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snowkatt: ^ thats why i keep referring to tomb raider and uncharted
they evoke memories of indiana jones and the goonies ie adeventure movies
The Goonies were the shit!

Also I remember the game Powerslave (or Exhumed depending on your territory) was called a "First Person Adventure.
I quite like the term tbh.
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snowkatt: i still see the likes of tomb raider and uncharted which are heavily based on exploring tombs and ruins looking for artifacts as adventure ( or action adventure )
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Thaumaturge: I'm curious (genuinely): what term do you use for games in the "adventure" genre--games like Gabriel Knight, King's Quest, the Frogwares Sherlock Holmes games, and so on?
mostly by their interface
point and click games because thats what i end up doing at the time

or puzzle point and click
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snowkatt: ^ thats why i keep referring to tomb raider and uncharted
they evoke memories of indiana jones and the goonies ie adeventure movies
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ScotchMonkey: The Goonies were the shit!

Also I remember the game Powerslave (or Exhumed depending on your territory) was called a "First Person Adventure.
I quite like the term tbh.
exhumed where im from
and i played it on the saturn
Post edited February 18, 2015 by snowkatt
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snowkatt: ^ thats why i keep referring to tomb raider and uncharted
they evoke memories of indiana jones and the goonies ie adventure movies
Hmmm.... Uncharted just got on my nerves how linear it was, it was worse than FF-13 (which says a lot).

Yeah it probably evokes a bit of Indiana Jones, but i though Drake and his partner were both unlikeable and total jerks. Lara on the other hand was considerably more likable, although inconsistent between game and cutscenes...
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snowkatt: ^ thats why i keep referring to tomb raider and uncharted
they evoke memories of indiana jones and the goonies ie adventure movies
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rtcvb32: Hmmm.... Uncharted just got on my nerves how linear it was, it was worse than FF-13 (which says a lot).

Yeah it probably evokes a bit of Indiana Jones, but i though Drake and his partner were both unlikeable and total jerks. Lara on the other hand was considerably more likable, although inconsistent between game and cutscenes...
i dont like uncharted
it just one of the first titles that game to mind to illustrate my point
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Thaumaturge: I'm curious (genuinely): what term do you use for games in the "adventure" genre--games like Gabriel Knight, King's Quest, the Frogwares Sherlock Holmes games, and so on?
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snowkatt: mostly by their interface
point and click games because thats what i end up doing at the time

or puzzle point and click
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ScotchMonkey: The Goonies were the shit!

Also I remember the game Powerslave (or Exhumed depending on your territory) was called a "First Person Adventure.
I quite like the term tbh.
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snowkatt: exhumed where im from
and i played it on the saturn
Ahhh the Saturn, PS3 of its day. Mr Bones was awesome.I tried to emulate it recently but my system doesn't have the power.
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snowkatt: mostly by their interface
point and click games because thats what i end up doing at the time

or puzzle point and click

exhumed where im from
and i played it on the saturn
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ScotchMonkey: Ahhh the Saturn, PS3 of its day. Mr Bones was awesome.I tried to emulate it recently but my system doesn't have the power.
i am a unapologetic saturn fan
i have 5 of the machines
and around 60 games

its awesome
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Thaumaturge: I'm curious (genuinely): what term do you use for games in the "adventure" genre--games like Gabriel Knight, King's Quest, the Frogwares Sherlock Holmes games, and so on?
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snowkatt: mostly by their interface
point and click games because thats what i end up doing at the time
That's another popular name, sure, but that excludes all the text-based adventure games, though.
Granted, they are uncommon in this day and age, but still... So the historical name has its advantages, even if it seems counter-intuitive. (And it can be. Personally, as a tabletop RPG fan, I tend to rant when I see what videogamers put into the "Role Playing Game" folder nowadays, but RPG is still a useful name when you want to talk about videogames and be understood. It's part of a "common language", even if the roots of the language don't make sense anymore)
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snowkatt: mostly by their interface
point and click games because thats what i end up doing at the time
But based on the interface only, Diablo would be a point and click game, too. You'd just need to add the specification "action" to your "adventure", and the specification "adventure" after your "point and click" to be clearly understood by other gamers. ;)
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snowkatt: mostly by their interface
point and click games because thats what i end up doing at the time
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Leroux: But based on the interface only, Diablo would be a point and click game, too. You'd just need to add the specification "action" to your "adventure", and the specification "adventure" after your "point and click" to be clearly understood by other gamers. ;)
to me diablo is just an action rpg ( and not one i like all that much )

