Surprising. It feels as if HSL had posted much more than Hunter ... but maybe that's posting length. :-)

= 4*Sum{k=0 to inf}(((-1)^k)/(2k+1))

I'll wait for a reply from Hunter before posting more about him.

Let's not get into the length versus girth argument please.

Why not? I'm a champion of girth! ... At my weight I would have to be 2,53 m tall to have an acceptable BMI, but I eat and eat and don't grow any taller.

@dedo Even more than the AtE argument it felt like he was trying to muddy the waters since the deadline was close then by casting shade on multiple folks with flimsy arguments. Hence I felt the vote was deserved and I wanted to see how he’d react to identify his alignment.
Currently on a vacation in Dubai, should be able to post though. Accommodation has got nice enough wifi.
@all Let me know if I’ve missed any questions, kinda sleep deprived now so I’ll take a short nap and answer them after that.

apathy seems to have already set in for the game, we seem to be almost in the same state as we were about 4 days ago. *sigh*

Did you consider him being absent, maybe until near end of day, when you pushed for that reaction?

Well, nothing has changed since the vote count that JMich posted, but here you go.

Official Vote Count

Lifthrasil - 2 Votes (Bookwyrm627 109; trentonlf 175/199; dedoporno 235)

Hunter65536 - 1 Votes (Bookwyrm627 49/109; mchack 268)

HypersomniacLive - 2 Votes (flubbucket 232; Hunter65536 275)

Bookwyrm627 - 0 Votes (Lifthrasil 13/25; flubbucket 71/105; trentonlf 81/154; Lifthrasil 110/174)

trentonlf - 0 Votes

flubbucket - 1 Votes (HypersomniacLive 16/65; Lifthrasil 277)

Sage103082|mchack - 0 Votes (flubbucket 19/44; Bookwyrm627 26/49; Lifthrasil 56/110; flubbucket 105/186; trentonlf 173/175)|

dedoporno - 1 Votes (Hunter65536 7/118; trentonlf 199)

No Lynch - 0 Votes

Inanimate Objects and/or Moderators - 0 Votes (trentonlf 8/81; Sage103082 12/106)

Not Currently Voting: HypersomniacLive

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With 5 votes required to lynch, Lifthrasil and HypersomniacLive are closest at L-3.

Deadline for D1 is sometime after Friday evening.
(Ask Venus, or maybe Saturn?)

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Format:
<player voted> - <# of current votes> Votes (<player voting> <post voted>/<post unvoted, if applicable>)

Underlined votes are currently active.

All values will revert to 0 and/or blank at the start of a new Day.

The Greater Good

Addressing things as I read and catch up from where I left off.


Let me quickly check - does town recruiting cult work?



Attaboy!


Game #46 and, a few others too probably, beg to differ. An AtE is a form of reaction; tone, wording, timing and motivation behind it are the things I look at when scum-hunting, and it has served well so far. Of course if you're the CL, then you have every reason to dismiss it as an additional, useful sign to look out for, and prompt others to follow your lead.


As opposed to you spreading warm, bright sunshine, eh?

The misrepresentation is taking that exchange out of context to invalidate my specific observation/comment in order to accuse me of misrepresentation and throwing shade; you yourself made the same observation/comment initially. Then again, if you're the CL, you have to weigh the pros and cons, and your options as to whom to push for a mislynch and whom to leave for recruitment.


[emphasis added]

Do tell, is it the alleged shade, or the alleged anticipation?

You seem to have missed that, for reasons unrelated to the game, it was I who asked for an extension. So, if I hoped/expected the extension had good chances to be granted, why would I be getting antsy? If, OTOH, the deadline had remained as initially planned, why would I have waited so long to make my cases, then ask for others' thoughts, and right before I wouldn't have had any time to be around? To achieve No-Lynch? To rush the lynch? Either of the two is anything but inline with my usual play-style/meta, and would only get me in trouble; you think I'd be that careless were I the CL?


Which multiple folks would that be? Lifthrasil's been in the spotlight for most of the Day, dedoporno already had, as mchack put it, trentonlf on his back. I didn't see you saying that any of the arguments made against them were flimsy ones and nothing more than casting shade. That leaves you, so putting you on my suspects list equals to muddying the waters (again, muddy the waters to what end?) and throwing shade.

Ah yes, reactions are indeed interesting. And I didn't even vote you.

