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I saw this & thought "Ooooh shizz, they have a Bong ball table too!?"

It is too early, need a stronger cuppa tea lol.
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shan2752: I recommend getting Classic Workbench (Get the UAE Version - http://classicwb.abime.net/) and then register for WHDLoad key (http://whdload.de/) and get all the WHDLoad prepackaged releases by searching Google. Much, much better than Amiga Forever. WHDLoad loads everything from the emulated hard disk. Support WHDLoad as the people who create installs put in a lot of effort.

You can get the kickstart roms searching through google as well. Don't bother with Amiga Forever. The Amiga is a 20 year old defunct computer so don't lose conscience over any copyright infringement. Preserving its legacy is more important than supporting those who pilfer the trademarks to make a buck.
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justanoldgamer: Thanks for the info but I prefer supporting Amiga Forever just like I prefer supporting GOG for old software instead of abandonware sites.
I managed to get WHDLoad working (registered) on Amiga Forever. But I can understand UAE is for tech-savvy, and in those hands probably better. It's kind of hard to define what game is free though :) Remember Cinemaware offering their games free on their official site. Then they released Wings here in gog and poof! - there were less games offered free for amiga :)
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elgonzo: Wrong date. Set it at June 1st, 1990... ;)
Nevertheless, the Amiga was (and still is) an awesome platform.
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Spectre: I think the Amiga was a few hundred pounds back then, an IBM PC would cost thousands in old money.
So what... An Austin Metro was at its time much much cheaper than a Ferrari. Does it mean the Austin Metro did beat the crap out of a Ferrari...? ;)

(No, no, i do not want to equate the Amiga with an Austin Metro and a PC with a Ferrari. I am just trying to illustrate that the price argument is simply irrelevant to the argument of who beats the crap out of whom...)
I don't know why this was necroed, but now I want an Amiga. A1200 preferably.
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Spectre: I think the Amiga was a few hundred pounds back then, an IBM PC would cost thousands in old money.
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Doc0075: Also even if PCs had caught up/ overtaken the Amiga hardware wise by 1990, it was still a few years before it became the norm for PC games to be better than the Amiga version.
I wouldn't say that it still took a few years before it became the norm for PC games to be better than the Amiga version.
Since around 1990 it was the norm for high-quality PC games to be technically better than high-quality Amiga games (not only due to support for VGA, Soundblaster/Roland, >1MB RAM, etc... , but also due to support for HD installations which became a standard part of installers for better PC games around that time).

That does not mean that the PC was the dominant gaming platform in 1990. For the PC to become the dominant gaming platform did indeed take a few years more...

Anyway, the Amiga had a lot of good games which were fun, and still are fun to play today. That the PC and its games were technically superior from some point in time onward is not taking away from the fun one can have with those golden oldies, right?


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sunshinecorp: I don't know why this was necroed, but now I want an Amiga. A1200 preferably.
That's because the love for Amiga will never die.
But the love for Amiga will dye... ...glasses with a rose tint :b
Post edited June 19, 2016 by elgonzo
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sunshinecorp: I don't know why this was necroed, but now I want an Amiga. A1200 preferably.
Just easier to stick about the new book here as anyone that likes Amiga (basically anyone with any sense ;p) will already have seen this thread & will see the good news :D

P.S. A1200 fan too \o/
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amok: On the 23d July this year, it will be exactly 30 years since the Amiga 1000 was unveiled for the first time (officially) at the Lincoln Center in New York.

I think it is time to begin the celebration of the greatest computer ever made. This will be the summer of the Amiga!

Starting with the 100 top voted Amiga games:
http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/votes_list.php

Link to Amiga Forever:
http://www.amigaforever.com/

The upcoming documentary, Viva Amiga: The story of a beautiful machine:
http://amigafilm.com/Site/Viva_Amiga_-_The_Documentary_Film.html

Kickstarter to the Amiga 30th Anniversary in California:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/890300835/amiga-30th-anniversary-in-california

