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The Witcher 2Steam patch size = 9,281.8 MB ?(134 posts)(134 posts)
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Posted May 26, 2011
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madgernader: This happens to me on steam all the time, my portal 2 had to redownload multiple times, same goes for my left4dead 2, HL2, and CSS. As for non valve games I've had this happen to Serious Sam HD, Natural Selection 2, Saints Row 2, KIilling floor, Magicka, and many others. This is why I'm buying this game from gog, so I can do patches myself the right way.
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Kradath: Than it is possible that something's wrong with your steam or system, as I have every single on of those games and never encountered this problem with them. oO
Yes, you are correct this is Cd projects doing not steam again all they have to do it:

extract this massive file and make this extracted version the base version in steam.
This is on CDProject not steam, all devs do this so the downloads are small. Maybe where steam competes with GOG they did it on purpose.

Cd project know how steam works, no other dev has patches this large on steam.
Posted May 26, 2011
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Kradath: The Valve games get recent engine updates, but for me it is mostly not even 1mb of a download.
Yup, but the downloads tab still says that it's downloading the game, as in it states the game's name rather than patch. I suppose some people simply don't read what it says on the size portion of the page.
Posted May 26, 2011
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Kradath: Than it is possible that something's wrong with your steam or system, as I have every single on of those games and never encountered this problem with them. oO
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eisberg77: Steam never patched those games for you? What he is saying that Steam doesn't do patches, but instead they just replace any modified file. With the Witcher 2, it is a 9.2 GB file in the game that gets patched, so Steam does what it does for all games, it downloads to you the modified file, which in this case is a 9.2 GB file. Where as other version for this game it is a 9-16 mb patch file that modifies the 9 gb file.
Thats not what he said, again all Cd project had to do was:

extract this massive file and make this extracted version the base version in steam.
This is on CDProject not steam, all devs do this so the downloads are small. Maybe where steam competes with GOG they did it on purpose.


No excuse, this is just lazy on their part, not 1 single game has done this, and I have a lot in my steam folder.
Posted May 26, 2011
To be honest, patcher should create a new file like pack0_patch.dzip and put updated files there.
Posted May 26, 2011
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eisberg77: Steam never patched those games for you? What he is saying that Steam doesn't do patches, but instead they just replace any modified file. With the Witcher 2, it is a 9.2 GB file in the game that gets patched, so Steam does what it does for all games, it downloads to you the modified file, which in this case is a 9.2 GB file. Where as other version for this game it is a 9-16 mb patch file that modifies the 9 gb file.
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mastorofpuppetz: Thats not what he said, again all Cd project had to do was:

extract this massive file and make this extracted version the base version in steam.
This is on CDProject not steam, all devs do this so the downloads are small. Maybe where steam competes with GOG they did it on purpose.


No excuse, this is just lazy on their part, not 1 single game has done this, and I have a lot in my steam folder.
How do you know they can even be extracted and the game still work?
Posted May 26, 2011
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eisberg77: How do you know they can even be extracted and the game still work?
Mods work, so this would work as well.

Mods are nothing else but extracted files which get edited.
Post edited May 26, 2011 by Kradath
Posted May 26, 2011
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Kradath: Than it is possible that something's wrong with your steam or system, as I have every single on of those games and never encountered this problem with them. oO
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Borlag: Apart from one game, I have them all too and could say the same thing. I pretty much know what he means though. Pretty much all Valve games get regular updates to them, sometimes even weekly. On the downloads tab all you see is the game and its size, the top part however shows the actual downloaded amount, which it appears he failed to notice.
No, I always keep watch on those parts, I have limited bandwidth so I watch how my downloads go and keep track of how much I do at once and they don't download small files.

Portal 2 for example was working fine, all files validated no problems and when it "updated" I checked the actual install file in steamapps/common to find that steam had deleted most of my files. It only does this for updates as my games are all fine and dandy until a patch is released.

