Well I like Bill Murray as an actor in general and in that film, and essentially he is part of the 'verse' due to that, so I decided: Why play a toon when I can be a bit more unique?

Fair points

FWIW, though(for any who may be curious), the reasons for my delayed dropping of PR crumbs were two-fold: I didn't want to out my PR too early(just in case someone on the scum team spotted even the actual subtle crumbs), and I also was a bit preoccupied with the strategy behind the "cRumBing" and scrutinizing the replies to it.

We have a replacement, Tweety will be showing up at some point :)
With a new player joining I will extend the end of day. I will try to give at least 24 hour notice.

Sounds good.

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Will hit the hay soon....have a good one till then, ya'll.

I thought I saw a Pootty Cat ... I did, I did see TWO Pootty Cats. Looking at you ZFR and CooleCatte. :p

Okay, well at least we (wife and I) are already current on what has been happening so far. Fair warning, this is the first time actually playing and the last game we had time to follow was ZFR's HP, so references to more recent games or meta-reads we won't actually be up on. Thanks to Lift's Desperado play, at least we are confirmed town.

That said - the recent antics of Bill - Gym - can be seen for both town and mafia play.
Town - from the beginning we wondered if this was a party host bait, and at the very least a drawing out of reactions to see who would push on more details. (We were unfamiliar with PGO/Bomb.)
Mafia - if there are only 2 (likely for balance from what we've read in the past) and there is a godfather, then this is a good role to claim to prevent a goon from being investigated.

For now Tweety wants to keep an eye on this possibility while not voting GH for this first night, and analyzing the responses, as well as marking out who did not respond.

Still eying those pootty cats too ...

Aha, correction ... the wife reminded me that the duck dressed up as a pootty cat once in a toon, but sly Sylvester is actually dedo, possibly slinking around.

Apologies, your Daffiness, must be all those breadcrumbs got swept into my cage so I mistook you.

Thank you both very much for stepping in! I've been hoping you would find time to play someday soon, and i really hope that you enjoy it!

Well, I don't think there's any other better leads. I still don't like GH for crumbing a vague PR rather than something already established, like I don't know, the role he actually got in the PM. And since I'm not voting anybody (according to the last vote count at least (then again, I can unvote without names now)):

Unvote
Vote GymHenson.

Welcome to the game. Good to finally have you!

Welcome!
Enjoy your comfortable position and show us your mad skillz.

Welcome to the game! We love to having you for dinner.

JK! "Birdth are off my litht; that one sort of upset my stomach." Can't say the same about that other cat, though as he is nowhere to be found...

Besides GH and his shenanigans what do you make of the rest of the ensemble?


@Trent, can we have a vote count, please?

Okay, this actually makes a lot of sense, and I can see why you would want to hint at a PR in the attempt to draw scum attention. However, with the discussions that have taken place, I think it's been a good move to reveal the role now, as you likely would have been visited by at least one town role during the night phase.

The bit that interests me, however is whether "bulletproof" has been included with this particular role (i.e. if somebody targets you, do you shoot first, rendering any visits - investigative roles / night kill - useless?).

Please don't answer this question now, I'm just including it as part of my thought process, but this may be something to come back to later on when it could be put to good use.

So, as I'm currently buying in to your role claim, my suspicions lie with those who still have you as their primary target, so unless I've missed something that's Catte and Pookina, with who my vote already lies, so I don't see any reason to move it.

@ mod, can we have a new vote count please? It appears Vitek has two votes counting. Thanks.

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Thanks! We are still on an odd schedule but should finally be able to give it a good try. :) Of course this could be a short life - confirmed town does not mean out of danger ...


Thank you. Still a lot to learn, but we will give it a go ... and did we read a hint of a new HP by ZFR coming?


I don't know about our mad skillz, (you seem to have double voting privileges!) but thank you for the welcome. :)


LOL! Yeah, like I trust what that sly Sylvester says! Okay folks, if the bird dies, check the teeth for tail-feathers! Cats first, but anyone using a yellow toothpick could be suspect too. :p

Actually we do have some thoughts and questions. It will take a bit to type out and tie together so we'll respond to your more serious question in another post.

It’s sure, I say it’s sure quiet around here, you could hear a caterpillar sneakin’ across a moss bed in tennis shoes.

Though I think it's just Catte and I that are UK based (Joe doesn't count as the resident insomniac), with only Dedo close to the same time zone, so shouldn't really expect much for the next few hours.

Now who’s, I say who’s responsible for this unwarranted attack on my person!

Not sure why you think I'm more / less lurky than I am in any other game I have participated in? If you're going by my online status, then that's down to me leaving the forum open in a tab while I'm "working". And if that's really the reason, then damn, your stalking skills are on point!

You haven't posted in more than 1 day (can't tell exactly from timestamps) and when I mentioned your name you posted right away.
That's what felt lurky.
I never go by online status, I am not a stalker. :-)

Sorry about that, got called to track down some buggy code so this reply took longer and is not as complete as we'd intended ... but a start.

Straight out, nobody is 'town' for us yet.

@Joe
You read Pookina as town due to Trent's post on remembering who to unvote shouldn't be that difficult. Was that just a feeling based on Trent, or did you have other reads on Pookina also?

@Pookina
In post 52 you mentioned another forum you've been playing in where posting theoretical role questions to break out of RVS is common. Could you tell us where or post a link? (Maybe we can learn more also.) Your play seems a bit different than how we remember. That could just be how your game has evolved, possibly due to that forum, but combined with your not wanting to remember your votes and continuing to push the GH vote, it has us questioning - unless someone else can verify it is a thing in Mafia games elsewhere? Is there any particular reason you think GH could only be mafia pushing that scenario?

We would also like to see more of that other pootty Catte's reads.

nmillar we have not seen play before but seems to be playing the way others have mentioned other times. Thanks also for the thought we might have to consider modifiers for non-vanilla roles.

Currently our top list to be questioning motives of correlate with nmillar's - Pookina and Catte.

There were more correlations and questions we had in mind but while we have odd hours we're western USA and getting fuzzy thinking from being up over 24 hours now so will have to try to pick up the trail of those thoughts again later. Please feel free to point out faulty or 'bird-brained' reasoning. ;)