Turbo-Beaver: So there's some account with a Polish-sounding nickname cheering on as calls intensify for the boycott of the "Polish Stupid Ass" (what CD Projekt is commonly referred to as in China). You couldn't make that up.
GamezRanker: Chinese being racist to GOG because they're Polish?.....figures.
(that seems to be a big problem over there in general...somewhat shown in things like how foreign games and other media must be changed to be sold in some such countries)
For the record, it's "ass" in the sense of 'donkey,' and it seems the game developer DICE (since acquired by EA) was being called "Swedish Stupid Ass" earlier, in relation to the number of bugs in their game Battlefield 4 back in 2013.
As for the account, it could be anybody behind it, so I'm not really sure what to make of it. They obviously must have some connection to Poland though, otherwise where would the nickname come from. I just thought it's mildly amusing because if the boycott really took on, it's not inconceivable that anybody with a username pointing to that country would be suspect. So I probably wouldn't be cheering on that particular boycott if I were that person.
Turbo-Beaver: I can't really browse Weibo (seems to interfere with my browser settings) but from the screenshots we can see the 3 social-media accounts in China that are now in charge of curating the GOG platform: At least the first two of these also seem to be mutual followers.
GamezRanker: So it's a small "clique" of users causing all the uproar which led(more or less) to the GOG decision? Just like with other kneejerk responses by gaming companies and other companies(after such uproar on other social media).
There must have been more, I just only have this one screenshot. The question is of course how many of them were even gamers, how many would have purchased Cyberpunk 2077, as opposed to pirating it, and how many would have changed their decision to purchase the game had Devotion been released. In short, was the threat credible, or did the "Polish Stupid Ass" just get cold feet? Either way, it just wasn't a very smart move to promote Devotion's release in China like this.
Turbo-Beaver: Separately, given the facts we know now, what is your interpretation of them, and how is it different than what I presented?
kaboro: The difference is that i do not jump into interpretation of facts when there are not enough facts to base any interpretation on.
Oh, but you do. In fact you just did. Earlier today you diagnosed me as "severely lacking in the brain department." But you don't know me, we've never met. This was the first and only thing you wrote in your response to my post: an interpretation you jumped to. You didn't really have enough facts to arrive at that interpretation, yet you did anyway.
Don't worry, we're all like that. In any real-life scenario we always have to deal with incomplete information. That's why we have deduction, induction, and other less rigorous problem-solving techniques, such as heuristics. Otherwise you could never leave home because you couldn't decide whether to take an umbrella with you as you didn't have enough facts to ascertain whether it's going to rain.
It's true if you completely don't care about an issue (like you claim is the case with you here) you could just sit it out and wait but that's a luxury we're rarely afforded in practice. And one could always claim to be waiting for more facts: after all, part of what we don't know is often not knowing
how much we still don't know. This way anything could drag on forever, as long as we allowed it.
However, in this situation, while it would have been good to have even more information, I believe we have just enough of it to say what happened with near certainty. Further, my argument as to how this matter should be resolved is not derived from any facts pertaining to these particular events but based on general principles. So, while I might be willing to consider any more specific criticism, with regard to such elusive remarks I accept that at this point we might have to agree to disagree.
kaboro: You assumed i attacked your interpretation because i had a better one, but it is not so.
I didn't really feel the facts I presented were under attack. What I did think though was that you should have had a better version of events ready to present before criticizing mine, so I must say I am a bit disappointed.
kaboro: The only problem is that i dont see the opposite side manifesting here on the forums
Could it perhaps be a manifestation that nobody on the "opposite side," as you put it, feels that strongly about this issue after all?
kaboro: i only see you guys.
For the record (as I said before), I only represent myself and do not co-ordinate my responses with anyone, so I'm not sure why you keep referring to me in the plural. I'm not aware of anybody else here presenting an argument that would be similar enough to mine to justify being lumped up together with them.
kaboro: The one Chinese person who posted here was very rational and his complaints were valid, the way he was treated is a shame for the western community.
First of all, there are individual people posting here, everybody is responsible for themselves, so again I'm not sure how does "the Western community" come into it at all.
As a matter of fact, there were at least 4 different Chinese people posting here about this issue that I interacted with, and I believe I treated each of them well. While they faced criticism from many concurrent posters, I don't think it was anything out of the ordinary. That they eventually chose not to engage in further conversation is regrettable but perhaps, again, just a sign that they didn't feel that strongly about defending the issue in the first place. Alternatively, they could have found the counter-arguments they were presented with too difficult to refute: we don't really know unless we asked them, which we cannot do anymore. Speaking for myself, I believe I've demonstrated my willingness to discuss this matter with anyone, without any preconceptions, and in a polite manner, and thus have nothing to be ashamed about with regard to this situation.