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Vrote ZFR for conducting unethical experiments.
I agree. What done has to be done and a sure way for killing the traitor is just killing everyone else. So we may start random. AWESOME! THIS IS LIKE AN ANIME I WATCHED.
VOTE The Supplement
Should we vote the charactername or the player name?
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Korotan: Should we vote the charactername or the player name?
Yes.


;-)

(I guess both will work.)
Fine. Let's see what this will bring for us.

Vote The Supplement, A.K.A. supplementscene
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PookaMustard: Fine. Let's see what this will bring for us.

Vote The Supplement, A.K.A. supplementscene
Vote Mustard

Sorry but creating a wagon out of nothing like this doesn't look good.

This is a serious vote.

And it concludes my experiment. OMG, you were all so right! random.org voting at the rvs is so bad. Worst play for town ever. I'll never do it again!!
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ZFR: Sorry but creating a wagon out of nothing like this doesn't look good.
Given the fact that people were talking about the "No Day 1 Lynch" thing in the sign up thread as some sort of horrible idea, I thought I might as well get on an existing bandwagon. My hope is to learn Scene. Ultimately getting him lynched is not my priority unless he is scum.
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ZFR: Sorry but creating a wagon out of nothing like this doesn't look good.
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PookaMustard: Given the fact that people were talking about the "No Day 1 Lynch" thing in the sign up thread as some sort of horrible idea, I thought I might as well get on an existing bandwagon. My hope is to learn Scene. Ultimately getting him lynched is not my priority unless he is scum.
Why not vote it straightaway then?
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PookaMustard: Given the fact that people were talking about the "No Day 1 Lynch" thing in the sign up thread as some sort of horrible idea, I thought I might as well get on an existing bandwagon. My hope is to learn Scene. Ultimately getting him lynched is not my priority unless he is scum.
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ZFR: Why not vote it straightaway then?
Because I think it's better if I followed with what others were doing, slowly learning from everyone. Remember that this is my first Mafia game. Already feels too alien to me when compared to Secret Hitler.

If you have a better idea for what I should be doing, I am all ears.
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Lifthrasil: @mod: do we have to unvote before re-voting someone else? Or does a new vote automatically replace previous votes?
Nope, but unvoting might make it clearer for everybody.

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ZFR: Also, do we need to bold votes.
Nope, but bolding your votes might make it clearer for everybody.

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PookaMustard: Also, is Zephyr scum?
Well let me just check my notes here- HAY WAITAMINNIT

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Korotan: Should we vote the charactername or the player name?
Either will do ;)
Vote Captain Sapphire, just because he conveniently took a job elsewhere after committing treason to the team. He is trying to shift blame to others.

If that does not count, vote ZFR. He's confusing me. Confusion must be stopped at all costs.

@moderator: will you be tellin us when to switch from talking to action? does "talking" equate to what some articles mean by "day" and action equate to "night"?
Post edited March 26, 2019 by Microfishd
Oh wow, not only one but two players who jump on the only player with a vote already on him? Taking the target of opportunity, huh, Korotan and Pooka?

@Korotan: so your plan is to eliminate everyone but you? Since you're new and in case you're town: that won't work. Scum would undermine that idea, so that 'targets of opportunity' where they go along are mostly town. And as soon as they have the same number as the remaining town, they win.

@Pooka: third vote on a player who hasn't even posted yet. That is really not random any more. That is opportunistic and looks quite scummy. I'm not sure whether I believe that that was a newbie error or whether you have a scummy agenda here.

unvote Scene
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Microfishd: @moderator: will you be tellin us when to switch from talking to action?
Yes, there'll be a notification in the game, something like "Don't post here until the next voting phase! It's the action phase now!" or something like that.

Yes, voting phase=Day, action phase=Night.

The game moves from Day to Night when a player gains the majority of votes (currently 7), or when the deadline is reached.

Which reminds me!


Deadline in FIVE days (ish) (Sunday(ish))


Last thing - don't double post. and don't edit your posts for any reason. If a post is stamped 'edited' then the game is compromised - if this happens a lot I'm going to have to have Beatrice flush you all out of the airlocks.
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Lifthrasil: @Pooka: third vote on a player who hasn't even posted yet. That is really not random any more. That is opportunistic and looks quite scummy. I'm not sure whether I believe that that was a newbie error or whether you have a scummy agenda here.

unvote Scene
Guess I'm gonna scumread myself. If I were scum, what am I going to gain by immediately jumping on the scene wagon? That would be, as you say yourself, opportunistic. Would be way too revealing for scum.

