote....but if you want to make the same mistake other town did in prior games("Oh let's get rid of that distraction GR") then fine by me.
Posted August 12, 2020
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GymHenson: Seeing as they have one night to get rid of me, and likely don't want to leave me in the game too long, I would assume they'd make a try at NKing me on N1 if I make it that far.
And give up on a juicy distraction? Why would they do that? If they kill you, it confirms you to be town. If they leave you alive then you continue to be a question mark, one which can't be resolved by anything other than a lynch after that.

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GymHenson: I am guessing if I were scum it would only hit one of them...and it'd out me and i'd get lynched the next day, were I scum.
Right, you'd get one of them killed without the mafia even needing to look for them. Of course it would out you, but that's pretty much a given for a PGO. Worth it to take a valuable town power role out early on I would think.

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GymHenson: All i'll say is I would be a better asset re: my vote....but if you want to make the same mistake other town did in prior games("Oh let's get rid of that distraction GR") then fine by me.
You made yourself a distraction...
Posted August 12, 2020
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my name is coole catte: You think that if you are town the mafia are going to pass up on a distraction like that?
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GymHenson: Seeing as they have one night to get rid of me, and likely don't want to leave me in the game too long, I would assume they'd make a try at NKing me on N1 if I make it that far.
Sorry, but they won't. Not when they have a proven Innocent Child to kill instead and can likely hit a PR with pretty much any kill they make.

If you are Town:
I kind of wish I haven't thought of the Mafia PGO. But it seemed so perfect, everything fit in place I was sure I'm right. I should shower less.
I can't be even mad at you for playing badly. It was heck of a difficult role to play. I don't know how I would have played a PGO myself.
Sorry I contributed in taking you out early.

If you are scum:
That wolf pelt belongs to me. Period.

Vote Gym
Posted August 12, 2020
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my name is coole catte: And give up on a juicy distraction? Why would they do that? If they kill you, it confirms you to be town. If they leave you alive then you continue to be a question mark, one which can't be resolved by anything other than a lynch after that.
They left me alive in the HP game and it turned out to bite them in the butt. I am inclined to think they might go after me N1.....but you could also be just as right.

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my name is coole catte: Right, you'd get one of them killed without the mafia even needing to look for them. Of course it would out you, but that's pretty much a given for a PGO. Worth it to take a valuable town power role out early on I would think.
But if there are only 2 scum and I was scum it'd halve the scum team in the process once I got lynched.
Posted August 12, 2020
Vote Count

Pookina (2) -------------------voted by nmillar (post 13), GymHenson (post 285)
GymHenson(4)---------------voted by Catte (Post 370), dedo (post 359), Vitek (post 362), ZFR (post 412)
nmillar(1)-----------------------voted by JoeSapphire (Post 301)

It takes 5 to reach a lynch, GymHenson is closest at L-1

Day will end in 6-7 hours
Post edited August 12, 2020 by trentonlf
Posted August 12, 2020
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GymHenson: They left me alive in the HP game and it turned out to bite them in the butt. I am inclined to think they might go after me N1.....but you could also be just as right.
That's a complete nonsense comparison. You were a cop in that game!
(and FWIW I was on that team and said we should take you out straight away, but Yogs was having none of it :P)

You're not a cop. If you're telling the truth, you're a town PGO and the mafia won't touch you with a bargepole. Literally the only danger you would pose to them would be if they try and kill you. What would be the point?

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GymHenson: But if there are only 2 scum and I was scum it'd halve the scum team in the process once I got lynched.
It's quite likely but not a complete given that there are 2 scum. You seem awful confident about the number though.
Posted August 12, 2020
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GymHenson: But if there are only 2 scum and I was scum it'd halve the scum team in the process once I got lynched.
Not sure what you're getting at here ... surely halving the scum is a good thing?
Posted August 12, 2020
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ZFR: Sorry, but they won't. Not when they have a proven Innocent Child to kill instead and can likely hit a PR with pretty much any kill they make.
So if you're town as I suspect, you'd risk taking out 2 town in one day(me and BJGamer)? Really?

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@Trent: You forgot ZFR's vote on me

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my name is coole catte: (and FWIW I was on that team and said we should take you out straight away, but Yogs was having none of it :P)
And now you're trying to take me out again....interesting.

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my name is coole catte: You're not a cop. If you're telling the truth, you're a town PGO and the mafia won't touch you with a bargepole. Literally the only danger you would pose to them would be if they try and kill you. What would be the point?
My vote against scum and to keep a (albeit not confirmed) town(me) alive, instead of likely going into D2 with 2 less town.

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my name is coole catte: It's quite likely but not a complete given that there are 2 scum. You seem awful confident about the number though.
Now you're reaching....I said "if there are only 2 scum"...which is based on what others said before.

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Other town players: If lynched look into Catte pl0x....also Vitek and the others I said in Post 380.

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@Nmillar: I meant that if I were scum and someone from town targeted me and got taken out, town could take me out the next day and likely halve the scum team....which would be good for town and likely worth such a risk(of someone using such a PR on me).
Post edited August 12, 2020 by GymHenson
Posted August 12, 2020
Well sh*t.....I double posted...sorry for that, everyone.

(I reported it to Trent already btw)

IRL noise and such was/is stressing me out a bit and making it hard to concentrate, and I hit reply a few minutes too soon.
Posted August 12, 2020
I saw GH's post before the merge, I don't think he's edited anything. The original post ended with the message to Trent.

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GymHenson: And now you're trying to take me out again....interesting.
I just described how those situations are completely different and why you're more valuable to the mafia alive... so I'm not really sure what you're getting at. Unless you're suggesting I have some kind of meta-vendetta against you?

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GymHenson: My vote against scum and to keep a (albeit not confirmed) town(me) alive, instead of likely going into D2 with 2 less town.
Well exactly, you're not confirmed and we assume they only get one kill per night... so why would they NK someone who's going to attract a buttload of attention?

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GymHenson: Now you're reaching....I said "if there are only 2 scum"...which is based on what others said before.
Fair enough, I'll strike that one from the record. I'll reply to this one again then:
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GymHenson: But if there are only 2 scum and I was scum it'd halve the scum team in the process once I got lynched.
If you're scum you're already pretty cornered at this point, might as well try and escape the lynch today to see if you can attract a cop or doc and take them out. If you're going down you might as well try and take someone with you.
Posted August 12, 2020
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ZFR: Sorry, but they won't. Not when they have a proven Innocent Child to kill instead and can likely hit a PR with pretty much any kill they make.
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GymHenson: So if you're town as I suspect, you'd risk taking out 2 town in one day(me and BJGamer)? Really?
Seriously?
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