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Telika GOG aims at providing games in their original experience (original low tech versions), and liberated from tacked on limitations (drm). I am not sure why they consider censored games satisfying. Is removed or altered content so much better than drm restrictions ? The GOG versions of Fallout, Giants, Gobliiins feel incomplete because of such details. And the edited parts make no sense on a site that also sells unaltered "mature" games (like Carmageddon, Farenheit, Witcher). I suggest that GOG should (if it doesn't already) treat censored versions as temporary "stopgap measures", keep looking for the original versions with the same energy as for unavailable games, and replace them as soon as they can. Or even, make censorship a DRM-level point during their negociations with titles owners.
ag87 Agreed uncensorship versions (except as controlled by the CUSTOMER through the game's config settings for the games that have them). While there is in some games some content I do not approve of at all (to say the least), what is problematic to a person differs from person to person and therefore needs to be the CUSTOMER'S choice; what someone else considers a problem may be fine with me and visa versa. It is NOT ethically appropriate for any reseller to make this determination, but rather to provide information about various potentially-offensive content (this is why rating systems exist for games and movies). As for legalities, ALL localized versions of the games need to be made available just as if the customer had bought the original product in a physical form. <br />
dgnfly The people at GOG can't even cope with violent games with AO rating how will they ever be capable of bringing uncensored games? GOG seems less like a storefront and more a behind the scenes progressive agenda type company with its own censorship when it comes to bringing certain games to their storefront.
VonKilotz Wouldn't it be a miracle to have the uncensored version of Manhunt 2?
yzane Yes. Please. Fallout? Come on.
cjgonzales87 This is a serious issue. I wasn't even aware of it. If you want to be the Steam killer, you've got to go all in. Not half ass. This is supposed to be for the people. We buy what we want. If it's a big deal to you, then verify age.
KiNgBrAdLeY7 1. Fallout 1 <br /> 2. Fallout 2 <br /> 3. Giants Citizen Kabuto <br /> 4. Gobliiins <br /> 5. Bloodrayne <br /> 6. GRIS (even an adventure game o_0 ) <br /> 7. Huniepop (even a riddle game) <br /> 8. Doom BGF Edition and all older Doom titles that are inside its bundle <br /> <br /> Not only that, but fans don't update the "list of censored games on gog" article, on gogwiki. And GOG itself lately, refuses devs asking to bring their uncensored games here, with the "it's too niche" excuse, even though said devs reach for partnership twice or more and those games have 500+ votes in the wishlist. <br /> <br /> Somebody might want to change the false, "in progress" label, into CANCELLED, or something. I mean, GOG was very true and upfront with us, concerning dropping older policies; this which isn't even a policy, what's the problem in downright admitting that they dropped the ball on that one, as well? <br /> <br /> Whatever happened to fidelity and mutual trust? Anyone???
KiNgBrAdLeY7 Gentlemen, we 've been conned. <br /> <br /> "GOG doesn't allow AO games, unless they have been censored, first" <br /> <br /> "And this is a consistent policy" <br /> <br /> At the end, only DRM-Free will stay; or trully was there, to begin with. We 've been had. Plus, there is a number of censored games already, even Fallout 1/2...
michaledek Censorship is spoiling the artistic vision of the author.
Skullmonkeys44 uncensored version does not only means <br /> NUDE / GORE / VERBAL or WRITTEN SWEAR WORD <br /> it also means <br /> REAL DIALOGUE (china for exemple, cut all political behavior from games in their games) <br /> CUTSCENES (some games were remade to match EUROPEAN or USA customers) <br /> etc...
EyeNixon Uncensored versions of old games that were censored for violence or content are fine. Pathetic people who look at animated child pornography can fuck off.
liltimmypoccet You loli watching pedos need to fucking die already
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Anihillus Censorship? Are you kidding me? Is it a CCCP deja vu?
DaemonPhoenix42 Man, wish I could edit comments. As for compliance regional laws then just grey it from the store. It's up to the devs imo.
DaemonPhoenix42 As a follow-up too my comment- Assuming GOG does censorship themselves, I feel GOG should have no hand in censorship outside of what they deam fit for there platform. IE. If you have to censor a game to allow it on the site, don't put it on the site.