And you know, it looks like it won't work out for anyone's favor, now that I think about it. Scum can easily come to sow trouble while we're figuring out the Day 1 lynch. Not to mention that if we followed on the Day 1 lynch, we have a high probability of killing a Townie, and the Action phase would inevitably kill one anyway. So, no need to work on a lynch now.

Vote unmasking.

If your (and ZFR) have better ideas on how to go about with this, let me know.
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PookaMustard: Guess I'm gonna scumread myself. If I were scum, what am I going to gain by immediately jumping on the scene wagon? That would be, as you say yourself, opportunistic. Would be way too revealing for scum.
Unless, of course, you were planning to play the newbie card.

The idea of Day 1 is to do something, anything, and judge how others react. How people react to being questions, how they react to votes. When Korotan jumped on the only player who already had a vote on him, I thought 'strange. But let's wait and see whether more jump on this' - and voila, you did. Things like this are what allows the game to move out of the random vote stage and into meaningful discussions.

Yes, we do have a high risk of lynching a townie on Day 1. But the interaction leading to that is important and may later lead to tells on the actual scum. Who was too opportunistic? Or conversely, who didn't want to interact at all? Who was hiding? Of course, we still try to get scum on Day 1, even if that is very difficult. But a good guideline is either lynch someone who behaved in a scummy way, i.e. too opportunistic, or lynch a lurker.

A lurker, by the way, is someone who doesn't contribute to discussions. Someone who only shows up just enough to avoid being reprimanded by the mod, but otherwise doesn't write anything that can be analyzed later. Of course those lurkers sometimes are just lazy town too or players who have RL stuff going on. But it is also an easy way for scum to hide. So my tenet is: lynch the scummiest player, if there is one, and if that fails, lynch a lurker.
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PookaMustard: Guess I'm gonna scumread myself. If I were scum, what am I going to gain by immediately jumping on the scene wagon? That would be, as you say yourself, opportunistic. Would be way too revealing for scum.
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Lifthrasil: Unless, of course, you were planning to play the newbie card.
It's not a card I'm playing, that's how things just are for me. Even if it was a scum card, it's a shaky one at best. Didn't really do me wonders in my first SH game, so what are the chances that it would work differently now? All it really says is "careful, I may do stupid stuff." This hurts my side either way, town or scum, not help.
The idea of Day 1 is to do something, anything, and judge how others react. How people react to being questions, how they react to votes. When Korotan jumped on the only player who already had a vote on him, I thought 'strange. But let's wait and see whether more jump on this' - and voila, you did. Things like this are what allows the game to move out of the random vote stage and into meaningful discussions.
And you think that reaction to scene is indicative of something. I thought it a good idea to go along with others and see how this ship sails. Spoiler alert: it was a bad idea. From how I reacted to ZFR's voting of me, just having one vote on someone was a better idea than wagoning.

If I were fascist, I'd be discreet about it in Secret Hitler. My vote was reckless. I wouldn't do that as scum. I'd wait until a majority vote on someone, scumbuddies included.
Yes, we do have a high risk of lynching a townie on Day 1. But the interaction leading to that is important and may later lead to tells on the actual scum. Who was too opportunistic? Or conversely, who didn't want to interact at all? Who was hiding? Of course, we still try to get scum on Day 1, even if that is very difficult. But a good guideline is either lynch someone who behaved in a scummy way, i.e. too opportunistic, or lynch a lurker.
In my opinion, we should be careful about lynching lurkers. In the previous game, all the fascists were interacting constantly. Sure, I wasn't as much and so was trent, but as scum, we ultimately played the lurkiness of flub and rtcvb to our favor.

And yes, the interaction is indeed why I voted scene after you first did. I thought having the magnitude of a quarter of players voting on someone would give us something to go off from. But I'm the living example that only one was needed. I think that even if there's less votes on him now, we would still have the effect of seeing his reaction.