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Use a format that supports multiple languages & subbing. (MKV, OGG, MP4)

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this isn't a very intelligent request as all video formats support subbing as long as the media player supports it.

Dec. 11, 2016
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+1 here especially for the use of free (as in freedom) formats.

Nov. 6, 2016
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An OGG enconding would be perfect!

Sep. 8, 2016
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HEVC/H.265 (AV1 soon?) & Opus, in Matroska (MKV)! <3

Aug. 8, 2016
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There are devices that cannot handle MKV containers? Relevant ones? Wow. <br /> <br /> Besides every PC it plays well on the last three cellphones I used, my Tablet, my by now ancient WD TV, my Raspberry Pi, even my 2005-ish first generation XBox with XBox media center. <br /> <br /> It's just one of the most tested and widespread container formats that plays on virtually everything AND offers all features one could wish for.

Mar. 24, 2016
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Here's the deal: make _multiple_ formats available to download (e. g. english MP4, user's language MP4 and MKV with both audio tracks and also subs). This way, everybody would be happy (but it can be quite difficult to implement)

Mar. 12, 2016
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MKV's the best

Nov. 25, 2015
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Great, but this should be in features, I think.

Nov. 8, 2015
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OGG FTW o/

Oct. 18, 2015
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DTS would be the best. 7.1 channels.

Jul. 15, 2015
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H.265 all the way!

Jul. 12, 2015
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MKV all the way.

Jun. 19, 2015
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already have MP4. OGG would be nice. <br /> <br /> but MKV is still lacking in compatiblity across common devices and software. will not vote for this.

Jun. 9, 2015
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I hope MKV will be used for video container :)

May. 13, 2015
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Shmerl, giving anyone Lossy is a slap in the fact if you have the space for Lossless. You can say people can't tell the difference but as far as I'm concerned you should record for the top audiophile so since when he/she is happy everyone will be happy.

May. 2, 2015
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MKV + VP8/VP9/(in the future maybe)daala + vorbis/opus/FLAC would be awesome

Jan. 3, 2015
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While you are on adding additional file formats, Please include .flv as it is an incredibly useful format due to its widespread use and incredibly small file size, while not losing much in the way of vid/audio quality due to that formatting and compression

Dec. 17, 2014
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I am happy with mp4, although mkv might be better. <br /> <br /> What would be cool, would be integrated subtitles and languages. I do not want to have to download a separate pack of subtitles and integrate them manually.

Dec. 13, 2014
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There is no OGG video container, there is OGM. <br /> BUT, OGM is inferior to MKV anyway.

Dec. 9, 2014
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On a decent computer, it takes less than 2 minutes to remux 4h of film while storing the same film in multiple containers is expensive. Maybe GOG could provide a JS app to do that but providing it by default seems like a solution to a non-problem.

Nov. 12, 2014
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To be honest, I can't think of a major reason for GOG to support alternative containers. Their compatibility is lower across the board, space savings would probably be like 5MB per movie and truly, if a person is smart enough to know the differences between MP4 and MKV, they are already smart enough to convert container formats after they download the thing; it takes like 30 seconds per file, tops. <br /> <br /> That said, openness does sound like a reasonable angle, in which case WebM is probably the most likely option. But again, this would only be relevant to a very small amount of people, much smaller than the linux crowd even, and support for that took ages to arrive on the games side. So I wouldn't hold my breath..

Oct. 8, 2014
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I'm not buying any movies unless they have subs for my language. Gog should really consider adding subs for all possible languages.

Oct. 1, 2014
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Better than all is use only free and open codec (Theora,Vorbis,VP8 etc.) and MKV or OGG container. Pleas don't use H.264 or other non free codec due to usage restrictions and patent claims. I must remind that, not only organization vulnerable for that things, viewers vulnerable too. Take a look at this <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/371751" class="light_un" target="_blank">http://lwn.net/Articles/371751</a> mail of Director Global Licensing department of MPEG LA. Citation from this mail: <br /> <br /> "I would also like to mention that while our Licenses are not concluded by End Users, anyone in the product chain has liability if an end product is unlicensed. Therefore, a royalty paid for an end product by the end product supplier would render the product licensed in the hands of the End User, but where a royalty has not been paid, such a product remains unlicensed and any downstream users/distributors would have liability." <br /> <br /> I sure that, GOG ensured licence purity, but nobody fully insured from "MPEG LA and Co" accusations.

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New to the site here, but thought i'd jump in. <br /> <br /> .MKV is definitely the way to go. It allows for maximum quality, and minimum file size when using the H.264 codec. In addition to easy to use subtitles. It is a massive space/bandwidth saver to use this so long as the files are encoded properly. <br /> <br /> The only other file type that should be included is .MP4, Reason being is that it's more universal. Runs on older machines better(like XP).

