Posted 3 days ago
SargonAelther
Pls add Offline Installers for My Rewards!
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dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
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Syphon72
GOG personal fanatic cult leader
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Posted 3 days ago
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dnovraD: Saved Click: GOG isn't accomidating their needs, helping them automate builds, and the lack of a workshop is another problem.
Automating builds seems like a reasonable complaint. But how is a lack of workshops a problem for them? Wouldn't that be more of a problem for non-Steam users than just an extra feature? Dose steam automate builds?
It sounds like they do not want to waste time working on the GOG version. I'm still confused about how it would be so much work to keep the GOG version updated. Steam and GOG are just storefronts for PCs. They act like it's porting a game to another OS.
Post edited 3 days ago by Syphon72
g2222
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Posted 3 days ago
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dnovraD: Saved Click: GOG isn't accomidating their needs, helping them automate builds, and the lack of a workshop is another problem.
Blaming GOG alone isn't fair, though. Some of the comments show the situation in a different light. There, it sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy: Dev doesn't like the platform -> puts in no effort (missing features, lack of updates, no advertising) -> potential customers ignore the game -> poor sales -> dev's negative opinion gets affirmed ("it's not worth it" / "the audience isn't there")
A lose-lose situation for all parties.
Post edited 3 days ago by g2222
kultpcgames
Stolzer Träger des 8. Dan in Gamewondo
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From Germany
Posted 3 days ago
Yes, it's a shame, but I've developed a thick skin and put on my good mood glasses.
Every EA, Ubi, Capcom, Bandai, Konami, MS, etc. game that doesn't appear here allows other developers to make money from me.
So now I'm going to have a nice game, because the weather isn't that great today.
Every EA, Ubi, Capcom, Bandai, Konami, MS, etc. game that doesn't appear here allows other developers to make money from me.
So now I'm going to have a nice game, because the weather isn't that great today.
BreOl72
Gamer since Pong on the Atari 2600
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From Germany
Posted 3 days ago
Good (and true) point!
Catventurer
Savior of Cats
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Posted 2 days ago
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dnovraD: Saved Click: GOG isn't accomidating their needs, helping them automate builds, and the lack of a workshop is another problem.
g2222: Blaming GOG alone isn't fair, though. Some of the comments show the situation in a different light. There, it sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy: Dev doesn't like the platform -> puts in no effort (missing features, lack of updates, no advertising) -> potential customers ignore the game -> poor sales -> dev's negative opinion gets affirmed ("it's not worth it" / "the audience isn't there")
A lose-lose situation for all parties.
dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
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Posted 2 days ago
Syphon72: Automating builds seems like a reasonable complaint. But how is a lack of workshops a problem for them? Wouldn't that be more of a problem for non-Steam users than just an extra feature?
Dose steam automate builds?
It sounds like they do not want to waste time working on the GOG version. I'm still confused about how it would be so much work to keep the GOG version updated. Steam and GOG are just storefronts for PCs. They act like it's porting a game to another OS.
We've heard varying reports over the years from various developers on how easy it is to keep a game updated. Some compare it to the worst bureaucracy that the Ministerstwo Infrastruktury could offer while you're attempting to report a particularly large pothole. Dose steam automate builds?
It sounds like they do not want to waste time working on the GOG version. I'm still confused about how it would be so much work to keep the GOG version updated. Steam and GOG are just storefronts for PCs. They act like it's porting a game to another OS.
For example, manual invoicing has been cited as a pain before.
Others seem to drop off their updates like clockwork and you can tell it's Friday again because Caves of Qud has updated again. So not only is there a consistancy issue, but GOG clearly has treated others differently, as they have often done so.
Syphon72
GOG personal fanatic cult leader
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Posted 2 days ago
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Syphon72: Automating builds seems like a reasonable complaint. But how is a lack of workshops a problem for them? Wouldn't that be more of a problem for non-Steam users than just an extra feature?
Dose steam automate builds?
It sounds like they do not want to waste time working on the GOG version. I'm still confused about how it would be so much work to keep the GOG version updated. Steam and GOG are just storefronts for PCs. They act like it's porting a game to another OS.
dnovraD: We've heard varying reports over the years from various developers on how easy it is to keep a game updated. Some compare it to the worst bureaucracy that the Ministerstwo Infrastruktury could offer while you're attempting to report a particularly large pothole. Dose steam automate builds?
It sounds like they do not want to waste time working on the GOG version. I'm still confused about how it would be so much work to keep the GOG version updated. Steam and GOG are just storefronts for PCs. They act like it's porting a game to another OS.
For example, manual invoicing has been cited as a pain before.
Others seem to drop off their updates like clockwork and you can tell it's Friday again because Caves of Qud has updated again. So not only is there a consistancy issue, but GOG clearly has treated others differently, as they have often done so.
When I see a single developer updating the GOG and Steam versions at the same time, It makes me not believe some developers 100%. Either way, GOG should always be finding more ways to improve the process.
Edit: One guy on reddit mentioned updates started going down hill once workshop was integrated. Like to also point out, the Dev said the player base was so low that work supporting the game was not worth it. This could be said about any storefront that is not steam. People seem to forget the game is on Xbox/MS store, and the Dev said only steam is getting the DLC right now.
Post edited 2 days ago by Syphon72
mqstout
Pittsburgh cis-gay-male
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Posted 2 days ago
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Syphon72: That's the thing; we have some saying it's bad and too much hassle. At the same time, other developers are updating like it's a piece of cake.
When I see a single developer updating the GOG and Steam versions at the same time, It makes me not believe some developers 100%. Either way, GOG should always be finding more ways to improve the process.
I'm very much on the skeptical side. I see tons of games -- both large and small; with DLC and without; big team and small team -- that get updates on GOG easily and timely compared to the other places. It's all about how well they developed their title and build environment. When I see a single developer updating the GOG and Steam versions at the same time, It makes me not believe some developers 100%. Either way, GOG should always be finding more ways to improve the process.
I can definitely believe "harder once we did Workshop". That's a lot more "optional" code to have to compile for conditionally. That's the whole point of Workshop -- to get more Steam lock-in.
Post edited 2 days ago by mqstout
mk47at
There's only one Phil Taylor…
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From Germany
Posted 2 days ago
Obviously, but the most lock-in has to come from mods not being available elsewhere – if the creator does not want to provide other download options.
Alexim
Dark Lord of the Sith
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From Italy
Posted 13 hours ago
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For those interested, these 3 games may be at risk:
Someday You'll Return - Replaced by Director's Cut on Steam
Braid - Replaced by Anniversary Edition on Steam
Planet Nomads - Removed from Steam long ago: https://steamcommunity.com/app/504050/discussions/0/4211496988417143380/
Someday You'll Return - Replaced by Director's Cut on Steam
Braid - Replaced by Anniversary Edition on Steam
Planet Nomads - Removed from Steam long ago: https://steamcommunity.com/app/504050/discussions/0/4211496988417143380/
Post edited 13 hours ago by Alexim