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nmillar: If you're town, please stop giving away information to the mafia.
What information did I give away? What I said is basic mafia game play strategy, and likely known by those on all sides.

Also it's not like i'm asking or want any said investigative role(if we have one) to say such....if you might be trying to insinuate that.
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nmillar: If you're town, please stop giving away information to the mafia.
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GymHenson: What information did I give away? What I said is basic mafia game play strategy, and likely known by those on all sides.

Also it's not like i'm asking or want any said investigative role(if we have one) to say such....if you might be trying to insinuate that.
So far you've implied you have a PR, but you're not the cop.
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GymHenson: Maybe because if I have a PR it is very important? Why else would I bother?
I had something in mind but I was likely wrong and I'll leave you alone now.

But apparently you don't feel like leaving yourself alone :D Anyway, I'm done.


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ZFR: Of course, there is always the possibility that fellow Mafia day-chat coached him to do it.
Day-chat?
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nmillar: So far you've implied you have a PR, but you're not the cop.
There's many other PRs....it doesn't exactly narrow it down for them that much.

Sidenote: Tbh at this point I don't think scum would go after such low hanging fruit(as ZFR sort of hinted in Post # 103) and expose themselves so much.....so I will lean you slightly town for the time being.
(Hopefully that won't bite me in the gluteus maximus later)
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GymHenson: If we have a cop they could investigate me.....that way if I was scum(totally not tho) town could lynch me, and if I was town I wouldn't be a distraction.
But for that to happen we'd need the cop to be a moronic moron.

Read what nmillar wrote. Pooka's hypothetical discussions are something, but real role discussions are just bad.

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dedoporno: Day-chat?
Yes. Which part confuses you? "Day"? "Chat"?
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GymHenson: Of course that would likely expose such a role if they had to out me....but it'd be worth it if i were scum to lose one town player and then halve(?) the scum team.
Halve? Are we certain the scum are two people?
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GymHenson: Of course that would likely expose such a role if they had to out me....but it'd be worth it if i were scum to lose one town player and then halve(?) the scum team.
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dedoporno: Halve? Are we certain the scum are two people?
Yes we are. 3 vs 7 means that a Day 1 mislynch puts us at MYLO on D2. Not something a host would do.
2 vs 1 vs 7 is possible (with 1 being either a neutral or scum), but regardless, any scum "team" is made up of 2 people.

I really don't like this question of dedo. Has a subtle "hey, I don't know how many people the Mafia team has because I'm not Mafia" LAMIST feel to it.
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Pookina: Of course someone would talk about roles and night actions in a Role Madness game. It was only a matter of time.

Besides, I'm still not sure why he would even frame it like that. Rolefishing is attempting to know what role he has so that mafia could make an informed night kill decision. Giving him the burden of a random role doesn't help Mafia make a good call.
While claiming or when it comes to it in otehr natural way. You brought it up while it was not necessary. It's not the same thing.

Don't you think there is chance talking about PR's could lead to some conjectures about roles from people reactions and then be used by mafia to possibly make correct assumptions? I do and that's why I find it at least slightly bordrering fishing territory.
Also you never know what will make someone claim PR with no reason. Right, GH?
What if one was to answer you who would they target and later someone would claim exactly the same course of actions happened. I feel like it would add unnecessary layer of confusion to the situation.


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ZFR: To summarize: both Mafia and SK-JOAT role-copped him N1 and identified him as cop. He threw obvious bReadCRumBs D2 about the Townie he investigated. And still, both SK and Mafia decide not to kill him N2. Which backfired badly because same Night he identified a Mafia. He was protected N3, and finally killed successfully N4.
Awwww, how can reliance on the other anti-town party's NK backfire sometimes. Lovely.
So he crumbed the same way but with some results, not just for the sake of it.
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ZFR: But for that to happen we'd need the cop to be a moronic moron.
How so? If we have one and they investigated me and found me to be town, they could keep their mouths shut, keeping them safe. If i'm scum, they'd out me and likely the game would be handed to town. Or is there something wrong with my reasoning that i'm missing?

(Note I already know they'd have to waste a "shot" on me to do so)

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ZFR: Read what nmillar wrote. Pooka's hypothetical discussions are something, but real role discussions are just bad.
I wasn't asking anyone to state their roles or poking for roles, though.

I just have a non-standard method of play. Love it or not, it's just how it is.

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ZFR: I really don't like this question of dedo. Has a subtle "hey, I don't know how many people the Mafia team has because I'm not Mafia" LAMIST feel to it.
And your "this and that is/would be bad town play" posts don't? ;)
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GymHenson: I just have a non-standard method of play. Love it or not, it's just how it is.
Non-standard is not the word that comes to mind as first.
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ZFR: But for that to happen we'd need the cop to be a moronic moron.
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GymHenson: How so? If we have one and they investigated me and found me to be town (...)
If they have investigated you in the first place, they're a moronic moron. QED.
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ZFR: Yes. Which part confuses you? "Day"? "Chat"?
Without counting Russian Roulette the last game was the only one for a long time (to my recollection) where the scum had a day-chat. I always thought that was sort of an "exotic" feature so any time some brings it up it tingles me.


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ZFR: Yes we are. 3 vs 7 means that a Day 1 mislynch puts us at MYLO on D2. Not something a host would do.
2 vs 1 vs 7 is possible (with 1 being either a neutral or scum), but regardless, any scum "team" is made up of 2 people.
Fair point but it's a role madness so it's perfectly possible this is balanced out somehow so I wouldn't just throw away the possibility of 3 scum based on just player numbers.
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ZFR: Regardless, best way to deal with it is let it resolve at Night. Let the "super important" PR be scum's problem. And it will be super-hilarious if they decide not to kill him and the breadloafcrumbs-GR exposes a Mafia member again.
You seem to be certain he is town if you think it's something to be resolved by mafia team.
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Vitek: So he crumbed the same way but with some results, not just for the sake of it.
Yes, I had a "good" PR that time and wanted to play it right and put in some more effort than usual. It paid off somewhat.

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ZFR: If they have investigated you in the first place, they're a moronic moron. QED.
And what if I was scum and that would help town win? Or do you not care about winning?

Or.....

You seem to be hinting that it'd be a waste to investigate me(by any potential investigative role), as if you already know I am town.

Scum!ZFR trying to dissuade any potential investigative PRs from clearing me(so I remain a distraction to some) perhaps?
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ZFR: Yes. Which part confuses you? "Day"? "Chat"?
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dedoporno: Without counting Russian Roulette the last game was the only one for a long time (to my recollection) where the scum had a day-chat. I always thought that was sort of an "exotic" feature so any time some brings it up it tingles me.
It was in fact in 64, 65, 67. And this is 68.

Anyway, I was making a hypothetical scenrio where GR was being coached. The only possibility of this happening is day-chat or N0 chat. The latter of which is far less common.

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ZFR: Regardless, best way to deal with it is let it resolve at Night. Let the "super important" PR be scum's problem. And it will be super-hilarious if they decide not to kill him and the breadloafcrumbs-GR exposes a Mafia member again.
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Vitek: You seem to be certain he is town if you think it's something to be resolved by mafia team.
No "certain", but yes I think him likely Town. However, I didn't mean resolved by Mafia, but that it will self-resolve. It's same as the Carradice-claim last game, if he's alive, he'll be under more scrutiny, but Mafia are taking a risk letting him live.