How is Geralt's relationship with Triss in The Witcher 2 better than the relationships in Mass Effect 2? The Jack relationship alone is deeper than anything in either Witcher game, since you have to gradually break down her defenses.

If anything, CD Projekt's take on sexuality in The Witcher 2 is incredibly juvenile and based exclusively on its players' desire to see T&A.

Since you seem to think this is an absolute, here are some of many examples of gray areas:

- Elnora, during the Samara recruitment mission
- The Migrant Fleet
- Garrus vs. Sidonis
- Jack vs. Cerberus
- Cerberus' betrayal
- Khalisah al-Jilani
- Noveria
- Heretic Station
- Mordin and the Genophage

Hell, the entire Paragon-Renegade system is made up of shades of gray. It's not light vs. dark, as in KOTOR -- it's ruthless leadership vs. goody goody idiocy.

Again, we're going to have to agree to disagree.

And you are what I call a huge waste of time.

And here come the personal attacks in place of an actual argument. I was wondering how long it'd take.

It's as much of a personal attack as accusing others of "illogical hate".

Bioware games certainly don't lack good characters, adult storytelling and innovative world building. What they lack are engaging game mechanics. Especially Mass Effect feels like being much closer to movies than to games. Don't get me wrong, they are hugely entertaining and enjoyable, but not because their combat system, character development or world exploration.

TW2 is an absolutely delightful game (the first two chapter at least), but compared to TW1 I feel it's a huge step toward Bioware view of what RPG genre should be. Thing is, I like my Witcher more hardcore.

Oh well, I guess you cannot make really hardcore AAA games in a world where you get screamed at just because the combat system is actually challenging and not an utter joke.

Game is pretty hard core. Seems pretty much the same as TW1. What do you feel is watered down?

PC gaming still healthy. witcher 2 proof it

Bioware is nowhere near as gritty as I would have liked, though. Even Jack in ME2 is pretty tame despite the character she was supposed to be. It's like someone at Bioware is a huge Disney fan and wants to have all the dark characters have a soft spot.

In the end, I find Bioware's writing to be too ... typical. There's no real surprises and it's obvious they have some strict limits to their subject matters. TW2 is far more real and has adult themes like rape, political motives, etc. while Bioware's approach to such matters, feel as if they're holding way back. Adding the lesbian love scene to ME1 was so funny because of how it stood in contrast of how Bioware otherwise works: nice and safe.

In contrast, The Witcher never pulls any punches. Full on racism, murder, rape, abuse, nudity, swearing, etc. We need more games like that.

Well, Wizardry 7 is pretty hard core.

But I accept this kind of hardcore is dead and will not be any more. I'm talking more about the game world, which in TW2 is too tight and small for my taste, not too many NPCs, the game mechanics itself (inventory, character development etc.) is not much more complex than Diablo-type RPGs...in other words TW2 is a great game, but it's more about the cinematic, the visual experience than hardcore character building and world exploring.

I enjoyed the first Witcher immensely, it's in my all time top ten, but I'd enjoy it even more with more complex game mechanics, that's my point.

Hey, at least someone recognized my avatar!

Most PC games are at least $10 bucks cheaper then consoles probably because of licensing fees, until most recently when the gready ba$tards got savvy that the PC market was lucrative!! Anyways I usually wait a few weeks cause Best Buy will usually sell PC games for 25-30% off.
Interesting how the OP just stated facts about TW2 sales implying it was doing well in the scheme of things...Now its niggardly wittled down to Bioware vs the world!!

I hate the Man so I hate(disrespect) EA! Could you please explain the dynamics of EA's buyout of Bioware. Was it a hostile takeover or did Bioware Corp just want the money.

I would like you to explain so I wont misplace my HATE!! Thank you for your viewpoint and could you base it on some facts although my judgement could be clouded by those.

vg holding was the former owner of bioware and it looks like bioware was sold by vg holding like a vulgar hotdog to ea. http://kotaku.com/309937/ea-buys-bioware-pandemic

Thanks for the link, now that I'm less ignorant I can truly say I'll never buy another EA game again(unless its good)...wink