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I stayed away from media on 3 because when I like a game I stay away from media. Then I heard that the voice actor and comedy was drastically different and the gameplay was very Doom 2016..

So I watched and the new voice actor is awful compared to the one before. Also the jokes.. so tame and way more politically correct.

It's ok to have some fun.. I don't understand why they changed it and I was about to buy it but now? No ty.

I just don't get it
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d0x360: I stayed away from media on 3 because when I like a game I stay away from media. Then I heard that the voice actor and comedy was drastically different and the gameplay was very Doom 2016..

So I watched and the new voice actor is awful compared to the one before. Also the jokes.. so tame and way more politically correct.

It's ok to have some fun.. I don't understand why they changed it and I was about to buy it but now? No ty.

I just don't get it
Long story short they bought into the mindset of ''Unless someone matches a charater race ,sex and idenity then its very bigoted'' crude.. whichj atleast in real life that has some basis but not VA work.. And the jokes they was doing they somehow believe they all are now racist and culturally incessitive and in Shadow warrors 2 case also abit Transphobic do to this cutscene that was played as pretty much supporting Lo Wang if he was indeed Trans despite it was just a misunderstanding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwIjNHtCqf8
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d0x360: I stayed away from media on 3 because when I like a game I stay away from media. Then I heard that the voice actor and comedy was drastically different and the gameplay was very Doom 2016..

So I watched and the new voice actor is awful compared to the one before. Also the jokes.. so tame and way more politically correct.

It's ok to have some fun.. I don't understand why they changed it and I was about to buy it but now? No ty.

I just don't get it
It does not look like Shadow Warrior anymore to me. I think the days of playing new Shadow Warrior games is over. >.>
Having played it from start to finish, 5 hours, they killed the franchise.

The voice acting is bad, the gameplay is a weak doom-esque thing. It can be fun for a quick weekend play when it's 75% off or something. But other than that, Flying Wild Hog dropped the ball. I'm disappointed as hell.
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soulwynd: Having played it from start to finish, 5 hours, they killed the franchise.

The voice acting is bad, the gameplay is a weak doom-esque thing. It can be fun for a quick weekend play when it's 75% off or something. But other than that, Flying Wild Hog dropped the ball. I'm disappointed as hell.
Maybe not have killed, just postponed future productions for another 15~ years.

To OP, 'too many people' were offended of SW2. I really hate how people are so extremely thinned skinned these days.
Post edited March 05, 2022 by LagartijaJohn
What's offensive about Shadow Warrior II? I thought the original was the most offensive and I like that one a lot.
A lot of asinine talk in this thread from the usual suspects. While I'd love to make fun of people for their standard 'they took racism and misogyny out of my game, now where am I gonna get it?!" complaints, that's not even the issue here because the FWH series was never all that bad about that to begin with.

If one wants to complain that SW3's linear level design and DOOM-like combat isn't what they want out of the series then, fair, because after finishing SW3 I went back to the first FWH Shadow Warrior and reminded myself that it's probably the most solid of the series. I enjoyed SW3 for what it was but it's not the direction I would have chosen for the series, and yes, nerfing the swordplay, which was arguably the series' biggest strongpoint, was an odd move.

But this whole "SJW's ruining gaming" thing is just tired and pathetic, and barely even applies to this series which is little more than dick jokes and fart jokes. Myself and my leftwing buds don't give a crap about the games' dumb jokes.

And also the voice acting in the series was never good, why am I seeing people eulogize the voice acting? Is it because you were forced to hear a real-life Asian man in the new game? Because I'm starting to suspect it's because you were forced to hear a real-life Asian man and it tore you up inside. I'd get it if Wang's new actor sounded radically different from the old one, but he doesn't.

Find yourselves a new boogeyman, is what I'm saying. Plenty of legit criticisms to lob at SW3 without resorting to the same old tripe.
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Uberskunk: A lot of asinine talk in this thread from the usual suspects. While I'd love to make fun of people for their standard 'they took racism and misogyny out of my game, now where am I gonna get it?!" complaints, that's not even the issue here because the FWH series was never all that bad about that to begin with.

If one wants to complain that SW3's linear level design and DOOM-like combat isn't what they want out of the series then, fair, because after finishing SW3 I went back to the first FWH Shadow Warrior and reminded myself that it's probably the most solid of the series. I enjoyed SW3 for what it was but it's not the direction I would have chosen for the series, and yes, nerfing the swordplay, which was arguably the series' biggest strongpoint, was an odd move.