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I havent tried all the movies but they seem to be in MP4 and with multiple subtitle streams (not sure about audio but MP4 supports that)... Therefore what's the point of this wish if it's already like that?

Sep. 12, 2014
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mkv or ogg

Aug. 31, 2014
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@shmerl I don't think that lossless audio would be useless. Most of today's popular lossy codecs were invented in a time where PC's had the disk space of nowadays Smartphones. I think offering a version of the video with lossless audio wouldn't be that big deal. Much videos on YouTube have over 20 different versions. <br /> <br /> And about the link you posted: It's not about the fact that lossless audio doesn't make sense. It's about the fact that audio with a higher sample rate than 48 kHz and a higher bit depth than 16 Bit doesn't make sense. Lossless audio actually is under the headline of what would make sense. <br />

Aug. 31, 2014
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Yes, please fully support MKV, with embedded multiple audio streams, subtitles (different languages, forced only, foreign language only) and chapters.

Aug. 28, 2014
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This really is nonoptional. Any digital movie I buy online has to have both subs and multiple audio languages. (Ideally this would also include little localization details, like Captain America's different lists depending on what region you bought/saw Winter Soldier in, but now I'm just being greedy.) <br /> <br /> Really, these features are every bit as important as DRM-free.

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Standalone players and such are usually dragging their support for formats, coming the last to support anything new. So may be measuring the choice of formats by them is a bad idea since it will hold GOG off from using better technology.

Aug. 27, 2014
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I personally wouldn't care about TVs and standalone players, I'm using computers for video. But for others it can be useful.

Aug. 27, 2014
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Making many options is expensive storage wise. Video eats tons of disk space, so multiply that by the number of formats you support and you'll get the idea of the increased cost. <br /> <br /> Using lossless audio can have two reasons: <br /> <br /> 1. You want to preserve the master file for further processing (reencoding, noise editing, whatever). <br /> 2. You have no high quality lossy encoder which makes lossy audio indistinguishable from the lossless. <br /> <br /> If you are talking about #2, it shouldn't be an issue. There are high quality encoders around which can provide lossy encoding that your ear won't be able to distinguish from the lossless one. <br /> <br /> See <a href="https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html" class="light_un" target="_blank">https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html</a>

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Agreed on the multi audio and subs option, but the used format / encode should also be compatible with TVs and standalone players. OGG is not compatible/supported, the same goes for FLAC.

Aug. 27, 2014
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The only reason why I considered FLAC: when looking at the use of that digital file as a 1:1 replacement for a BD. Instead of buying the BD version of the film you could have access to the digital file allowing you to have lossless audio quality without having to use a BD. I do understand the inherent weirdness of having lossy video with lossless audio though. <br /> <br /> When considering the need for a video that can stream, I'm sure GOG could just use one file for DL purposes and a different file on their servers that is streamable though - couldn't they?

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Those who are interested in the subject, see <a href="http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/video/Free_Codecs_Update_Opus_and_Daala.ogv" class="light_un" target="_blank">http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/video/Free_Codecs_Update_Opus_and_Daala.ogv</a>

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Next generation video will use Daala for video and Opus for audio (not sure in what container). That would be ideal, but it's not ready yet.

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No. First of all whatever GOG will use should be HTML streamable. That leaves not so many options - either MP4 (H.26x / AAC) or WebM (VPx / Vorbis). <br /> <br /> Using FLAC or other uncompressed audio options in video is pointless - GOG doesn't release master files for others to edit. They can get good quality by using proper lossy encoders, so you won't be able to distinguish any difference in audio. <br /> <br /> Normally, the reason to use FLAC or other lossless options is when you expect to use that as a master file (to reencode, edit and so on).

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I'm thinking the best combination would probably be MKV/AC3 or MKV/FLAC for an compressed and uncompressed option.

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I don't think there is a point to use Ogg (with Theora codec) when there is WebM (using Matroska container with VP9 and Vorbis codecs).

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<a href="http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/more_video_format_options_usage_of_mkvs_etc_instead_of_just_mp4" class="light_un" target="_blank">http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/more_video_format_options_usage_of_mkvs_etc_instead_of_just_mp4</a> <br /> <br /> Another similar wish I created under the Site Features wishlist.

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The encoding data (however minimal) is listed on each movies page - as it stands, some of the movies have subtitles. Many don't however since many of these Indie documentaries were not originally subbed by the original producers.

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When I tried to initiate a download, the file had a .mp4 extension...

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Should be under Requested Features instead. I hope that GOG's moderators can move the request without losing the votes. because this request is important..

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They don't ?!

Aug. 27, 2014
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