DaemonPhoenix42 That's kinda often in the hands of the dev/publisher/localizer say a game dev'd in Japan, it'd get censored over here or the American team censor it themselves. Essentially GOG has little say in the matter. <br /> If your talking NSFW games then I'd just add an age gate, sure kids can lie but It'd leave the client team nonliable afaik.
Blueboy35 Hi everybody. <br /> I join my fellow GOG's gamer mates. <br /> I'm against all kind of censorship. <br /> Let's respect creator's ideas.
Saxonisc Censorship goes hand in hand with propaganda, as they are members of the same family.
Radiance1979 I have only one thing to say and that is... <br /> Beat Blades Haruka
Leouch I will never buy game with denuvo and game that is censored :/
ChavaiotH You have my voice. I'm against censorship.
asdfsldkfj123123 hope it can be done someday
TalentX Btw. I am still standing for uncensored versions of games of course. But considering the issues I explained on my earlier post I don't think that GOG can do much against it.
TalentX There are a variety of reasons why a censorship is considered, and sale platforms such as GOG are not the ones responsible for that. Let me explain: <br /> <br /> In certain countries the local laws requests the censorship of games where a rating of 18+ "seems not enough" with the conclusions of the authorized rating companies. If they cannot be convinced, the cause results in forced censorship or the game will considered to be put in the index of the local country (it means banning the game to - prohibit selling! - the game !within! the country where it was put in the index). The distribution within the country of the games is then considered forbidden (either the uncensored or indexed titles), while owning them is still allowed. Also importing is allowed, as long as it is not distributed within the country itself - this is also eligible for digital games. However some sale organizations have very strict region locks for unreasonable matters, because importing digital games is still allowed the same way as retail games. GOG however doesn't have this kind of strict region lock, but some games are not viewable for some country IPs, which is the minimum lock they're forced to do for the affected countries by law. <br /> <br /> Anyway, back to the topic, the Publishers/Devs want their games to be sold everywhere, so the index wouldn't be a good option (as it is not good for business), that's why they bring out different versions, censoring their titles on countries where it is considered a must due to the laws forcing them. Yet, sometimes a minority of games truly end up in the index of a few countries, because the Devs refuse to censor their projects. A common example would be Germany. <br /> <br /> Since there are many countries in the EU, I think it is also difficult to keep track with every authorized rating company and law issues from every single one of them, which is why some publishers considering to censor their game for the whole EU, while mostly the USA or other regions which are not restricted to distribute the original project by their respective rating companies. <br /> This is why sometimes a game ends up being censored regardless for all countries within the EU, while sometimes other regions gets an uncensored version. <br /> <br /> Although this is not always the case though. The age rating is also important for many games, 18+ is not good for Publishers, because the less the restrictions, the more people are allowed to buy the game. 12+ or 16+ is a lot better for them, since not only adults but also children are allowed to buy their games (better for business). <br /> That's also why sometimes censorships are considered, thus even in the USA sometimes games are censored to be able to sell them for 16+ instead of 18+ for example. Age restriction may vary still though, even without the affection of censorships. <br /> <br /> There are also games, which were originally announced and showcased in an uncensored version, but later they got censored worldwide before the release. That said, sometimes these objects are being treated as censorship too, although in this case the whole world is affected, you cannot really talk about a censorship, because there is no public "uncensored" version anyway thus you don't have any other option regardless and people causing bs on it completely in vain.
yahxpk It's completed. As I know, some games have been edited in German. I don't want to say it's wrong. It's the law ask for it.
delindsay What exactly is GOG censoring? Are you certain it's them specifically cutting out content or is it the Studio sending GOG a censored version so that they are allowed to sell it universally (certain Countries taking issue and banning some Games for tiny things).
NeoTheFox Please commit to the freedom of expression. It is very important for us as your clients.
The_Ghost IDK This was even a thing: seriously GOG, this isn't what you're about, what you stand for! No DRM, No Censorship!
The128K I've just joined GOG but already found censored versions amongst my first collection purchase. I want to experience my old games the way they were intended to be played, and with the vision from their creators.
Blue_Geforce Thank you GOG for providing us with DRM free games. Please don't censor your games. Make them a separate category only accessible to older players if need be. Keep doing great work!
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daniele90 Uncut version is one of the most important thing in gaming. Fuck the censorship.
Socratatus I didn`t know Gog had been censoring stuff! Signed. And wholly.
