I guess I'm a sucker then as I always read the OP and rules. That's why I don't understand how the votes don't need to be bolded and an unvote is not necessary because rule 3 says it is.

No I don't think you are reading too much into things you've questioned or challenged Lift about. As to your questioning of him, he seems to ignore or answer your questions with a question for the most part.

ZFR has gone from scum trying to hard to appear town to I'm not sure about. He seems way too focused on the blotunga "slip" and I can't decide if it's from him trying to perpetuate the distraction it is or him trying to really figure it out.

I've tried to get people to give opinions on various people so we can stimulate some discussion, but that has been a fail for the most part. So I guess the answer is no I'm not really doing anything to move the game forward and I'm not sure what I can do to move it forward other than vote.

That being said

Vote Lift

So with learning that doing regular seems to be useless mostly. What I would be interessted is what is so shocking. I do not know if I miss something now because of language or because of inexperience.

*Sigh* My "shock" would be mock shock. Not real.

Here is how I envisioned it.

ZFR: random.org selects scene. Vote scene.
mod: That vote doesn't count! It's not bolded!
ZFR: Damn. But wait a second. The state of this game without the random vote is soooo much better for town than the previous ones where I voted randomly. OMG! I will never use random.org again. This was... er... actually an experiment I wanted to make.
Everyone: lol. hahaha. This is truly the funniest thing we heard.
ZFR: Hooray! Hooray.

It all went to heck when it turned out than unbolded votes do actually count. Then SPF started fake-voting too so... meh.

@Koro, just ignore the whole random thing befor it confuses you further. It was a joke that didn't work out.

You seemed to read the OP and the flavor properly, why would you be skimming posts which contain actual game related information? What type or who's posts are you not paying full attention to and why?

[emphasis added by me]

I'm not sure I understand that last bit. Can you elaborate a bit?

Can we perhaps say whom are we willinv to vote, with the deadline looming.

I'd really love to go with blotunga or scene.

Willing to go Lift (for his later behaviour) or Pooka for his early day behaviour.

SPF or Micro, in that order, in order to avoid a no lynch.

Not willing HSL, Koro, trent and dedo.

^Good point on scene not being on Fran's dragon. And today scene did mention those on Fran's wagon, in 3rd and 4th position, as scum. It might be thay he skipped Fran because he wanted to distance himself.

I meant wagon, not dragon.

Really. THAT is your reason? That's the pot calling the kettle black. You have less posts than Pooka and less content in those posts. Most of your posts on Day 2 were only defenses concerning your sapphire/zephyr mixup and not much else. Yes, Pooka isn't that active. But neither am I (RL intervening) and you are even less active. So if that's your scum metric, you should vote yourself!

I'm not saying with this that voting Pooka is necessarily bad. But the reason you give is quite weak and that makes it really look like a minimum effort vote. ... In other words, your vote looks scummy.

My guests are fast asleep, so sneaking in here to catch up.


*cough... cough*


Thanks, appreciated.


Be back shortly... -ish.

[emphasis added]

Any particular reason for the conditional, given that the OP flavour clearly mentions "three villains", something already pointed out by PookaMustard?


Woo-hoo, a T-Rex with a dragon! What an adventure!


Back to reality, I guess.



*raises eyebrow*

D2 has something like 200 posts, and nothing in any of them stands out to you? Unless you've joined SirPrimalform in not keeping up with the thread; I sympathise with the sick household and all, but I have to ask - have you? At the very least, elaborate - what bothers you about their silence?



With the context being blotunga's mafia and ZFR non-mafia, why would he feel guilty about targetting ZFR?


[emphasis added]

The last (and only, if memory serves right) time someone accused me of trying to get on their good side, my accuser turned out to be a sly, conniving double-crosser in pretty sheep's clothes (game #55).


Do I read this correctly that you don't see these other reasons as an act?


Sounds more like you think they're town but dead weight than there may be something scummy here. If so, shouldn't they be a "to avoid No-Lynch" choice instead of "I'd be fine with him as well"? If the latter, what about them pings you as scummy?

Also, is Microfishd on the table, or just a note for now?



I was referring to the content of your posts, not to making a statement about your alignment; obviously, everybody claims to be a Hero.

dedoporno already asked about the other two things that caught my eye.



Should I then assume that you were answering blotunga's question in general, and not specifically within the context of our current setup?


Posting this to cut the wall of text down a bit, and finishing up another post, so a bump would be appreciated if anyone's around, just in case.

You can have whatever suspects and related priorities you want. That's not the point. It's the way you've been going about things all Day long (trentonlf, PookaMustard, Korotan, supplementscene, and now SirPrimalform), and how you word/frame things (trentonlf/supplementscene, PookaMustard, Korotan, and now SirPrimalform further down); as I've said, your scum-hunting looks and feels superficial, like you're mimicking your established town-play to appear to be game-solving.

You never directly address the things I question/challenge you about, often going for the "oops" excuse which you then use to appear hard at game-solving and scum-hunting (like with PookaMustard and supplementscene), and straight out ignore my follow up when I lay out how you dance around and dodge my questions.

Take this for example:

It'd seem that you look at Korotan's (re)actions in a vacuum, and that's the good version of it. In context, it comes across as trying to find things to pick on the easiest target, the weakest player (no offence, Korotan) who can't defend themself well. And when attention is drawn to it, you find a reason to back-pedal.

A broader look at your votes, and assuming they are honestly your suspects, I definitely don't like how you frame things. Look at how you prefaced your current vote on SirPrimalform for example [emphasis added]:

What's that supposed to mean? It reads to me like you're trying to create a dichotomy - "it's either SirPrimalform or supplementscene" - and at the same time, shift responsibility about the outcome on the rest of us.


Almost sounds like it bothers you that I'm not more open so you can't adjust your play to get off my radar.
You're a smart person, Lifthrasil, does it really come as a surprise that you're my main suspect at the moment after the way I've questioned you since the start of D2?

People say you've upped your game, and while that may be true, I look at your play, and a few too many things don't add up with you this game. I've wondered if I'm reading too much into them, hence I've asked others about it, but I haven't got much feedback (only trentonlf and somewhat ZFR chimed in).

Vote Lifthrasil


@all, asking again - am I reading too much into all of this?

I prefer Lifthrasil, but willing to go with supplementscene (indeed, dedoporno makes a good point, I think Lifthrasil made a similar one earlier) and SirPrimalform (even though Lifthrasl's voting him), not sure about anyone else even to avoid No-Lynch.

Also, meant to ask @ZFR - is Microfishd on the table for the same reasons as Yesterday, or has anything changed Today?

The OP flavour slipped my mind. Though to be honest I would keep my mind open to all possibilities just the same

@HSL. Micro:
To be honest, after his posts today, he pings me slightly less of a fake newbie. But still not sure about him enough to keep him on my better-than-no'lynch list.

Yes I was answering blotunga's question in general and not specifically within the context of our current setup.