Personally I have started the celebration right now by playing , and I have [url=http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=920]Ruff 'n' Tumble at the ready.
Sooooooooo jealous. When I was in my teens I wanted an Amiga soooo bad, but it just wasn't in the cards for me so I had to settle for several loaned C64s and later a loaned C128 instead, then an NES replacing the aging Atari 2600 I had. I never actually bought and owned a computer outright (nor received one as a gift) until 1994 when I bought a PC for college. I feel as if part of my youth was stolen from me having never owned or used an Amiga, left to only drool over screenshot photos in "Compute! Magazine".
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Doc0075: Also even if PCs had caught up/ overtaken the Amiga hardware wise by 1990, it was still a few years before it became the norm for PC games to be better than the Amiga version.
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elgonzo: I wouldn't say that it still took a few years before it became the norm for PC games to be better than the Amiga version.
Since around 1990 it was the norm for high-quality PC games to be technically better than high-quality Amiga games (not only due to support for VGA, Soundblaster/Roland, >1MB RAM, etc... , but also due to support for HD installations which became a standard part of installers for better PC games around that time).

That does not mean that the PC was the dominant gaming platform in 1990. For the PC to become the dominant gaming platform did indeed take a few years more...

Anyway, the Amiga had a lot of good games which were fun, and still are fun to play today. That the PC and its games were technically superior from some point in time onward is not taking away from the fun one can have with those golden oldies, right?

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sunshinecorp: I don't know why this was necroed, but now I want an Amiga. A1200 preferably.
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elgonzo: That's because the love for Amiga will never die.
But the love for Amiga will dye... ...glasses with a rose tint :b
The thing being that most PC games didn't really take advantage of the PCs improvements until 92/93. Until then a lot of the Amiga versions were better with the exception of RPGS/Adventures.
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Doc0075: The thing being that most PC games didn't really take advantage of the PCs improvements until 92/93. Until then a lot of the Amiga versions were better with the exception of RPGS/Adventures.
The thing is most PC games were (and still are) junk or are mediocre at best, either in technical or in game-play qualities (or both).
The thing is that also most Amiga games were junk or are mediocre at best, either in technical or in game-play qualities (or both).
How does this speak in favor of the Amiga platform? (I am not implying that it speaks in favor of the PC; i am just trying to make sense of your argument...)

PC games took advantage of improvements in PC tech when they happened. This did not just happened in 92/93, but rather happened and happens continuously. Not sure why you think 92/93 was the time when PC games became technologically better than Amiga games. That already happened in 1990, already then the good PC games were technologically more advanced than the good Amiga games of 1990...

Even before 92/93 (and certainly already in 1990) a lot of the PC versions were better with the exception of platformers, shmups and arcade racers (see what i did there? ;) )

P.S.: Remember that my original comment was a response to a remark about when did the PC "beat the crap" out of the Amiga; and the argument i am making is strictly about the technological merits and aspects of the games. In no way i want to imply or make an argument or comparison about qualities of game-play and having fun playing games (that would be entirely subjective and dependent on one's taste and preferred game genres...)
Post edited June 20, 2016 by elgonzo
After that post we will just agree to disagree.
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Spectre: I think the Amiga was a few hundred pounds back then, an IBM PC would cost thousands in old money.
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elgonzo: So what... An Austin Metro was at its time much much cheaper than a Ferrari. Does it mean the Austin Metro did beat the crap out of a Ferrari...? ;)

(No, no, i do not want to equate the Amiga with an Austin Metro and a PC with a Ferrari. I am just trying to illustrate that the price argument is simply irrelevant to the argument of who beats the crap out of whom...)
Ok that would then mean mainframes and supercomputers would beat the crap out of IBM PCs.
Don't know what you guys are talking about in here, but I just wanted to say I think this anniversary is the perfect time to bring Turrican 1, 2 and 3 to GOG.com (as well as other Amiga classics).
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samuraigaiden: Don't know what you guys are talking about in here, but I just wanted to say I think this anniversary is the perfect time to bring Turrican 1, 2 and 3 to GOG.com (as well as other Amiga classics).
YES!!

Unfortunately, Black Forest Games (Giana sisters, Rogue Stormers etc) tried to get licence to make new Turrican games, but didn`t get it :(
Fans of Amiga?
Heard of David Pleasance I dare say?
Want a new book all about the above?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/469255657/commodore-the-inside-story/description


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