and adventure just doesnt call up games liek broken sword with me but tomb raider and the likes instead
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snowkatt: and adventure just doesnt call up games liek broken sword with me but tomb raider and the likes instead
Well, you can call the games whatever you like, I'm just saying in discussions with others it would be more convenient to use the commonly accepted, traditional names to make yourself understood, no matter how much or little sense they make to you. ;)

Or, to get back on topic, if you're a writer for an adventure game site, like the one who wrote about Grim Fandango, it stands to reason that you'd consider the genre traditions instead of making up your own ones (like "every adventure has to have autosaves!").

(Anyway, I was being nitpicky to prove a point; I think "point and click game" would be understood by most.)
Post edited February 18, 2015 by Leroux
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Licurg: Everybody is stupid . The end .
Are gamers today stupid? YES. OH THE HORROR YES:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrcFKLwhfbI
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Licurg: Everybody is stupid . The end .
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Elmofongo: Are gamers today stupid? YES. OH THE HORROR YES:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrcFKLwhfbI
This video clearly reminded me of why I never watch videos of people playing games. Most of the times it's like watching those stupid videos of people falling down stairs or off roofs or car crashes.

In the end it's a mess and most of the times someone got hurt.
In this case, the games.
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Breja: Are gamers today really that stupid?
Guys! Guys! GUYS!

Omigod, omigod. Um.

Uh, hey, does anybody... Oh, man. omigod.

Uh, hey, I have a friend... um, oh man. Look.

Does anybody know how to get a fork... uh... out of....

Look.

Um. Does anybody know how to get a fork... out... out of... Look. Out of, you know, out of your "rectal cavity"? Not mine, I mean. Just in theory. Like, if you somehow accidentally got a fork stuck... you know... "back there"? Just asking.

I mean, like, not the usual way. I mean like, business end first.

Any help really appreciated. I mean, probably. By somebody.

Thanks fellow gamers!
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snowkatt: mostly by their interface
point and click games because thats what i end up doing at the time
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Kardwill: That's another popular name, sure, but that excludes all the text-based adventure games, though.
Granted, they are uncommon in this day and age, but still... So the historical name has its advantages, even if it seems counter-intuitive. (And it can be. Personally, as a tabletop RPG fan, I tend to rant when I see what videogamers put into the "Role Playing Game" folder nowadays, but RPG is still a useful name when you want to talk about videogames and be understood. It's part of a "common language", even if the roots of the language don't make sense anymore)
It also excludes the controller-based adventures as well.

I've had this same discussion a few times in the past, and Leroux has covered most of my usual points. It's silly, the poor genre is so old that not only is it named in an antiquated fashion (the genre is named after the game it's cloning) but many of its other names are just descriptions of interface. "Point and click adventures" only got called "point and click" because back in its heyday, no other games were pointing and clicking!

I think my biggest point of aggravation is that it's the name of an existing literary genre. It would be as though we called every 2D shooter "Sci Fi" games because Spacewar and Space Invaders got there first.

I've been playing Adventure games since I was little, but I have no pride in its stupid, misleading name. If there was one genre I could rename entirely, it would be it.
Post edited February 18, 2015 by Blackdrazon
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yogsloth: Guys! Guys! GUYS!

Omigod, omigod. Um.

Uh, hey, does anybody... Oh, man. omigod.

Uh, hey, I have a friend... um, oh man. Look.

Does anybody know how to get a fork... uh... out of....
Strange. You have a fork, but you don't seem to have a point.





Yes, that was another bad pun. Thank you, I'll be here all week!