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Nmillar
Pooka
SPF
GH
ZFR
Vitek
Dedo

ELIMINATING:

ZFR - for the conflict with Gym
Pooka - for drawing attention to himself, and then getting uppity when I townread him for it
Vitek - for wanting to put all the players in order and doing it in a bizarre way and forgetting a player

LEAVING:
NMillar
Catte
Gym
Dedo

OF THOSE:

Town lean
Gym - I might just be being way too trusting but I think he's honest
PRE-POST EDIT - it really looks like he's been breadcrumbing details and is prepared to claim a power role...
PRE-POST EDIT II - the claim makes sense. with the vagueness of the breadcrumbing.

Votable:
Catte
NMillar
Dedo

Catte has been a bit aggressive and less lurky. I forget where we are with him now? Is that a scumtell or just how his game is now? Without metagaming I understand his logic with regards Gym

NMillar is fairly typical - lurky but aggressive. Sticks to the shadows but comes screaming out of the woodwork with a suckerpunch.
Actually looking at it NMillar is less lurky than I think... certainly more active than I've been. I like his response to Gym breadcrumbing too, direct and pointedly trying to avoid giving away info.

Dedo had some nice-feeling scumhunty stuff going on talking to ZFR about Gym. I don't know how I feel about calling on Gym to claim. On the one hand I get why town would want resolution to Gym's puzzling behaviour, on the other hand I see how mafia would want the information. I guess mafia would be less likely to be so open about it though...

OKAY. I've thought it over and I've done that thing again where everybody's town. I spose my least townest read is Catte so

Vote mynameiscoolecatte

Finally, I just want to say that the mafia is Vitek and Dedoporno. Not that anybody cares what I think...
So, what you meant by this?

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GymHenson: So you noticed that "typo" but not the more obvious on...err, I mean nothing to see here. *whistles*

(Also an aside: role madness doesn't mean everyone would be PRs, afaik....so anyone with PRs would still be somewhat important, though I guess not as much so as if a game is a "normal" style game)
Arey ou traing to get lynched? Why would you ever crumb such role as town?
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GymHenson: Ok then.....my PR is: Paranoid Gun Owner
I knew you were going to say this! Well, technically I thought you were going to say Bomb but I had the two roles mixed up and the Paranoid Gun Owner is what I was actually thinking of.

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GymHenson: BTW I crumbed this subtly with both my title and two recent posts:

Post 149 - Flint is the dog from Parasite Eve 2, owned by a gun owner who is likely paranoid.

Post 183 - I told Lift Space Cowboy Fella...i.e. Fellow Cowboy, or fellow gunman.
These are a bit iffy though. Your other crumbs were effectively flour bags and these are impossible to make a connection to, in my personal opinion.

Let's assume all of this is true. Can you now explain in more detail exactly what you were trying to achieve by doing things the way you did?
I believe you.

It struck me towards the end of the conversation that you could be a PR who wants to be targeted by Mafia (bomb, party host), but I didn't want to bring it up so as not to give Scum any ideas.

PGO fits with what you did. Not sure if you played it right; it's a difficult PR to play.
I was leaning towards Joe's suggestion of not claiming - you were town-read - however given the role, I think the claim was a good decision. You were more likely to attract a Town investigation than an NK.

Anyway, this narrows down stuff for me.

Vote nmillar
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GymHenson: But with all the interest on me as of late it was likely one or more of my fellow town would look into me, and(if they did so) be taken out in the process.....
yeah it makes sense now I see it.

Hm... you know what would have been great, if Lift could have aimed at Gym... I guess hindsight is a warm oil-soaked rag and all that...
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JoeSapphire: Finally, I just want to say that the mafia is Vitek and Dedoporno. Not that anybody cares what I think...
What the heck? You just copied my bragging rights, and you did it when the pool is smaller by 2 players.

Judge rules: Not valid.

Court is adjourned! (or whatever it is the judge says after passing judgment)
Replied to Joe and Vitek

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JoeSapphire: Dedo had some nice-feeling scumhunty stuff going on talking to ZFR about Gym. I don't know how I feel about calling on Gym to claim. On the one hand I get why town would want resolution to Gym's puzzling behaviour, on the other hand I see how mafia would want the information. I guess mafia would be less likely to be so open about it though...
To be fair I stated a few times I was going to claim, and at least 20ish hours before deadline....so he might've just been reminding me of that.