But this whole "SJW's ruining gaming" thing is just tired and pathetic, and barely even applies to this series which is little more than dick jokes and fart jokes. Myself and my leftwing buds don't give a crap about the games' dumb jokes.

And also the voice acting in the series was never good, why am I seeing people eulogize the voice acting? Is it because you were forced to hear a real-life Asian man in the new game? Because I'm starting to suspect it's because you were forced to hear a real-life Asian man and it tore you up inside. I'd get it if Wang's new actor sounded radically different from the old one, but he doesn't.

Find yourselves a new boogeyman, is what I'm saying. Plenty of legit criticisms to lob at SW3 without resorting to the same old tripe.
You are the projector here as the devs and studio themselves literally stated they didn't choice a Asian Actor on merit factored in all that mattered was he was the same race and heres the thing that mindset is the far left thinking not the regular left members that are sane.. if you'd get out of your bubble and look at the insane screeching of the extremest left that has became what amount to the ''public face of the left''you'd see the issue and why many label the mindset the VA was changed as a Leftist and SJW matter .. Thats because self proclaimed Leftists and self proclaimed SJWS are not just the ones who screech about it be openly flaunt about being such in All entertainment media usually with the same talking pionts that about 15 or so years ago would have been branded by the same folks as bigoted talking pionts and ''gatekeeping..

Also the problem here is canonly speaking despite casting by race and not talent they still got the wrong Asain race for Lo Wang thus it gives off a worse''we just did this to look good'' and also a ''All people of the far east look and sound the same to us'' vibe that .. if they literally would have just said'' we are changing the va '' or even not said it .. let alone not released a 15 minute gameplay trailer with the old VA this wouldn't be a problem and most would not care but they word for word used the legit same extremist left and now stereotypical SJW phrasing aswell as reasoning why they changed vas rather then be smart about it

(Edit in for the record I am more so in the center rather then one side or the other

Edited in again not attacking you personally but getting harsh in my statements for you literally seemed to be combactive in your phrasing and miss the bigger reason why stuff gets labeled as specific mindsets ruining something when its easy to find
Post edited March 10, 2022 by BanditKeith2
Getting an actor that's Asian shouldn't be necessary since it's voice acting. It's acting. Any voice actor can try to talk like an Asian. You're never going to see the actor. Lo Wang had huge tattoos. Is the voice actor also covered with tattoos? What's going on here?
Post edited March 11, 2022 by DoomSooth
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DoomSooth: Getting an actor that's Asian shouldn't be necessary since it's voice acting. It's acting. Any voice actor can try to talk like an Asian. You're never going to see the actor. Lo Wang had huge tattoos. Is the voice actor also covered with tattoos? What's going on here?
In general, I don't think this is necessary (Unless of course the character's ethnic/cultural background is a major element to the character/plot then, perhaps. Shadow Warrior does specifically theme itself on Asian culture but not in a particularly accurate or meaningful way so it doesn't seem as important). I just also don't think it's this massive upheaval of what the games are all about as it's being presented. I personally don't think they would have received any backlash had they kept the original actor and I don't think they needed to change him, and I'd honestly be willing to give the complaints more benefit of the doubt if we weren't talking about a community who claims a game is political whenever a female character is wearing long sleeves.
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DoomSooth: Getting an actor that's Asian shouldn't be necessary since it's voice acting. It's acting. Any voice actor can try to talk like an Asian. You're never going to see the actor. Lo Wang had huge tattoos. Is the voice actor also covered with tattoos? What's going on here?
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Uberskunk: In general, I don't think this is necessary (Unless of course the character's ethnic/cultural background is a major element to the character/plot then, perhaps. Shadow Warrior does specifically theme itself on Asian culture but not in a particularly accurate or meaningful way so it doesn't seem as important). I just also don't think it's this massive upheaval of what the games are all about as it's being presented. I personally don't think they would have received any backlash had they kept the original actor and I don't think they needed to change him, and I'd honestly be willing to give the complaints more benefit of the doubt if we weren't talking about a community who claims a game is political whenever a female character is wearing long sleeves.
You do realize its the extreme lefists that caused the reaction of as you put it '' if we weren't talking about a community who claims a game is political whenever a female character is wearing long sleeves.'' because of extremist left people in media who has a axe to grind and openly political and the like in the industry with them being double standard wise in the reasons givem on such factors don't you? Its a natural affect when too many on one side does something for a specific reason .. others who are well aware of it will start to legit look into why changes are done in general finding a after a whille''9 times out of 10'' the reason they assumed