You call my arguments flimsy, and that's it - no elaboration on why, no specifics, nothing; seems like a cop out to dismiss someone else's case, make accusations and vote them. On top of that, you base yours on feeling - you've yet to make one that's not prefaced with a variation of "I/it feel(s)/felt"; another cop out. Quite interesting for someone completely discarding AtE, you know a form of reaction that puts feelings top, front and centre.


On a side note:

*looks at the "6 hours ago" timestamp of Hunter65536's post #304, then reads the "I’ll take a short nap and answer them after that" bit*

If 6hrs is a short nap, I can't imagine how many hours your regular night sleep consists of...

The Greater Good

[emphasis added]

You comment on trentonlf's "suspecting him = throwing shade", yet nothing on this in your take on Hunter65536. Do you see differences, and if so, what are those? If not, any particular reason you didn't make the same point about him?


Ooooo Kay.



What are yours?


And what exactly are you doing about it besides sighing?



Nobody? It was just a (poorly prefaced?) addendum within the context and flow of that particular exchange with dedoporno in relation to my view of mchack, i.e. I don't want a piece of him Today which doesn't mean that he gets an unconditional free pass from me. I probably could have worded it differently. /shrug


Could you elaborate?


How's that rereading going?


Or did I misunderstand you'd do it?



What second thoughts and why are you having about Lifthrasil? And could you elaborate on why you're considering the other two?

That he may not be the best candidate for the CL, of course. After his more vocal responses to you he seems to have softened a bit and made some comments in defense of others (the one that made the strongest impression was the first part of his read on Hunter) that felt quite townie. He didn't burn the bridge stating that Hunter may be giving a great performance, but still, the tone didn't feel anti-town. I've come to expect of Lift to be among the more outspoken players and I'm not sure if he would tone down and not try to pass the heat to someone else like that. I wasn't convinced of anything before but he was my strongest suspect yet now I feel some hesitation.

As for why the others - we have to lynch someone and I have a list of people I don't like getting lynched at the moment which leaves the ones I'm more open to. Hunter wasn't making an especially stronger impression initially but your interactions feel odd. From the two of you I think his is the one that I'm not as used to and doesn't feel as familiar.

Hm. That's not very much. Sure RL and vacation and stuff ... but I don't like the 'throwing shade' argument. Pointing out reasons for suspicion, even if they are not solid but based partially on feeling, is what town does. And crying 'hey, that's just throwing shade' is what scum does, when they have no other arguments. Unless it's really a significant amount of baseless accusations. That's not the case with HSL.

Also 'throwing shade on multiple folks' is kind of vague. Too vague. Also, if HSL was the CL, would he really alienate a significant portion of the players by 'throwing shade on multiple folks'?

Maybe dedo is on to something (post 295). Maybe you were keeping it low, participating a bit and avoiding conflict ... until HSL got too close to you. And then you decided to try to discredit him by accusing him of throwing shade - and trying to distract from the fact that his suspicion of you was what made you 'suspect' him by including 'multiple others' in your shade argument. I think this all sounds quite reasonable and it's the best reason for suspicion we have so far.

Therefore

unvote flubbucket
vote Hunter65536

@hsl Wow, that nitpicky about coming back after nap. It’s not like I left for a day or even half a day did I? Your desperation is quite clear. About the antsy thing, you just wanted people split across those choices and since it has been my observation that people lynch someone rather than let it go to no lynch i was saying that was your goal there. (Muddy the waters was the expression I used before for this)

The Greater Good

Not sure I follow what exactly your reasoning is the way you've phrased this.

And what about mchack?



Close - AI: Alignment Indicative.


Do you think that the CL's plan consists of a single target for the D1 lynch, and a single target for the N1 recruitment?


Answer (top part).


Can you point me to whom, where and for what he called out people?


No-one can make flubbucket work.


Do you think he really meant it?


Is the "more comfortable position" for the CL to be in play(style)-wise independent of which player the CL is?


There are more than 256 shades of grey between being indifferent and asking a lot of questions. But nice try with that last bit.


Yeah, sorry about that. Most players either followed or played in the game(s) I mentioned. In game #49 everyone but trentonlf was a lonesome SK (he was the only townie), with some interesting mechanics and restrictions. It was an interesting setup worth reading, if/when you have some time.

To get a taste regarding the tone I mentioned, you could ISO the players of interest in that game.


Shh, not so loud, others might get wind of it.


Looks like you didn't read the post about multiple links in a line carefully enough, because that's not the tip I gave you.
You can post multiple links, as evidenced in my reply to you about it. You just have to apply the "add a space before the link text" trick.

Better start thinking in other direction as well, as my flip would reveal if this lynch goes through.