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Vitek: So, what you meant by this?
I outright stated in POST 72 that I had a PR.....yet no one commented on it.

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Vitek: Arey ou traing to get lynched? Why would you ever crumb such role as town?
It was more or less a claim and a test of sorts.

I kept it vague to try to keep the town benefit of the PR as long as I could, while also seeing how other players would react to a repeat of the "crumbing" from the HP game.

I was planning to claim if and when I needed, but also tried to keep it secret for a bit longer if possible(while keeping town from triggering my PR's effects if I could, and maybe hitting scum in the night).

Sadly I couldn't accomplish that...and as I didn't want to have town target me and get taken out during N1, and didn't want to be lynched and lose town my vote(and also not be able to play any more), I claimed.
And searching for "bragging" made me see that my bragging rights were same as Pooka's who made them earlier.

...

What the heck? How could I miss it?

I did make mine when all 10 players were in game though.

Judge rules...

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... Not valid!

:(
I'm interested to see what Catte makes of this.
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dedoporno: These are a bit iffy though. Your other crumbs were effectively flour bags and these are impossible to make a connection to, in my personal opinion.
They were meant to stay hidden, like proper crumbs...while the others were meant to be seen easily and replied to(so I could puzzle my fellow players out as best I could).

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dedoporno: Let's assume all of this is true. Can you now explain in more detail exactly what you were trying to achieve by doing things the way you did?
I was trying to do the above, and also perhaps go into N1 with my PR hidden and maybe catch a scum with my PR while also hopefully keeping other town from targeting me(and getting taken out in the process).

But as I said a few posts above, too much focus was on me as of late and it was likely town would look into me or target me during the night despite my efforts to prevent it. As I didn't want other town getting taken out along with scum I decided to claim early instead of on D2 or so.

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(Bump please)
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GymHenson: I was trying to do the above, and also perhaps go into N1 with my PR hidden and maybe catch a scum with my PR while also hopefully keeping other town from targeting me(and getting taken out in the process).
I think you overdid it a bit :) But I do believe that's what you were doing as it felt like that even if a bit too obvious.

Here's your bump.
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ZFR: And searching for "bragging" made me see that my bragging rights were same as Pooka's who made them earlier.
lolwhut?

I'd love to say I did it as scathing humour but that'd be lying, and lies make baby kthulhu weep.*

so, what are we saying? Vitek and Dedo actually are mafia?..




*and, as we know, when baby kthulhu weeps the incandescent stars yawn wide and the anecroic reaches of palpable aether beyond gaze upon us as we gibber and writhe in unknowable torment, so it is imerative that they are not made to weep.
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JoeSapphire: OKAY. I've thought it over and I've done that thing again where everybody's town. I spose my least townest read is Catte so

Vote mynameiscoolecatte

Finally, I just want to say that the mafia is Vitek and Dedoporno.
Right.
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dedoporno: I think you overdid it a bit :) But I do believe that's what you were doing as it felt like that even if a bit too obvious.

Here's your bump.
Thanks.

And yeah, I overdid it....the CrUmbing style "crumbing", that is....but then that was the point(to see how people would react to it, and get everyone to focus on it and not the actual crumbs on my PR).

I was planning on full claiming soon enough if need be.....in this case it just came sooner than I would've liked.

(As I said: Optimally I would've liked to have attracted scum to target me and town to leave me alone on N1, and hopefully take out a scum...but that was not to be. Ah well, I was able to lean a few players as town because of the "crumbing" and Lift helped us on his way out of the game as well....so there's a good chance town can win this one, I think)
It's all so bad and mishandled but I guess it makes sense? At least from person who chose BIll Murray as character in Looney Tunes games.

But it's also so convenient role to explain why one doesn't get NK'ed by mafia and the specific role crumns came only after being scrutinized.
Yet I guess I am inclined to buy it as it makes sense in some twisted way.