This also doesnt happen to all my games, or my games all the time. CSS, and HL2 for example usually only get random like 9mb ones no problem, but every so often it purges or something.
Posted May 26, 2011
I don't have the Steam version, but I did run into the same issue in another game (Divinity 2). Try exiting and restarting steam, that fixed for it that game at least - I only had to download the patch files then.
Posted May 26, 2011
I wouldn't be surprised if CDPR did this on purpose. There's no way they don't know how Steam works, and given their affiliation with GOG.com, it's not out of the question. Luckily I bought the GOG version, but it's still kinda shady.
Posted May 26, 2011
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mastorofpuppetz: Thats not what he said, again all Cd project had to do was:

extract this massive file and make this extracted version the base version in steam.
This is on CDProject not steam, all devs do this so the downloads are small. Maybe where steam competes with GOG they did it on purpose.


No excuse, this is just lazy on their part, not 1 single game has done this, and I have a lot in my steam folder.
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eisberg77: How do you know they can even be extracted and the game still work?
because all devs do it daily, there are threads on the steam forums about this, this just either an oversight on CD red's part, or laziness, or trying to get more people to use GOG.
Posted May 26, 2011
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mastorofpuppetz: because all devs do it daily, there are threads on the steam forums about this, this just either an oversight on CD red's part, or laziness, or trying to get more people to use GOG.
Too be honest that makes not much sense. GOG is mainly for old, little games. You won't have this problems with those older games on steam (when they're even available there)
Posted May 26, 2011
Okay, here's some facts folks:
1) Steam version of Witcher2 is downloading the whole pak0.dzip file. For everyone, it's not a bug, restarting steam right now will not fix it.
2) Apart from some bugs and some special cases, this is not how things go for game downloads/patch downloads on steam.
3) Extracted pak0.dzip file works, and that's how mods work as well.
4) It'd be the best option to divide up pak0.dzip into 20-30 files and update them for steam. Steam can't do it itself, CDR has to provide the file structure. I'd love to see it totally unpacked, but I have a feeling CDR won't come to do that.

Sooo, yeah. I won't be playing Witcher 2 for a day or so due to the 9gb dl and my low bandwidth, and if it's going to be the same in the next week, CDR might well lose a lot of future steam customers.
Posted May 26, 2011
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Musluk: Okay, here's some facts folks:
1) Steam version of Witcher2 is downloading the whole pak0.dzip file. For everyone, it's not a bug, restarting steam right now will not fix it.
2) Apart from some bugs and some special cases, this is not how things go for game downloads/patch downloads on steam.
3) Extracted pak0.dzip file works, and that's how mods work as well.
4) It'd be the best option to divide up pak0.dzip into 20-30 files and update them for steam. Steam can't do it itself, CDR has to provide the file structure. I'd love to see it totally unpacked, but I have a feeling CDR won't come to do that.

Sooo, yeah. I won't be playing Witcher 2 for a day or so due to the 9gb dl and my low bandwidth, and if it's going to be the same in the next week, CDR might well lose a lot of future steam customers.
Exactly, and this would only take CD project a few minutes, its not complicated.
Posted May 26, 2011
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soldiergeralt: it's steam's fault, actually. that's how they update files, unlike regular installers which can automatically pack them.
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Kradath: 99% of games don't have this problem.
Where did that percent come from?
Posted May 26, 2011
Well, the only experience I have with Steam, and last one, was with Fallout New Vegas.
I bought the retail version of it, not realizing it had Steam.

I started the installation, and instead of installing from the DVD which contains the entire game, it started downloading the game from Steam.

I stopped the installation 2-3 times after the Steam vir.. er.. client tried to re-download over and over again. Finally, at the 3rd-4th try, for whatever reason, the game started installing from the DVD.

... then the real fun started when the Steam viru.. er... client decided to over-write my quicksaves and autosaves every time I started the game...

Of course, according to the Steam crowd over at the Bethesda forums, it was all Bethesda's fault.
Post edited May 26, 2011 by SystemShock7
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