I'll be voting to leave and I think we have a good chance of getting what we want, but it could still go either way

First death treat- post 11. Yeah, that went about as well as I thought.

See my above post. Britain hasn't oppressed Scotland in centuries. Scotland was never conquered, their King actually inherited England's throne. That was just the Independence campaigns attempt to sway people's hearts with rhetoric.

But on the second part I agree completely. Even living here (and all but married to one, though she's technically a Scot) I'm not that found of the British (well, English really). If I travel anywhere in Europe I always make sure to let people know I'm Irish, you get a much better welcome then if you let people think you might be English...
I'm fairly sure that's exactly what most people think of the British...

^This. So much this.
Everyone here still believes Britain is some kind of indomitable Empire, foremost country in the world, but that hasn't been true for decades. They complain about immigrants when the nations favourite foods are Fish and Chips (Italian) and Curry (Indian), and there is no such thing as an 'English' person; they're all descendant from immigrants somewhere down the line. This country has always been a melting pot of immigrants and invaders.

And I completely agree about looking at who wants us out, people like Farage and Boris Johnson, or Trump (I'm fairly sure he supported the leave campaign anyway). I certainly wouldn't ever want to be on the same side as any of them...

Member states leaving, or even seriously threatening to leave, may help with this "rethink the structure". So far, nothing else did get through the thick skins of the bureaucrats. Maybe even tear it down and build something better instead (I know, not gonna happen, but I can dream).

Not sure if it's related or not (don't know enough about the lady in question) but a Labour MP has been shot dead by a nut job shouting right wing slogans...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304

It says both sides have stopped campaigning because of it, so I assume it is at least some what related to the EU question....

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I'm sure you know, but this is not how it works.

If Britain chooses to stay in Europe, that doesn't mean that the British "chickened out," it could very well mean that 50.00...1% of eligible voters decided to stay. The people wanting to leave have no say in the matter; if they're less, they'll lose. The same can be said for the people wanting to stay. "Losing" an election doesn't mean that you changed your mind at the last moment, just that you were fewer. That's unfortunately one of the principles of democracy.

Or maybe you just used it as an expression and not in the literal sense, I don't know.

Breaking News:

Jo Cox just died. It then draws some parallels to the death of Anna Lindh in 2003, 4 days before Sweden had a referendum on joining EU (the results was "No" at 56,1%):

Link in French:
http://www.robert-schuman.eu/fr/oee/0215-les-suedois-disent-un-non-clair-a-l-entree-de-leur-pays-dans-l-union-economique-et-monetaire

That bitch is crazy. Every time someone makes a threatening posts she goes ballistic screaming that GOG needs to get rid of them, but consistently posts crap like that herself. I guess it doesn't count when she does it. XD

Well, I'll take your word that Scotland wasn't oppressed since the 1600s -still though one could argue that the previous centuries of oppression remained to the collective minds of the Scottish, hence why this independence campaign came up in the 1st place (after all, if a subset of one nation has absolutely no problem with the rest, why would they want to separate themselves? this would make them look totally stupid...)

And yes, Irish have a more positive connotation to my mind as well:
My mind's connotations:
-British: Posh, haughty(by this I mean that my mind sees them as them thinking they're best than everybody else-not to mention the colonial mentality they had in the 19th century, when they thought they absolutely had to make their victims like themselves and if said victims resisted they were "ungrateful"), awful weather etc (I do succumb to stereotypes fairly easily in regards to countries I haven't visited and don't plan to, because I dislike cold places...)
-Irish: A bunch of presumably more jovial than the British people who like beer and stuff and have this interesting sounding Celtic-like language (which the British almost exterminated) and also Enya (one of my favourite artists) comes from there too! What to not like...

Regarding recipes, I do not really know the origin of the fish and chips recipe, but one could additionally remark that potatoes also come from an entirely different continent (the american one)... As for who initially inhabited England, I'd wager Celts who were exterminated by Saxons (coming obviously from Germany) and Vikings in the early middle ages...

The way I meant said expression (which apparently was a bit over the top) is that at least some people who now loudly proclaim they want to leave Europe, on the actual voting day will hesitate to put their money where their mouth is, and will either not go to vote or vote for staying instead(which would still mean that more people would vote stay instead of go). Certainly, there will be people who will vote as they say, but until the actual day, the opinion can still be swayed, since the percentages are pretty close afaik...

That coincidence almost makes you believe in conspiracy theories.

Regarding EU voting it doesn't matter what you vote. EU will keep having votes until you vote as EU wants or just sneak it through anyway.

That's exactly it. Oppression that happened centuries ago is still sung about and glorified and that's what people were going off. These days the worst oppression is not being able to set our own taxes or choose our own spending 100%...

Sounds about right, though the posh / haughty bit is only a part of the population, the other obnoxious part are the drunken louts who are seen all over European holiday destinations getting drunk and doing stupid shit (or currently being involved in football riots in France I believe). And the rest of the population are just normal decent people, who unfortunately get over shadowed by the aforementioned sections of the population so that's all that people see when they think of England / the English.

It was the Italian immigrants who came after the first and second world wars that brought fish and chips over, but it could have come from many European countries really, it just certainly isn't English.
Celts are the best bet for the actual indigenous population, so actually the Irish, Welsh and Scots have a better claim at being English than the English do... XD

You call it your 'mind's connotations' but really it's just racism.

I'm aware that not all British are like that, but,well, it's kind of hard to shake off preconceived notions, so if I am racist for having a bunch of preconceived notions, then so be it... Also everybody else has preconceived notions about other people, just look at those that are in place currently about e.g. Greeks.. So the way I see it everybody is thus racist one way or another and nobody is completely free of prejudice..

And what is it that you want exactly? More relevance? More freedom? Less europroblems?