So you should understand the factors on why people are after this and jump to saying''this was done for this or that reason''
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Uberskunk: In general, I don't think this is necessary (Unless of course the character's ethnic/cultural background is a major element to the character/plot then, perhaps. Shadow Warrior does specifically theme itself on Asian culture but not in a particularly accurate or meaningful way so it doesn't seem as important). I just also don't think it's this massive upheaval of what the games are all about as it's being presented. I personally don't think they would have received any backlash had they kept the original actor and I don't think they needed to change him, and I'd honestly be willing to give the complaints more benefit of the doubt if we weren't talking about a community who claims a game is political whenever a female character is wearing long sleeves.
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BanditKeith2: You do realize its the extreme lefists that caused the reaction of as you put it '' if we weren't talking about a community who claims a game is political whenever a female character is wearing long sleeves.'' because of extremist left people in media who has a axe to grind and openly political and the like in the industry with them being double standard wise in the reasons givem on such factors don't you? Its a natural affect when too many on one side does something for a specific reason .. others who are well aware of it will start to legit look into why changes are done in general finding a after a whille''9 times out of 10'' the reason they assumed

So you should understand the factors on why people are after this and jump to saying''this was done for this or that reason''
Sure you don't wanna throw Soros in there somewhere while you're at it?
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BanditKeith2: You do realize its the extreme lefists that caused the reaction of as you put it '' if we weren't talking about a community who claims a game is political whenever a female character is wearing long sleeves.'' because of extremist left people in media who has a axe to grind and openly political and the like in the industry with them being double standard wise in the reasons givem on such factors don't you? Its a natural affect when too many on one side does something for a specific reason .. others who are well aware of it will start to legit look into why changes are done in general finding a after a whille''9 times out of 10'' the reason they assumed

So you should understand the factors on why people are after this and jump to saying''this was done for this or that reason''
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Uberskunk: Sure you don't wanna throw Soros in there somewhere while you're at it?
Don't get into''whataboutisms''here if thats your attempt in mentioning him as I am against that goon aswell .. For I am against basically all the BS going on.. For the record I said basically all the BS going on as I don't know all the BS going on but what I am aware of I am against ..
Haven't played it yet (because GOG doesn't want people to buy the Deluxe Edition for whatever reason) but from the gameplay I've seen so far it looks like FWH finally made the gunplay actually good and fun this time which would be the first time in the whole reboot series. I don't mind that it's mostly a Doom Eternal clone because that game is one of the best AAA fps games relased in the last couple years and FWH seems to have copied the combat loop well enough at least. I'm sure I wouldn't have a bad time with this game.
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Berzerk2k2: Haven't played it yet (because GOG doesn't want people to buy the Deluxe Edition for whatever reason) but from the gameplay I've seen so far it looks like FWH finally made the gunplay actually good and fun this time which would be the first time in the whole reboot series. I don't mind that it's mostly a Doom Eternal clone because that game is one of the best AAA fps games relased in the last couple years and FWH seems to have copied the combat loop well enough at least. I'm sure I wouldn't have a bad time with this game.
Having played all 3 games, I can say with confidence that the gunplay/combat is probably SW3's biggest strength, and the one advantage it has over its predecessors (well that and, the enemies feel the most distinct in SW3). Even though I prefer the previous two games, FWH always had a way of making guns feel kind of weak and underwhelming to use in those. Most people seem to agree that it's just as well, as the melee weapons are where the party's at in those games, and they're right, but that's a point I'll give to SW3 for sure, the guns and shooting feel much better. On the flip side of that, they seem to have kind of nerfed the sword play to some extent, making the sword a constant side-arm instead of an individual weapon, and while it does have obtainable special moves like the previous games, they're kind of more awkward to trigger and I found myself rarely interested in trying to use them. Plus, the sword being the right-click weapon at all times means that alternate firing modes are gone. It's also the smallest arsenal of the series, though that didn't bother me a ton since I don't tend to have more than 2 or 3 weapons or so that I use regularly in a given shooter.

The drawback to being a DOOM Eternal clone however is, if you enjoyed the exploration element of the first two games, there's none of that to be found here. The first FWH Shadow Warrior was mostly linear but did have a layout that allowed for some exploring and secret hunting. SW3 does have a few 'secrets' but they're never far from the main path, which is so linear that it's practically on rails. Even the modern DOOM games have more fleshed out exploration than SW3. But if you're into DOOM's combat then for sure, this is probably the closest approximation of it that you're gonna get without playing DOOM itself.