LordEbu So now we have VNs but censored? Don't do this, GOG...
odisos @GOG Status "in progress" but you even mentioned in your last announcement about Visual Novels, that you released the cut versions. Mark those games on the store page(every time!) and offer us the patches under the Goodies&Bonus sections or at least pin a post in the respectiv forum if you're incapable to release the uncut versions.
imranf1 Just add the uncensor patch to the download list, plus a disclaimer about NOT downloading it if illegal in your country, etc. The onus should be on the individual user - who will be the one facing prosecution for breaking the local laws - instead of the distributor (GOG) because this punishes everyone. <br /> <br /> Isn't this how it works for everything else? A seller shouldn't be prohibited from distributing X prescription online merely because it is illegal to buy in Y country.
SarahGabriella How do you think censorship works? They cant add games that arent allowed in your country and you can only buy games on GOG that are available in your country. I bought Postal 2 on here but now its banned on here too like anywhere else because of german ban. I dont even see it in the shop anymore, so glad i got it tho before it was removed. <br /> <br /> This is why you either cant see or wont ever see some games that have censored and uncensored version.
TueSR In the case where the costumers location mandates a certain version of a product, then this should be the version provided by GOG. This is easily done by checking location (and just as easily circumvented if you have access to a VPN). In the mean time I don't see any reason why GOG couldn't make availabe all the variable versions of a game and let the costumer choose which version they would prefer. I think this would be in the GOG spirit of not letting "Big Business" mandate how, when and what you play.
KernStern Let's not forget that many "censored" versions originate from the times, when some countries had requested to censor unreasonable things (for example, replacement of blood by some green liquid in Half-life copies that were sold in Germany). Thus, I support removal of restrictions of this kind.
Ffocsi Can you vote down?
magnusfl nudity is not in the same class as violence but both should have a rating but for an adult censorship simply sucks my solution is not let any buy games under 18 and the parent can set the level of violence and censorship they buy for there kids and make it an easy standard interface for parents to turn off the violence and add censorship
Wishmaster777 Boobs shouldn't be censored. Nor asses. Female that is.
MsDhoni Here i noticed a lot of people try to put the link but they don't know the exact code to create links. Make sure the working of editor.
SuntanIronMan Everything should of course be uncensored. But it's not GOG's choice on the matter. <a href="http://GOG.com" class="light_un" target="_blank">GOG.com</a> is simply being a law-abiding company. Please speak to your elected representative in your specific country about the issue. A representative democracy is the system of government most of us here have. If we want things changed, talking to our elected representatives is our best option for change (or running for elected office ourselves).
sasuke12 The problem with censorship is the country you are living in. <br /> <br /> If you are living in censorship loving country like Australia or Germany, then there is nothing much you can do.
Yangusan FYI Witcher 3 is also censored. At first it wasn't but later they added underwear to cover nude body parts. But when characters are not in full frontal, then underwear is removed. Its quite disappointing, as this game is for sure adult only, and would love to play it without any fake barriers. <br /> I think all games should be on list, and if your country forbid you from buying it, then just info about would be, so you would know your government screw you. This way you could something with it. Or try to change law or walk around it. Anyway GOG would have clean hands and still make profit. <br /> As for others, then censored game could be base and you could get patch removing censorship, or the best would be just option in game to remove censorship, as many game have option to censor blood and other silly stuff. So i think it wouldn't be a so big issue.
camilus What COOLIOWOLFUS said. Make the default install for countries with shitty laws install the censored version but give the user the option of installing the normal one if they click trough an agreement that they take full responsibility for any legal issues in doing so. <br /> <br /> For countries without stupid censorship laws ship the censored data files too, make the default uncensored, but give the user the option of installing the censored version if they want for whatever reason (idk, maybe I want to kill not!Nazi zombies from the German versions of games with Nazis?),
justme11.1 Let people make their own choices on content. Censorship is telling someone what it is appropriate for them.
CoolioWolfus If they have a legal issue with uncensored and geolock, having the uncensored for the non geolock and a waiver option that we sign to accept any legal fallout for gog to add the uncensored in the additional files section meaning the default will stay region specific keeping gog out of any heated caffine drink situations and we get the option to accept liability for the other version.
TwinSeeker Back in the good ol' days, there was no such thing as censorship, games really were games...pure and honest.
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