Posted January 19, 2016
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Posted January 19, 2016
"The general tactic of any game publisher is that they offer you a contract full of stuff you have to argue with them for a long time to take out -- IF you even have the bargaining power to push them, which most indies don't. At this point my tactic is to go meta and say look, fuck you, this process is insulting and wastes my time, you know which terms I am going to argue about, so just change those before you send me anything."
Okay, I don't get it. If all publishers do it, why does he suddenly get his panties in a bunch over GOG doing the exact same thing as everybody else?
And if it's so insulting and time wasting, why doesn't he cut to the chase and open negotiations with HIS terms and take it from there? I mean from how he goes on about it he is apparently big enough to do that, isn't he?
Apart from that I only have to say, complaining about publishers' egos? I think there is plenty of ego going around on BOTH sides.
Okay, I don't get it. If all publishers do it, why does he suddenly get his panties in a bunch over GOG doing the exact same thing as everybody else?
And if it's so insulting and time wasting, why doesn't he cut to the chase and open negotiations with HIS terms and take it from there? I mean from how he goes on about it he is apparently big enough to do that, isn't he?
Apart from that I only have to say, complaining about publishers' egos? I think there is plenty of ego going around on BOTH sides.
Post edited January 19, 2016 by Randalator
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Posted January 19, 2016
Jonathan Blow on the 13th of December 2012:
"Braid is not signed with GoG because they were dicks during contract negotiation."
"Braid is not signed with GoG because they were dicks during contract negotiation."
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Posted January 19, 2016
Have you checked these ?
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Posted January 19, 2016
I'm just the messenger. He tweeted it. The point is, what did GOG do to elicit that response?
Post edited January 19, 2016 by Barry_Woodward
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Posted January 19, 2016
Or perhaps he felt so special that he wanted a contract that was unaccaptable for GOG. It's all speculation and a little pointless, because we'll never know.
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Posted January 19, 2016
Can we please forget Mr.Blow ? I think there are much more talented indie developers besides him .
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Posted January 19, 2016
So number 2 then, he entered negotiations again with people that were dicks to him before, right? And he is talking about the current contract being like XBLA of 2010, not the one from 2012 that was given for Braid.
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Posted January 19, 2016
I guess I missed this thread originally? Interesting read for sure.
Trilarion: Instead of releasing games, they offer to order a game conditional of a certain minimum number of orders and only then they are releasing the game. So what I mean is that one week before release any publisher can tell GOG the game and the price and if GOG is not sure if it will be profitable they take pre-orders and only if a certain number is exceeded (say 100 orders) they actually process them and release the game here on GOG. This way could predict the success of a game much better than their personal selection.
I like the idea, but I'm sure there are problems and most likely that discussion has taken place in this thread already. So a "bender_camera_neat.png" from me. ;-)mqstout
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Posted January 19, 2016
GOG is, one might say, "excessively curated". At the very least, they need clear transparency in their rejections. It's not like we don't get shit games (Surgeon Simulator?...) and super-niche (Hatoful Boyfriend?...) [or super-niche shit, if you're talking Redshirt] despite the curation.
Post edited January 19, 2016 by mqstout