Plus he is a miserable wretch who isn't that perfect in resolving issues as seems to be. He always makes plans from scratch, which proves to have always huge kickbacks, -see Loredos house, and the Mighty Conspiracy, which cost him his whole innocent unit-. So nothing happens as he wants. So the finesse things, like assasination, politics, and foreseeing never worked for him without our Great friend, Geralt. He is the kind of men who is made for doing dirty laundry. Nothing more, nothing less. He has the sufficient loyalty and honour to fit for kings, but he isn't really that Paladin type in his heart. It's not that punctual in his works like Iorveth, the hunter, who "conquers by courage, rather than force".

But these weaknesses are explained completely by his childhood and past: A lifelong frustration because being a whoreson. Therefore he is rutheless with oppositions, "looses its aim when gets upset"-Foltest.
And I think because of this he lacks a bit necesary confidence, which is proven in many conversations with Geralt, when he assures himself about his perfection.

Sorry, but if you take your moral compass, or use the characters in TW2 as representations of real life - I wouldn't know what to say. Grow up?

Roche is the kind of guy who takes things very personally and politics it is a dangerous game so yeah i think he should of known better where to stick his head but i think at the same time he was not accounting on his king to be dead.

So i think he was thinking that if something would go wrong the king would be there to bail him out...

It could help probably to read the witcher books to see how much it differs from the game...

Roche's one-man war against Kaedwen is, like the rest of the game, long after the books. I don't know whether Roche gets much of any attention in the books.

Dethmold was a rank-and-file mage in the service of Kovir at the time of the Thanedd coup; he fled and later joined Henselt's court, where he grew to notoriety.

Concerning Roche's savagery toward Dethmold, it mustn't be overlooked that Dethmold was known as a necromancer, and necromancers are hated even beyond reason in the North. Roche defiled his living body only so much as Dethmold defiled the corpses and souls of his victims.

Well, you really don't have to say anything since the question wasn't directed at you anyway, so there is no need for you to go to any trouble. You can rest assured however that I do not view video game characters as "representing real life", especially those that are in a fantasy game. However, homosexuality itself is certainly something that does occur in real life with homosexuals being real people with real feelings and sometimes very real interest in how they are portrayed in the media and in fiction, realistically represented or otherwise. And Dethmold is the first obviously gay male character that I am aware of in the entire Witcher game series, so hopefully you can forgive me for my strong curiosity about it and about the rational behind how the subject matter was handled. If you feel that this is childish of me and means that I need to "grow up", that's perfectly fine and I make no apologies for it. At the end of the day, its none of my business what you think of me anyway.

This is possibly the motive, but if so, its not something that I saw very clearly before Dethmold's castration at any point of the story or during the castration. Its not as though he was in the process of carving up a dead body and trying to summon its spirit at the time that Geralt and Roche barged in on him. The only set up I saw there was that Dethmold had been on the verge of having sex with another man and then I saw him having his sexual organs removed by an angry Roche. Your explanation is again, something that is entirely plausible and I accept the possibility, but it still leaves me wondering what the game developers were thinking when they chose to handle it the way they did. I must sound like a broken record here and I am sorry about that, but these are my sincere feelings about this issue.

I sympathize with your concern over the portrayal of Dethmold as gay. I don't think it's fair to gays either. (Polish society is not noted for being accepting of gays; I don't know how much that played in the developers' willingness to portray Dethmold that way.)

I don't know whether it makes it more unfair or makes more justification for Roche, but Dethmold is clearly (to me, anyway) portrayed as a rapist. That poor servant boy is terrified of him, and it's not a difficult jump to the reason why.

Yeah, its kind of sticky all around. If his intent was rape, that makes it even more "blah", in my opinion.

I definitely appreciate your sympathy. Thanks. :)

It kind of does sadden me that Polish society is the way that you describe, being that I am of Polish descent. I strongly identify as Polish American and am proud that a significant part of my family comes from Poland, but I am also quite unabashedly proud of loving who I love and I know with absolute certainty which I would choose if it came down to me having to choose. Fortunately, times they are a changin' and its only a matter of time before beautiful Poland catches up. The "in the meantime" kinda sucks though.

Poland's improved a lot since they threw the Communists out of power, but the RCC is still a powerful force there, and tolerance is not its middle name. LGBT's were never illegal there, as opposed to much of the US, where some jurisdictions still try to enforce "sodomy" laws even though those were all voided in 2003.

Indeed, things in the USA are by no means perfect for gays.

That being said, I would like to respectfully add that if Catholic influence has anything to do with why homosexuality has been handled this way in The Witcher game series, its pretty ironic, because the Catholic Church would frown just as deeply on Geralt's womanizing, whoring and inter-species fornicating, heterosexual though it may be.

Edit: I had originally made a much longer post where I touched on my feelings about Catholicism and politics (I am not Anti-Catholic by any means) and even quoted the Catechism a little, but then I thought better of it. I am not sure what the policy is at GOG.com when it comes to discussing religion anyway. Better safe that sorry. Besides, it went a bit off topic anyway.

People, come on, really. Leave the homosexuality to be and don"t overexagerate that much.
Dethmold was a baaad, really baad , mean sinful moth****cker .And a gay. The End!

In those days, homosexuality was rife.

In war, the victor would sometimes rape the vanquished as a sign of conquest and domination.

I don't get this fixation with Dethmold.

Let's see: maybe because he's one of the principal NPCs, it would be nice to have a thread where we could explore his character, motives, and flaws? The world doesn't revolve around just Geralt (including why he can't cast signs when you press the Q key at the wrong time).

Just because my Geralt feels like he has to jump in the river to decontaminate himself after talking to him, doesn't mean he shouldn't be talked about.

Point taken.
But..... still don't get it.
Seriously.

..................

Never mind me. Just saying, is all.
By all mean, continue fixating.

Oh come on, he's not that bad. If the whole slave thing and generally treating others like stepping stones are what make him so bad, then you and I both live in a country founded by several Dethmold-types.

It's all about perspective.